Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban split

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even announce it if just separated?

Because he's living separately, which will be obvious soon enough.

I wonder which one will go public with a new significant other first?

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Anonymous wrote:It's almost impossible for a woman to reach menopause and still be an A-lister female lead doing a respectable number of movies.

Nicole Kidman is in a very, very small cohort of these women.

I am not surprised that the rest of her life suffers. Her personal appearance must be her top priority at all times, involving procedures, beauty routines, strict diet and exercise programs. And then she needs to market herself to all the executives out there. And then she needs to keep up with the same memorization and top notch skills she's always had as an actress.

Really, is there time for anything else?

I tend to agree....I think she is enormously ambitious and deeply hungry still professionally, and she's prone to compensating by saying she "has a strong family" "family is everything" , it always felt like such an overcompensation. She loves work and is probably a workaholic and her actions have always spoken to what she values versus ( like all of us) what she and her professional teams say. I have always thought there was likely a big gap between her private self and her persona. This one did not surprise me. She was married to Tom Cruise for over a decade. She knows exquisitely how to use her PR machine. But cracks have shown over the years.....I don't think we'll ever know the true story, just like with Cruise. I think she has a lot of secrets basically.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost impossible for a woman to reach menopause and still be an A-lister female lead doing a respectable number of movies.

Nicole Kidman is in a very, very small cohort of these women.

I am not surprised that the rest of her life suffers. Her personal appearance must be her top priority at all times, involving procedures, beauty routines, strict diet and exercise programs. And then she needs to market herself to all the executives out there. And then she needs to keep up with the same memorization and top notch skills she's always had as an actress.

Really, is there time for anything else?

I tend to agree....I think she is enormously ambitious and deeply hungry still professionally, and she's prone to compensating by saying she "has a strong family" "family is everything" , it always felt like such an overcompensation. She loves work and is probably a workaholic and her actions have always spoken to what she values versus ( like all of us) what she and her professional teams say. I have always thought there was likely a big gap between her private self and her persona. This one did not surprise me. She was married to Tom Cruise for over a decade. She knows exquisitely how to use her PR machine. But cracks have shown over the years.....I don't think we'll ever know the true story, just like with Cruise. I think she has a lot of secrets basically.

PP you replied to. I don't see it so negatively. Would you say an ambitious and very successful man with several past marriages has lots of secrets, is showing cracks and is deeply hungry professionally? I think it's perfectly normal for a very successful celebrity to have a public persona and a different personality in private. They have to, if they want to market themselves optimally.

I find no fault with her at all. I am merely pointing out that women at the top of their professions rarely have everything. We are still living in a world where it's easier for men at the top of their professions to have everything. Because they're never expected to be as involved in their family's life as women are.

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For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed so in love! I’m sad for them.

Well, they performed being in love at least. I always found it OTT, especially at their ages.

Supposedly his decision, and he moved out. There will be salacious speculation, but my guess is they really did grow apart. She works ALL the time, and he's been on tour. I don't know how she even sees her girls, much less spends any meaningful time with him. Last year was probably an especially hard year with her mother's death and awards campaigning. Plus they seem so different. She's type A, he's more chill.

Always possible they could patch things up, but I doubt it.

She has never really seemed into parenting. More of the career type trying to continue looking youthful and beautiful and runway ready.

[Anonymous]

I loved them together! This makes me so sad. Did not see this one coming…..I wonder what happened and why he wanted out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost impossible for a woman to reach menopause and still be an A-lister female lead doing a respectable number of movies.

Nicole Kidman is in a very, very small cohort of these women.

I am not surprised that the rest of her life suffers. Her personal appearance must be her top priority at all times, involving procedures, beauty routines, strict diet and exercise programs. And then she needs to market herself to all the executives out there. And then she needs to keep up with the same memorization and top notch skills she's always had as an actress.

Really, is there time for anything else?

I tend to agree....I think she is enormously ambitious and deeply hungry still professionally, and she's prone to compensating by saying she "has a strong family" "family is everything" , it always felt like such an overcompensation. She loves work and is probably a workaholic and her actions have always spoken to what she values versus ( like all of us) what she and her professional teams say. I have always thought there was likely a big gap between her private self and her persona. This one did not surprise me. She was married to Tom Cruise for over a decade. She knows exquisitely how to use her PR machine. But cracks have shown over the years.....I don't think we'll ever know the true story, just like with Cruise. I think she has a lot of secrets basically.

