Egress window requirement question

Anonymous
We redid our basement a few years ago after a flood, just new floors and drywall/paint. They said we had to have an egress, and they built stairs into one of the windows wells, nbd and didn't cost a fortune
Anonymous
IleanaSchinder wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This comes up when you sell your house and want to list a room as a bedroom. For example, we just sold a house. We had a large room in the basement with a big walk-in closet and a really nice bathroom adjacent. It did not have egress, and our real estate agent wanted us to change the window so that it did, so that she could market the house as a four bedroom house instead of a three bedroom. We didn’t bother to do it, and the house sold right away above list anyway. But that’s why you would concern yourself with egress. Or, if you are actually going to use a room as a bedroom, you don’t want to be caught sleeping in a fire in a room without a way out.


Let me clarify, closets are NOT a bedroom requirement. Somehow, this is an urban myth.
To be considered a bedroom, you need all of the following (no more, no less)
-70 Square feet, 7'-0" minimum on one side.
-Outlets and lighting
-Fixed heating equiment. I.e.: electric baseboard (cooling is not a requirement)
-Egress window and/or door
-Window for air and light
-Smoke detector (hard wired or battery, depending on the jurisdiction)
-Not be a pass-thru room to egress from/to other spaces

I hope this helps,
ileana schinder


Nobody said it was, "ileana."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
IleanaSchinder wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This comes up when you sell your house and want to list a room as a bedroom. For example, we just sold a house. We had a large room in the basement with a big walk-in closet and a really nice bathroom adjacent. It did not have egress, and our real estate agent wanted us to change the window so that it did, so that she could market the house as a four bedroom house instead of a three bedroom. We didn’t bother to do it, and the house sold right away above list anyway. But that’s why you would concern yourself with egress. Or, if you are actually going to use a room as a bedroom, you don’t want to be caught sleeping in a fire in a room without a way out.


Let me clarify, closets are NOT a bedroom requirement. Somehow, this is an urban myth.
To be considered a bedroom, you need all of the following (no more, no less)
-70 Square feet, 7'-0" minimum on one side.
-Outlets and lighting
-Fixed heating equiment. I.e.: electric baseboard (cooling is not a requirement)
-Egress window and/or door
-Window for air and light
-Smoke detector (hard wired or battery, depending on the jurisdiction)
-Not be a pass-thru room to egress from/to other spaces

I hope this helps,
ileana schinder


Nobody said it was, "ileana."


I know you can't help it but try not to be a jerk.
Anonymous
I didn't mean to be a jerk. In fact, there's a HUGE MYTH about bedrooms and closets.
Should I erase my previous message?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This comes up when you sell your house and want to list a room as a bedroom. For example, we just sold a house. We had a large room in the basement with a big walk-in closet and a really nice bathroom adjacent. It did not have egress, and our real estate agent wanted us to change the window so that it did, so that she could market the house as a four bedroom house instead of a three bedroom. We didn’t bother to do it, and the house sold right away above list anyway. But that’s why you would concern yourself with egress. Or, if you are actually going to use a room as a bedroom, you don’t want to be caught sleeping in a fire in a room without a way out.

I am
Not planning to do bedroom but not sure if I should go without permit as if I pull permit they will make me do degrees which will take 5k -8k .. so I am really confused now.. whom can I reach for code .. county isn’t much helpful


Its worth having it for safety.
Anonymous
Current code says that a basement needs 2 means of egress. One can be the stairs up and the second must be either an egress window or a door to the outside. If there is a bedroom in the basement then the bedroom must have an egress window and that egress window can be considered the second means of egress for the rest of the basement.
Anonymous
I want to section off part of my basement to make a legal bedroom. It would be difficult to put in a new egress window due to a stone retaining wall and the placement of my air conditioner outside. I was thinking to just include the walkout basement's door inside the bedroom walls. This is legal, correct?
Anonymous
You can section off any room you like in your basement and call it an office, exercise room, game room, man cave, etc. no egress required. In order to call it a bedroom it requires: an egress window no more than 44 inches, (42 inches in some places) from the bottom of the window to the floor, a closet, and the room can't share a wall with a furnace on the other side of that wall. If you meet those requirements, you can claim an extra bedroom in the house, pay the increased taxes and likely sell your home a bit more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
IleanaSchinder wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This comes up when you sell your house and want to list a room as a bedroom. For example, we just sold a house. We had a large room in the basement with a big walk-in closet and a really nice bathroom adjacent. It did not have egress, and our real estate agent wanted us to change the window so that it did, so that she could market the house as a four bedroom house instead of a three bedroom. We didn’t bother to do it, and the house sold right away above list anyway. But that’s why you would concern yourself with egress. Or, if you are actually going to use a room as a bedroom, you don’t want to be caught sleeping in a fire in a room without a way out.


