Fear of Antisemitism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sorry you are a target, OP.

I am against the government of Israel's current foreign policies. I deplore the indiscriminate way they have destroyed Gaza and now south Lebanon, and how they let criminals among them torture prisoners and kill and steal from Palestinians in the West Bank.

In my view, you are not only a victim of baseline antisemitism that has always existed in many countries. But now, you are additionally a victim of your own criminal government, that ultimately will makes things so much worse in the long-term for Jews all over the world, because of all countries' natural revulsion at its unjustified mass killings of its neighbors in the Middle East.

As your neighbor, I want your wellbeing. Please stay safe, wherever you go.

Hey antisemite, the double loyalty trope is quite old.

[Anonymous]

I am Jewish. Nicholas Kristof is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and columnist who has reported on genocide in Darfur. Did you question his reporting then? I honestly don’t know what to say about the refusal to accept that Israel committed sexual violence against Palestinians in prison. The right wing Israeli government is to blame for fomenting antisemitism with its criminal actions.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are frustrated with Israel for blindly allowing Bibi to do atrocious things. I do not see dislike towards Judaism in particular, just Israel.

Same. I have a big problem with Israel, but no problem with Jews. I wish more Jews would speak up about the atrocities of the Israel government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP - DCUM is not the place for a thoughtful discussion on antisemitism, as demonstrated by the response you received. Assuming that you are not a troll, your concerns are well-founded but, as with most other topics of concern to the Jewish community, this issue cannot be discussed in good faith on DCUM.

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[Anonymous]

I hate Israel. Yes, hate. It should have never been created, and it's a parasite of America, threatening to kill its host with the endless wars we fight for them, and involvement in American politics.

I have nothing but love for Jewish people. The idea that being Jewish has to mean support Israel is a very modern concept. Zionism is what, 150 years old? Judaism is thousands. There is NO reason one must support Israel in order to support the safety and freedom of Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate Israel. Yes, hate. It should have never been created, and it's a parasite of America, threatening to kill its host with the endless wars we fight for them, and involvement in American politics.

I have nothing but love for Jewish people. The idea that being Jewish has to mean support Israel is a very modern concept. Zionism is what, 150 years old? Judaism is thousands. There is NO reason one must support Israel in order to support the safety and freedom of Jews.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am Jewish. Nicholas Kristof is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and columnist who has reported on genocide in Darfur. Did you question his reporting then? I honestly don’t know what to say about the refusal to accept that Israel committed sexual violence against Palestinians in prison. The right wing Israeli government is to blame for fomenting antisemitism with its criminal actions.

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[Anonymous]

I think American Jews need to separate themselves from Israel. We have a serious problem when a Jewish billionaire from Ohio trie to oust Massie because of his involvement in releasing Epstein files and his anti Israel views. Why is that person inserting themselves other than having more loyalty to a foreign country. You don't see Russian Americans or Mexican Americans displaying that behavior.

I am not antisemitic, however, I like many Americans,believe that our relationship with Israel only hurts us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think American Jews need to separate themselves from Israel. We have a serious problem when a Jewish billionaire from Ohio trie to oust Massie because of his involvement in releasing Epstein files and his anti Israel views. Why is that person inserting themselves other than having more loyalty to a foreign country. You don't see Russian Americans or Mexican Americans displaying that behavior.

I am not antisemitic, however, I like many Americans,believe that our relationship with Israel only hurts us.

Very true. Although people will still call you antisemitic to continue to silence critics of Israel.

[Anonymous]

OP is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am Jewish and fearful of the growing antisemitism in the US and Europe especially. The NYT article was painful to read as I've always loved the NYT -- https://www.wsj.com/opinion/free-expression/kristofs-unbelievable-tale-d9d7b6ff -- I am not only afraid for my Jewish children and neighbors, but because I know what comes next. When we, as a society, pool an entire group of people as one issue, it doesn't stop with Jews -- that's just the place it starts. How can, after decades of fighting discrimination and stereotyping, have the NYT -- a well-respected paper -- write something so hateful without investigating and learning and visiting? Where is it safe to be Jewish? Is Israel the only place?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Yup, as the racists in these comments prove, hate and weaponized ignorance are on the rise against Jews, women, and other traditional scapegoats. The irony is that in the long-term this bigotry creates more Zionists. Lean into community, have frank discussions with your kids about these and other dark times in Jewish/American history, bear witness and hold the bigots accountable, that’s all you can do, really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Jewish and fearful of the growing antisemitism in the US and Europe especially. The NYT article was painful to read as I've always loved the NYT -- https://www.wsj.com/opinion/free-expression/kristofs-unbelievable-tale-d9d7b6ff -- I am not only afraid for my Jewish children and neighbors, but because I know what comes next. When we, as a society, pool an entire group of people as one issue, it doesn't stop with Jews -- that's just the place it starts. How can, after decades of fighting discrimination and stereotyping, have the NYT -- a well-respected paper -- write something so hateful without investigating and learning and visiting? Where is it safe to be Jewish? Is Israel the only place?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Yup, as the racists in these comments prove, hate and weaponized ignorance are on the rise against Jews, women, and other traditional scapegoats. The irony is that in the long-term this bigotry creates more Zionists. Lean into community, have frank discussions with your kids about these and other dark times in Jewish/American history, bear witness and hold the bigots accountable, that’s all you can do, really.

There will always be many more people who are not Zionists than actual Zionists in the world. Zionists are not welcome in many parts of the world now. But continue to wallow in your victim hood - no one cares!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am Jewish. Nicholas Kristof is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and columnist who has reported on genocide in Darfur. Did you question his reporting then? I honestly don’t know what to say about the refusal to accept that Israel committed sexual violence against Palestinians in prison. The right wing Israeli government is to blame for fomenting antisemitism with its criminal actions.

I’ve always questioned his reporting. He has obvious biases, if you’ve ready any of his articles. Pulitzer Prizes mean nothing to me, because I don’t respect the system that awards it. There are lots of great journalists who have no opportunity to win that prize.