Physical Dominance in Youth Soccer: Do Boys Get the Same Feedback as Girls?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Leave the club. What kind of example are you setting for your daughter by letting the patriarchy hold her back?

I need attention mommy, look at me, I'm posting a topically unrelated clickbait fueled argument on an anonymous message forum!
-Got news for ya, female coaches would hold her back just the same. We have a physically dominant player on our DDs second team and she can't keep up w the 1st team on technical ability and speed of play. Female coaches holding her back too.

Ever heard of sarcasm? Yeesh.

I welcome sarcasm! Missed that part of it

[Anonymous]

I have a male athlete and don't feel they get constructive feedback to help them develop. Many club coaches are not trained to give that kind of feedback. That rather loose the player(s) than give honest feedback to help the player develop imo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:competitiveness and aggressiveness is a talent, which’s hard yo teach. Your daughter has a very high ceiling, but she needs high level technical skills to make it work too. With extra technical training she will be so much better! It’s very worthy to spend time, efforts and money on it!

You can’t say she has very high ceiling. She has not even played on a full field yet.

Also all players have a potential range of every skill. Technical skill is the same. A player that has high technical skill potential will be more technical with 1/2 the work vs a player with lower skill potential. It’s similar to speed. You can develop it but only within a certain range.

If an 11 year old is being told she needs to develop her technical skills it is a huge red flag. The next few years are the selection years. If you are a big physical players with questionable technical skills- hard touch, loses the ball in tight spaces, can’t pass accurately, etc, you will not be ask to do those technical things in practice or games. It is a self reinforcing system.

[Anonymous]

I have a graduated boy who played travel from U9-U19 and a girl currently playing U15.

The boys in general play much more physically than the girls and another thing I have noticed is that refs call games much differently for boys than girls. They let a lot of the physicality play out in the boys games but in the girls games, one player puts another on the ground and they almost always call it.

Maybe your daughter's coaches see her as a liability with that style of play and they want her to be more of a smart tactical player than a physical player to save them from all of the fouls and penalty kicks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a graduated boy who played travel from U9-U19 and a girl currently playing U15.

The boys in general play much more physically than the girls and another thing I have noticed is that refs call games much differently for boys than girls. They let a lot of the physicality play out in the boys games but in the girls games, one player puts another on the ground and they almost always call it.

Maybe your daughter's coaches see her as a liability with that style of play and they want her to be more of a smart tactical player than a physical player to save them from all of the fouls and penalty kicks.

No offense, but what level are we talking about? ECNL (G) is VERY physical and refs lot A LOT go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a graduated boy who played travel from U9-U19 and a girl currently playing U15.

The boys in general play much more physically than the girls and another thing I have noticed is that refs call games much differently for boys than girls. They let a lot of the physicality play out in the boys games but in the girls games, one player puts another on the ground and they almost always call it.

Maybe your daughter's coaches see her as a liability with that style of play and they want her to be more of a smart tactical player than a physical player to save them from all of the fouls and penalty kicks.

No offense, but what level are we talking about? ECNL (G) is VERY physical and refs lot A LOT go.

LOL! Not physical at all compared to the boys side

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a graduated boy who played travel from U9-U19 and a girl currently playing U15.

The boys in general play much more physically than the girls and another thing I have noticed is that refs call games much differently for boys than girls. They let a lot of the physicality play out in the boys games but in the girls games, one player puts another on the ground and they almost always call it.

Maybe your daughter's coaches see her as a liability with that style of play and they want her to be more of a smart tactical player than a physical player to save them from all of the fouls and penalty kicks.

No offense, but what level are we talking about? ECNL (G) is VERY physical and refs lot A LOT go.

LOL! Not physical at all compared to the boys side

Exactly - they might be physical compared to lower level girls teams but the physicality and foul-calling are completely different when comparing boys v girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a graduated boy who played travel from U9-U19 and a girl currently playing U15.

The boys in general play much more physically than the girls and another thing I have noticed is that refs call games much differently for boys than girls. They let a lot of the physicality play out in the boys games but in the girls games, one player puts another on the ground and they almost always call it.

