Concern of how the Elementary Study will affect Fields Road

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Anonymous wrote:If Cold Spring winds up assigned to a third middle school and high school within the span of a decade (CJMS/Wootton then Hoover/Churchill then JWMS/RM) they have every right to be big mad.

I bet they’d just send all of new Ritchie Park (incl Cold Spring) to Hoover and then RM.

Another reason that they should move Stone Mill back to CJMS. No one needs Hoover with a 3 way split (Wootton, Churchill, and then RM.)

Actually what should be lobbied for is getting Frost MS to get to use current Wootton building as a holding school, then rebuild Frost as a larger building that can house all of Wootton. Then, send Ritchie Park (incl. the Cold Spring people) to Hoover so that it doesn't become under enrolled and perhaps some Whitman ES to Cabin John to not have Pyle be over-crowded.

Cabin John and Hoover are honestly way far for both Stone Mill and Travilah.

I mean, sure, if only a couple hundred million appeared from thin air.

The idea also makes too much sense, so of course BOE would never

They will need to close at least one current middle school due to severe underenrollment. Where is the sense in investing millions to expand another?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will pay million of dollars for the elementary boundary study and at the last moment go with Option X. There is no reason to try to figure out what Hurricane Taylor and the eight horseman of the Apocalypse will do. You will not be able to predict it.

Wait, I can. Don’t they…bring the apocalypse? I guess it would be pretty surprising if Famine showed up and was like “I will rain down 4 mile bus rides upon all of you!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone,

Writing here because I’d like everyone’s thoughts. I’ve seen a lot of fear-mongering about Fields Road recently, with people suggesting it’s going to bring down the quality of Wootton @ Crown.

I’m writing here now with somewhat of the opposite concern: my worry is that following the next Elementary School study Fields Road could become essentially gentrified and sections of it that are currently less affluent could be reassigned to Summit Hall or another Gaithersburg High ES feeder.

Here’s my reasoning:

Fields Road is already over-crowded, but once Downtown Crown is removed from the Rosemont island, part of it will likely have to move into Fields Road. If that’s the case, they might have to move out the families that live north of Fields Road ES along Muddy Branch Road to make room for newcomers. This is even more likely to be the case if they decide to close to DuFief, as that will require redistricting of DuFief’s current area to a split between Stone Mill, Rachel Carson, and Travilah, which would take up any available space to move Downtown Crown people to Stone Mill as opposed to Fields Road. Lakewood will also not have room if they’re taking on people from Fallsgrove as many think will be the case.

Additional to this is that removing Downtown Crown from Rosemont is going to put pressure to increase the cachement area of Gaithersburg HS elementary schools to keep them open.

And I know some believe some new elementary school is about to be built on Key West Ave but that’s not in the CIP right now so don’t think that’s an out here.

My concern about this has increased seeing how casual and confident MCPS was in screwing over Brown Station last minute. They’re currently acting like Wootton @ Crown is some redistribution - esque event, but with this next study I wonder if they’re just going to essentially find the way of making it revert to being pretty much demographically analogous to how Wootton is now.

It’s also been interesting to me to see that, for all the talk of Wootton housing values dropping, there hasn’t been nearly as much around FRES housing prices rising. Curious to what extent FRES neighborhoods include subsidized housing where there might be some stability and to what extent it might also be gentrifying the old fashioned way, not from boundary reassessments (or at least not solely - I hear you on Brown Station) but from lower income families getting priced out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone,

Writing here because I’d like everyone’s thoughts. I’ve seen a lot of fear-mongering about Fields Road recently, with people suggesting it’s going to bring down the quality of Wootton @ Crown.

I’m writing here now with somewhat of the opposite concern: my worry is that following the next Elementary School study Fields Road could become essentially gentrified and sections of it that are currently less affluent could be reassigned to Summit Hall or another Gaithersburg High ES feeder.

Here’s my reasoning:

Fields Road is already over-crowded, but once Downtown Crown is removed from the Rosemont island, part of it will likely have to move into Fields Road. If that’s the case, they might have to move out the families that live north of Fields Road ES along Muddy Branch Road to make room for newcomers. This is even more likely to be the case if they decide to close to DuFief, as that will require redistricting of DuFief’s current area to a split between Stone Mill, Rachel Carson, and Travilah, which would take up any available space to move Downtown Crown people to Stone Mill as opposed to Fields Road. Lakewood will also not have room if they’re taking on people from Fallsgrove as many think will be the case.

Additional to this is that removing Downtown Crown from Rosemont is going to put pressure to increase the cachement area of Gaithersburg HS elementary schools to keep them open.

And I know some believe some new elementary school is about to be built on Key West Ave but that’s not in the CIP right now so don’t think that’s an out here.

My concern about this has increased seeing how casual and confident MCPS was in screwing over Brown Station last minute. They’re currently acting like Wootton @ Crown is some redistribution - esque event, but with this next study I wonder if they’re just going to essentially find the way of making it revert to being pretty much demographically analogous to how Wootton is now.

It’s also been interesting to me to see that, for all the talk of Wootton housing values dropping, there hasn’t been nearly as much around FRES housing prices rising. Curious to what extent FRES neighborhoods include subsidized housing where there might be some stability and to what extent it might also be gentrifying the old fashioned way, not from boundary reassessments (or at least not solely - I hear you on Brown Station) but from lower income families getting priced out.

