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I'm so angry with my Dad-he's Republican
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Big Shocker-I was having a discussion with my dad-who lives in NJ-about McCain and his choice for VP. I then brought up her pregnant daughter-commenting about her stance on "abstinence only". He came back and said "her daughter made the right decision to have the baby and marry the guy". I almost threw up and hung up!!!
When I was in college-I was stupid and got pregnant. I told my dad I was pregnant, who then said-verbatim "I'm sending you $300 dollars and YOU KNOW what to do with it". I had a termination (and don't regret it-I was very young). The hypocrisy! |
Anonymous
| Sounds rough! I'm sure it hurts. Wish I had some good advice for you. All I can say is I hope it gets better! |
Anonymous
| My jaw just dropped. So sorry to hear about this OP. To paraphrase Obama, Bristol's pregnancy is irrelevant and none of your dad's damn business. |
Anonymous
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OP here. I'm not affected by heat of our conversation but by the fact that he's a hypocrit. I'll probably talk to him later this week-but will definitely not discuss politics!
BTW-he feels the economy is great and there were weapons of mass destruction to justify the Iraqi war. |
Anonymous
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I don't comprehend the hypocrisy of this whole right wing, no-sex before marriage creed and then they're all running to extol the 17 yo for getting knocked up as a teen. I knew middle Americans were dim, but good grief.
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Anonymous
| I'd be angry too - especially since he should be "on your side" and his comment seems to tacitly condemn your choice that he was in favor of when it affected his family. I hope you are able to mend the rift with your dad but just wanted to tell you I'd be really mad at him too! |
Anonymous
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Op, politics aside- I think that you should have a talk with your dad. I think it is fair to ask him to explain how he would reconcile his advice from your college days with his views re Palin's daughter. He may have changed his views, may have just made a politically expedient statement or he may have chosed to forget that you were once in the same position as Palin's daughter.
Good luck, |
Anonymous
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I recently found myself in two very heated discussions with hardcore pro-lifers who are republicans. we discussed literally for days throwing in scenarios, but they would not walk away from their stands. Then, these "friends" both independently admitted to me that they had become pro-lifers after having had an abortion. My jaw dropped, I couldn't believe how they felt it was fine to make a choice for themselves but then to take it away from other women.
I mean, when I heard it from one, I was thinking: hey, it's just a single occasion. When the other one said the SAME thing, I couldn't help but to wonder if there are more pro-lifers out there who once made a choice and are now fighting so hard to have it taken away for other women. It disgusted me, needless to say we have not spoken since. |
Anonymous
| oh and btw, I have absolutely no issue with them being pro-life for themselves after the experience. But I think that once you did what you judge other people for so hard, you lose your credibility and integrity. |
Anonymous
Interesting! Reminds me of closeted gays who are stridently anti-gay rights! |
Anonymous
If your think about it, this actually makes some sense. It is probably a combination of guilt and shelfishness that created the "new" stance- two emotions that are very common in human being. A person who chose an abortion and was comfortable with the choice would likely no want to restrict others. On the other hand for a woman who is living with extreme guilt taking a hard line on the issue is probably an effective way to compensate for their feelings. BTW, I think that this also explains the actions of the gay, gaybashers. |
Anonymous
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It makes "sense" in regards to why they would never make the same choice again, yes. And I can respect that all the way, I actually think it is healthy, after all nobody is very fond of the idea of abortion as birth control. But the fact that you once MADE that choice and are now condemning everyone who does the same by calling them murderers etc. is extremely hypocritical to me. And I cannot stand that. It makes everything you have to say to the issue invalid to me.
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Rich
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It works the opposite way also. I have always been pro-choice, but when my first wife and I got married (she was still a teen-ager), she got pregnant immediately -- it was pure luck that it was after the wedding. Anyway, despite being politically pro-choice, we were both rather shocked when her mother suggested an abortion. We had the baby and the marriage broke up four years later. I would definitely counsel a couple in that situation to consider the abortion that we were not willing to choose. So I can understand those women feeling they'd like to advise the world "Don't do as I did." However, advising and forcing are very different. |
Anonymous
| OP do you think that your dad may have regrets about the way he handled things with you? Maybe now that time has passed, he sees that he should have, or would like to have, handled things differently. Maybe it isn't hypocrisy, and he sees things differently now. |
Anonymous
Rich, I know that there is no way to prove this, but I wonder if you would have become pro-life if you did not have the baby, the marriage ended anyway and you blame the abortion for the end of the relationship. BTW, I hope that by "teenager" you meant that your ex-wife was 18 or 19. |