Best private schools in NYC?

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Anonymous wrote:Over night it’s become conspiracy theorists and unhinged super-aggro weirdos saying columbia is a diploma mill? Seriously?

Among the figures that go into these subscores, the most heavily weighted are graduation rates. U.S. News tells us that (a) 96% of Columbia undergraduates graduate in six years or less, and that (b) the same is true of 95% of undergraduates who held a Pell grant (a government subsidy for needy students) and (c) of 97% of those who did not. Fully 22.6% of the weight in the entire U.S. News ranking rests on these three figures alone. Clearly, U.S. News regards graduation rates as highly representative of the overall quality of a university.

One might be tempted to infer that Columbia is structurally similar to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton and has succeeded in competing with them on their own terms. This is far from being true, however. Columbia is profoundly different from its rivals in that it enrolls an enormous number of transfer students, who are not included in the figures above.

Columbia reported to the government that in Fall 2020, over 30% of its incoming undergraduates were transfer students. This is a larger proportion than at any other Tier I private university (see chart).33 Transfer students at Columbia are mostly enrolled in the School of General Studies, where more than 75% of all students arrive with some transfer credit, but the School of Engineering’s 3-2 Combined Plan may also contribute significant numbers of transfer students.

Link:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/16/columbia-whistleblower-us-news-rankings-michael-thaddeus

https://www.math.columbia.edu/~thaddeus/ranking/investigation.html

People also look down at Barnard which is an integral part of Columbia.
I can't understand why. Just because it's a women's college?

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Dalton mom - are you a URM? What is a typical stanford binet question they use and is sibling admission more of a formality or they are cut throat about that too?

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Are parents on this board prioritizing Dalton because it seems like it is a bit less academic than Trinity, Horace Mann and Brearley but still has comparable exmissions?

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Anonymous wrote:Are parents on this board prioritizing Dalton because it seems like it is a bit less academic than Trinity, Horace Mann and Brearley but still has comparable exmissions?

Dalton is not less academic.

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Anonymous wrote:Are parents on this board prioritizing Dalton because it seems like it is a bit less academic than Trinity, Horace Mann and Brearley but still has comparable exmissions?

Dalton is not less academic.

Besides the college matriculation, what is desirable about dalton for those on this board!

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It's not a matter of less or more academic. All have rigorous and challenging academics. It's more about pedagogy and teaching philosophy. Dalton tends to be more progressive in its pedagogy, while Trinity and Brearley and Horace Mann (as I understand it) tend to be more traditional. Think half-circle classroom seating vs. rows and columns as a simplistic example.

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Besides the college matriculation, what is desirable about dalton for those on this board!

They tend to be the most progressive and inclusive TT private school. It is noticeable when it comes to seeing how the class is curated across demographics (gender, race, relgiion, etc...). When I watched the documentary American Promise, I was surprised how open they were about their issues with educating URM and how they have come to make improvements over time.

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Which other TT are like Dalton? Is Dalton unique among TT?

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I think every school has its own unique culture and they are all pretty personalized to each student. I don’t think any school has rows of desks anymore, my daughter went on a shadow day at sacred heart which is considered pretty traditional and they even have classrooms organized in a semi circle now.

Dalton feels appealing because they do seem most progressive and assign less homework than some of the other TT.

I like Dalton, Riverdale and Chapin because they suited my very different children’s learning styles. And yes I have students at all three schools, and they were all our first choices before someone comes at me! I am sure you can have well-balanced students at all schools, it depends on your child’s personality and temperament.

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Anonymous wrote:Which other TT are like Dalton? Is Dalton unique among TT?

I have no connection to it, but St. Ann’s is supposedly more progressive than Dalton, which I do know well. Dalton’s tends towards individual learning, more self-instruction so students can follow the things they’re interested in more closely, which isn’t to say it sacrifices other subjects.

Personally, if I could go back, I think I would have chosen Dalton over Trinity (where I went until sophomore year when I transferred to Andover). I may have stayed in NYC for high school. Trinity is far more traditional in terms of curriculum requirements, but to say that Dalton is easier is untrue. Once high school starts, they’re both pressure cookers, just in different ways. My siblings got spectacular attention and Dalton - they truly nurtured and supported their passions and they loved it there. My brother’s son starts kindergarten there next year.

If you do exceptionally well in either school - incredibly difficult given the sheer quality of students - odds literally are you’ll get into a t-15 school.

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Do you all think we will crack the $75k tuition a year level in the next 5 years? I don’t know how this is sustainable. What do you think is the amount of yearly income a family would need to sustain 2 kids in private school?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think we will crack the $75k tuition a year level in the next 5 years? I don’t know how this is sustainable. What do you think is the amount of yearly income a family would need to sustain 2 kids in private school?

It seems certain that tuition will continue to increase as the value of the dollar continues to be devalued.

It is less about income and more about intergenerational wealth. The relevance of the private school scene for working professionals will continue to decline as less families are able to afford it. The popularity seems to have peaked with the rise and fall of urbanbaby.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think we will crack the $75k tuition a year level in the next 5 years? I don’t know how this is sustainable. What do you think is the amount of yearly income a family would need to sustain 2 kids in private school?

It seems certain that tuition will continue to increase as the value of the dollar continues to be devalued.

It is less about income and more about intergenerational wealth. The relevance of the private school scene for working professionals will continue to decline as less families are able to afford it. The popularity seems to have peaked with the rise and fall of urbanbaby.

In many NYC circles, private schools seem as popular as ever. The ballooning price tag is concerning. I have three kids in NYC private schools..

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all think we will crack the $75k tuition a year level in the next 5 years? I don’t know how this is sustainable. What do you think is the amount of yearly income a family would need to sustain 2 kids in private school?

It seems certain that tuition will continue to increase as the value of the dollar continues to be devalued.

It is less about income and more about intergenerational wealth. The relevance of the private school scene for working professionals will continue to decline as less families are able to afford it. The popularity seems to have peaked with the rise and fall of urbanbaby.

In many NYC circles, private schools seem as popular as ever. The ballooning price tag is concerning. I have three kids in NYC private schools..

Are you able to get any financial aid with 3 kids in school?

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Can’t find the quote, but whoever said the kids coming in at 6th or 9th aren’t getting into top colleges has it backwards.

These schools bring in ringers in 9th. Not siblings, not because of mom and dad. They bring in the start students, the d1 athletes and many URM kids already vetted by prep for prep, teak, Oliver’s etc (to backfill the seats that are emptied around 6th when the school counseled out the URM they took in k that didn’t work out). It’s always about what’s good for the school.

A shout out for Regis who holds its own in the crazy world with some but far fewer legacy, connected and hooked. If I had a boy and was catholic, that would be top of my list.