It's a great question and I think the concern there is real. I do believe there are a good deal of renting families on the north end of the FRES district, so that could absolutely become a problem if landlords begin responding to that. Washingtonian Woods is almost sure to become a great deal pricier with this change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

I agree with this but someone has to be pushed out right? Fallsgrove at Crown would put the school over capacity no, especially with RM IB ending and more Wootton kids going back to their home school. I think this is why Dufief is moving to QO?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

I agree with this but someone has to be pushed out right? Fallsgrove at Crown would put the school over capacity no, especially with RM IB ending and more Wootton kids going back to their home school. I think this is why Dufief is moving to QO?

Exactly. For Fallsgrove to move into Wootton, DuFief and/or the northern portions of Fields Road would have to be moved out (to QO and GHS respectively). Additionally, the southern portion of Washington Grove (ie King Farm) would need to move into College Gardens and RM.


This would probably make the most sense but we’ll see if the county really wants to fight 20 communities at once.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

I agree with this but someone has to be pushed out right? Fallsgrove at Crown would put the school over capacity no, especially with RM IB ending and more Wootton kids going back to their home school. I think this is why Dufief is moving to QO?

Exactly. For Fallsgrove to move into Wootton, DuFief and/or the northern portions of Fields Road would have to be moved out (to QO and GHS respectively). Additionally, the southern portion of Washington Grove (ie King Farm) would need to move into College Gardens and RM.


This would probably make the most sense but we’ll see if the county really wants to fight 20 communities at once.

This is exactly why they will do it. MCPS loves to fight with communities while gaslighting them and telling them this is public engagement, as if these decisions on es/ms boundaries aren’t already made.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

I agree with this but someone has to be pushed out right? Fallsgrove at Crown would put the school over capacity no, especially with RM IB ending and more Wootton kids going back to their home school. I think this is why Dufief is moving to QO?

Exactly. For Fallsgrove to move into Wootton, DuFief and/or the northern portions of Fields Road would have to be moved out (to QO and GHS respectively). Additionally, the southern portion of Washington Grove (ie King Farm) would need to move into College Gardens and RM.


This would probably make the most sense but we’ll see if the county really wants to fight 20 communities at once.

Fallsgrove isn’t even an entire ES? How many kids is that from RP? Crown has available capacity still. Don’t think anyone is moving out of it since they just determined the new zone with the boundary decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

I agree with this but someone has to be pushed out right? Fallsgrove at Crown would put the school over capacity no, especially with RM IB ending and more Wootton kids going back to their home school. I think this is why Dufief is moving to QO?

Exactly. For Fallsgrove to move into Wootton, DuFief and/or the northern portions of Fields Road would have to be moved out (to QO and GHS respectively). Additionally, the southern portion of Washington Grove (ie King Farm) would need to move into College Gardens and RM.


This would probably make the most sense but we’ll see if the county really wants to fight 20 communities at once.

Fallsgrove isn’t even an entire ES? How many kids is that from RP? Crown has available capacity still. Don’t think anyone is moving out of it since they just determined the new zone with the boundary decision.

Roughly 30 kids per grade in ES

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

I agree with this but someone has to be pushed out right? Fallsgrove at Crown would put the school over capacity no, especially with RM IB ending and more Wootton kids going back to their home school. I think this is why Dufief is moving to QO?

Exactly. For Fallsgrove to move into Wootton, DuFief and/or the northern portions of Fields Road would have to be moved out (to QO and GHS respectively). Additionally, the southern portion of Washington Grove (ie King Farm) would need to move into College Gardens and RM.


This would probably make the most sense but we’ll see if the county really wants to fight 20 communities at once.

Fallsgrove isn’t even an entire ES? How many kids is that from RP? Crown has available capacity still. Don’t think anyone is moving out of it since they just determined the new zone with the boundary decision.

Roughly 30 kids per grade in ES

So 120 kids that would need to fit into another ES if they actually wanted to resolve that island. Lots of musical chairs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Cold spring will move to RPES and to RM. it will stay in Potomac, maybe split between Beverly farm and wayside, both have rooms for more students. It is assigned to Churchill for this round. I think it will remain that way.

I see where you are coming from but Ritchie Park is about to lose the entire Fallsmead island and can't retain enough students to stay open if it does not absorb at least a significant portion of a neighboring school. In this case, Cold Spring is the most logical one.

What are you talking about? How is RPES losing Fallsmead island?

The person almost certainly meant the Fallsgrove island. Which makes sense. That will mean RPES will lose a significant portion of its student body.

One of the goals of the next boundary study is to resolve islands, this one would make a ton of geographical sense. Why does Fallsgrove hop over 2 ES's to get to RPES and then cross over 270 to get to JWMS and RM. Much of that neighborhood is under 2 miles to Crown which means they could be in the walk zone.

Agreed. And I know Fallsgrove was being sent to Crown (or HS 27 @ Crown) in a couple of the initial options 1-4 so the county clearly notes the geographic proximity. The ES study would be the perfect time to resolve this.

I agree with this but someone has to be pushed out right? Fallsgrove at Crown would put the school over capacity no, especially with RM IB ending and more Wootton kids going back to their home school. I think this is why Dufief is moving to QO?

LOL who told you Dufief is moving to QO?