Maybe your daughter's coaches see her as a liability with that style of play and they want her to be more of a smart tactical player than a physical player to save them from all of the fouls and penalty kicks.

No offense, but what level are we talking about? ECNL (G) is VERY physical and refs lot A LOT go.

LOL! Not physical at all compared to the boys side

Exactly - they might be physical compared to lower level girls teams but the physicality and foul-calling are completely different when comparing boys v girls.

We are watching different games. Do you actually have an ECNL level girl & MLS boy near the same age? Refs let a TON of shit go in ECNL (North Atlantic if it matters)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a graduated boy who played travel from U9-U19 and a girl currently playing U15.

The boys in general play much more physically than the girls and another thing I have noticed is that refs call games much differently for boys than girls. They let a lot of the physicality play out in the boys games but in the girls games, one player puts another on the ground and they almost always call it.

Maybe your daughter's coaches see her as a liability with that style of play and they want her to be more of a smart tactical player than a physical player to save them from all of the fouls and penalty kicks.

No offense, but what level are we talking about? ECNL (G) is VERY physical and refs lot A LOT go.

LOL! Not physical at all compared to the boys side

Exactly - they might be physical compared to lower level girls teams but the physicality and foul-calling are completely different when comparing boys v girls.

We are watching different games. Do you actually have an ECNL level girl & MLS boy near the same age? Refs let a TON of shit go in ECNL (North Atlantic if it matters)

Both of mine are in ECNL/ECNL-R and I concur that girls and boys have a much different level of physicality and different tolerance for fouls. I've seen my son get flipped completely off his feet and laid out and the refs make the "play on" signal and my daughter so much as touches another player that goes down and it's an automatic free kick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I should add second part.. for girl parents who have a girl that can dominate in physical direct soccer, what club has developed and embraced that style (while of course working technical skills too) ?

Not a club- older brothers. The only way it can truly be taught, lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a graduated boy who played travel from U9-U19 and a girl currently playing U15.

The boys in general play much more physically than the girls and another thing I have noticed is that refs call games much differently for boys than girls. They let a lot of the physicality play out in the boys games but in the girls games, one player puts another on the ground and they almost always call it.

Maybe your daughter's coaches see her as a liability with that style of play and they want her to be more of a smart tactical player than a physical player to save them from all of the fouls and penalty kicks.

No offense, but what level are we talking about? ECNL (G) is VERY physical and refs lot A LOT go.

LOL! Not physical at all compared to the boys side

Exactly - they might be physical compared to lower level girls teams but the physicality and foul-calling are completely different when comparing boys v girls.

We are watching different games. Do you actually have an ECNL level girl & MLS boy near the same age? Refs let a TON of shit go in ECNL (North Atlantic if it matters)

Both of mine are in ECNL/ECNL-R and I concur that girls and boys have a much different level of physicality and different tolerance for fouls. I've seen my son get flipped completely off his feet and laid out and the refs make the "play on" signal and my daughter so much as touches another player that goes down and it's an automatic free kick.

And I've seen the exact same thing against girls and same play on? Guess NA ECNL lets more go. NJ/PA games are ROUGH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I should add second part.. for girl parents who have a girl that can dominate in physical direct soccer, what club has developed and embraced that style (while of course working technical skills too) ?

Not a club- older brothers. The only way it can truly be taught, lol.

LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I should add second part.. for girl parents who have a girl that can dominate in physical direct soccer, what club has developed and embraced that style (while of course working technical skills too) ?

Not a club- older brothers. The only way it can truly be taught, lol.

+1 This is very true. The girls throwing their weight around, fearlessly have typically been the girls with older brothers who play rough and tumble al the time with them. Our neighbors behind us had a 6 year old girl who had a 7 and 9 year old, older brothers. She is an absolute beast on the field compared to the other girls... she posses physicality that no club could ever hope of teaching.

Also, we know a very physical girl who is 12 that has been doing kick-boxing for years. -Another skill the club could never teach.