Let me clarify, closets are NOT a bedroom requirement. Somehow, this is an urban myth.
To be considered a bedroom, you need all of the following (no more, no less)
-70 Square feet, 7'-0" minimum on one side.
-Outlets and lighting
-Fixed heating equiment. I.e.: electric baseboard (cooling is not a requirement)
-Egress window and/or door
-Window for air and light
-Smoke detector (hard wired or battery, depending on the jurisdiction)
-Not be a pass-thru room to egress from/to other spaces

I hope this helps,
ileana schinder


Nobody said it was, "ileana."
I did. A closet is definitely a requirement in some places. Howard County requires a closet, Baltimore City requires a closet although not in every room.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Current code says that a basement needs 2 means of egress. One can be the stairs up and the second must be either an egress window or a door to the outside. If there is a bedroom in the basement then the bedroom must have an egress window and that egress window can be considered the second means of egress for the rest of the basement.


Architect here. No, basement only needs ONE means of egress only if it has a living space.
For example, if you have a bedroom, the room itself will require a window egress (or door). That same window/door can be considered as the single point of egress for the whole basement.
You do not need two points of egress. In any case, the stairs reaching the ground floor are considered the 2nd point.

I hope this clarifies,
ileana schinder
Anonymous
Basement interior stairs alone will not suffice in Fairfax County. That is only 1 way out.

Interior stairs plus a walk-out basement door is fine. That gives 2 ways out

Interior stairs plus egress window is fine. Gives 2 ways out.

Above even applies to -unfinished- basements in Fairfax County. We were told it is the rule there because so many people later finished the basement without pulling a building permit.

County made us revise our Renovation plans to add the 2nd way out. Learned the hard way.
IleanaSchinder
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Funny, no. Here is the quote how closets are NOT required in Howard County and Baltimore. Simply because they are not a code requirement under IBC/IRC. Here is the long explanation:

Based on Maryland residential building codes and typical local requirements, bedrooms do not strictly require a built-in closet to be considered a legal bedroom, although they are highly expected for resale. While some sources suggest local interpretations in Maryland may vary, the core requirements are a minimum of 70 sq ft, a window for egress, a door, a heat source, and at least 7-foot ceilings.

Key points regarding closets:
No Mandatory Closet Law: The International Residential Code (IRC), followed by most jurisdictions, does not list a closet as a requirement for a bedroom.
Howard County/Baltimore Specifics: In certain areas, some inspectors or lenders may look for a closet, but it is rarely a strict legal requirement in residential building codes. Baltimore City code requires that a dwelling unit (not necessarily every room) has at least one closet for storage, though this does not apply to all single-family homes.
Alternative Solutions: If a room lacks a closet, a wardrobe or armoire is often sufficient to satisfy lender or buyer expectations.


Nobody said it was, "ileana." I did. A closet is definitely a requirement in some places. Howard County requires a closet, Baltimore City requires a closet although not in every room.
IleanaSchinder
Member Offline
Here is the link showing that no, closets are not required in Howard County or Baltimore county.

https://share.google/aimode/G9EAmS6I9pTuX4xkd

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
IleanaSchinder wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This comes up when you sell your house and want to list a room as a bedroom. For example, we just sold a house. We had a large room in the basement with a big walk-in closet and a really nice bathroom adjacent. It did not have egress, and our real estate agent wanted us to change the window so that it did, so that she could market the house as a four bedroom house instead of a three bedroom. We didn’t bother to do it, and the house sold right away above list anyway. But that’s why you would concern yourself with egress. Or, if you are actually going to use a room as a bedroom, you don’t want to be caught sleeping in a fire in a room without a way out.


Let me clarify, closets are NOT a bedroom requirement. Somehow, this is an urban myth.
To be considered a bedroom, you need all of the following (no more, no less)
-70 Square feet, 7'-0" minimum on one side.
-Outlets and lighting
-Fixed heating equiment. I.e.: electric baseboard (cooling is not a requirement)
-Egress window and/or door
-Window for air and light
-Smoke detector (hard wired or battery, depending on the jurisdiction)
-Not be a pass-thru room to egress from/to other spaces

I hope this helps,
ileana schinder


Nobody said it was, "ileana."
I did. A closet is definitely a requirement in some places. Howard County requires a closet, Baltimore City requires a closet although not in every room.
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