PP you replied to. I don't see it so negatively. Would you say an ambitious and very successful man with several past marriages has lots of secrets, is showing cracks and is deeply hungry professionally? I think it's perfectly normal for a very successful celebrity to have a public persona and a different personality in private. They have to, if they want to market themselves optimally.

I find no fault with her at all. I am merely pointing out that women at the top of their professions rarely have everything. We are still living in a world where it's easier for men at the top of their professions to have everything. Because they're never expected to be as involved in their family's life as women are.

Yes I would say the same about a deeply hungry professional man who leaned toward workaholiism and then ended up twice divorced I have several in my extended family. (Male cousins). Yes I would say they also may be likely to be entitled and to want to seek to hold power for as long as possible, traits which they certainly have a right to cultivate...but are often antithetical long term to the mutuality and empathy and vulnerability that makes for a healthy long term marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They seemed so in love! I’m sad for them.

Well, they performed being in love at least. I always found it OTT, especially at their ages.

Supposedly his decision, and he moved out. There will be salacious speculation, but my guess is they really did grow apart. She works ALL the time, and he's been on tour. I don't know how she even sees her girls, much less spends any meaningful time with him. Last year was probably an especially hard year with her mother's death and awards campaigning. Plus they seem so different. She's type A, he's more chill.

Always possible they could patch things up, but I doubt it.

She has never really seemed into parenting. More of the career type trying to continue looking youthful and beautiful and runway ready.

I don’t fault her for being professionally ambitious. Seems Keith was the primary, which apparently worked for a long time. But yes pretty hard for both to satisfy their ambitions while being good parents, especially to two girls at a notoriously tough age. They need you more at that age, not less. Nicole clearly feels the pressure of an expiration date tied to aging, very tough I can imagine.

HOWEVER, not all of her projects have been top tier—far from it. She does work constantly, which means she is always away from home. She could have been even a little more selective, and found a better balance. It would have been better for her career, too.

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This is a couple with enormous wealth and two huge careers that require extensive travel and probably two huge egos that are used to getting what they each want. And they have teenage children. Making it work long term was always going to be herculean level difficult.

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Menopause plus teenagers plus losing parents, all on top of trying to preserve A-list status in a deeply ageist industry. I feel for her, I really do. But also agree she works like a maniac, which was not strictly necessary in her line of work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They seemed so in love! I’m sad for them.

Well, they performed being in love at least. I always found it OTT, especially at their ages.

Supposedly his decision, and he moved out. There will be salacious speculation, but my guess is they really did grow apart. She works ALL the time, and he's been on tour. I don't know how she even sees her girls, much less spends any meaningful time with him. Last year was probably an especially hard year with her mother's death and awards campaigning. Plus they seem so different. She's type A, he's more chill.

Always possible they could patch things up, but I doubt it.

She has never really seemed into parenting. More of the career type trying to continue looking youthful and beautiful and runway ready.

I don’t fault her for being professionally ambitious. Seems Keith was the primary, which apparently worked for a long time. But yes pretty hard for both to satisfy their ambitions while being good parents, especially to two girls at a notoriously tough age. They need you more at that age, not less. Nicole clearly feels the pressure of an expiration date tied to aging, very tough I can imagine.

HOWEVER, not all of her projects have been top tier—far from it. She does work constantly, which means she is always away from home. She could have been even a little more selective, and found a better balance. It would have been better for her career, too.

I ageee with all this. She seems to me like a super intense person and workaholic. I think she also subjugated her career in her marriage to Tom and prioritized never doing that again. I can see her being a lot .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, darn. That's so sad.

I was just reading about them yesterday and usually never do.

Why is it sad fool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why even announce it if just separated?

Likely because he wants to start dating and doesn't want to be attacked in the press for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even announce it if just separated?

Because he's living separately, which will be obvious soon enough.

I wonder which one will go public with a new significant other first?

I don't see either of them deputing a new significant other for some time, but it will be hard to hide in Nashville. He'll be photographed coming and going from his new place, so logical to want to get ahead of it.

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Anonymous wrote:They seemed like polar opposites to me from the beginning. Surprised they lasted this long (glad they did).
19 yrs is a lifetime in Hollywood .

Maybe they stuck it out long enough until the kids were flown & grown.

Younger daughter is only 14