Eliminating ultra processed foods per WSJ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For buns, only sub I can think of is to bake your own bread. Quick and easy, IF you have a breadmaker. And with so many going carb free these days, you can probably pick one up free or super cheap

Lunch - leftovers from dinner, or, make big pots of various stew and/or soups over the weekend and take for lunch, or a salad

Snacks - for me it's veggies or fruit

Breakfast - yogurt or cottage cheese

So processed is OK as long as we process it ourselves? Including the flour?

Read this -- it explains unprocessed, minimally processed, processed, and high or ultra processed foods. The latter are the ones to avoid.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-are-ultra-processed-foods-and-are-they-bad-for-our-health-2020010918605

So bread made simply with flour, water, and yeast is processed, but bread can also be ultra processed when nutrients like the germ is removed from the flour, and salt, oil, and chemicals are added to prevent it from going stale. Green beans might be processed by cutting and freezing the beans, but if canned with chemicals, added salt, oil and maybe even sugar then it is ultra processed.

It is way easier to think of it as just eating whole foods vs. trying to understand and categorize every kind of processed food.

Not if it makes you think you can't eat yogurt or hummus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we're thinking of experimenting with eliminating ultra processed foods, as described in the Wall Street Journal.
https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/my-family-went-off-ultra-processed-foods-for-a-month-the-results-surprised-us-ac8015b1?mod=lifestyle_trendingnow_article_pos1

Good idea in general, but DO NOT take anything to heart from the WSJ, as they are incredibly inept and just a propaganda rag. You risk your health listening to them about anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can go animal style and have a bun that's lettuce leaves for your burgers, or you can make your own burger buns. Same with crackers - you can make your own in bulk.

I think cheese with fewer ingredients is okay. We get almost all our dairy from either Tillamook or Straus Family. But yes, it goes through a process, though at least I know what all the ingredients are.

I think the issue is highly processed versus processed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the desire to avoid processed foods. Do you avoid medicine, too? What other scientific advances do you shun?

Oh come on. You know darn well many 'food' items are not food at all and contribute significantly to disease which makes you need medicine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For buns, only sub I can think of is to bake your own bread. Quick and easy, IF you have a breadmaker. And with so many going carb free these days, you can probably pick one up free or super cheap

Lunch - leftovers from dinner, or, make big pots of various stew and/or soups over the weekend and take for lunch, or a salad

Snacks - for me it's veggies or fruit

Breakfast - yogurt or cottage cheese

So processed is OK as long as we process it ourselves? Including the flour?

Read this -- it explains unprocessed, minimally processed, processed, and high or ultra processed foods. The latter are the ones to avoid.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-are-ultra-processed-foods-and-are-they-bad-for-our-health-2020010918605

So bread made simply with flour, water, and yeast is processed, but bread can also be ultra processed when nutrients like the germ is removed from the flour, and salt, oil, and chemicals are added to prevent it from going stale. Green beans might be processed by cutting and freezing the beans, but if canned with chemicals, added salt, oil and maybe even sugar then it is ultra processed.

No shït… carrot cake isn’t as healthy as carrots? You don’t say.

Not sure what you are responding to here. I'm just helping pp with the definitions. You can eat whatever you want. Why are you even on this thread if you don't have help for OP's question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we're thinking of experimenting with eliminating ultra processed foods, as described in the Wall Street Journal.
https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/my-family-went-off-ultra-processed-foods-for-a-month-the-results-surprised-us-ac8015b1?mod=lifestyle_trendingnow_article_pos1

We already do pretty well but there are a few items in regular rotation that I think will have to go, for a while anyway, and I wondered if folks had come up with good replacements.

Buns: we turn lots of things into burgers-- beans, lentils, ground turkey-- and we love brioche buns
Lunch: gotta be quick! and portable! No more frozen pizza
Snacks: I love cheese and crackers. But I think both cheese and crackers are UPFs
Breakfast: Cold cereal has to go. Steel cut oats seem minimally processed, but they take so long to cook. How about rolled oats?

Tl;dr: What substitutions have you made that worked to remove highly processed foods from your kitchen?

Less than 5 minutes, what are you talking about?

I think you are confusing rolled oats (flakes which are basically instant) with steel cut oats, often called Irish oats. They are shaped like hard little nuggets and take longer to cook -- 35 to 40 minutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that snacks and packed lunches are hardest. I still eat things like yogurt and hummus that are technically processed, otherwise I would not be able to get enough food volume.

I recommend getting a cookbook for inspiration and ideas.

Snacks are the easiest! Only eat fruits and veggies.

For blood sugar and hormone balance as well as satiety, I try to have a balanced snack with protein, carb and fat. So, while it may include fruit or veggie, that won’t be the only thing I eat for a snack. Also, veggies aren’t necessarily easy, they require prep!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we're thinking of experimenting with eliminating ultra processed foods, as described in the Wall Street Journal.
https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/my-family-went-off-ultra-processed-foods-for-a-month-the-results-surprised-us-ac8015b1?mod=lifestyle_trendingnow_article_pos1

We already do pretty well but there are a few items in regular rotation that I think will have to go, for a while anyway, and I wondered if folks had come up with good replacements.

Buns: we turn lots of things into burgers-- beans, lentils, ground turkey-- and we love brioche buns
Lunch: gotta be quick! and portable! No more frozen pizza
Snacks: I love cheese and crackers. But I think both cheese and crackers are UPFs
Breakfast: Cold cereal has to go. Steel cut oats seem minimally processed, but they take so long to cook. How about rolled oats?

Tl;dr: What substitutions have you made that worked to remove highly processed foods from your kitchen?

Less than 5 minutes, what are you talking about?

Were these magic grits?

Objection your honor!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we're thinking of experimenting with eliminating ultra processed foods, as described in the Wall Street Journal.
https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/my-family-went-off-ultra-processed-foods-for-a-month-the-results-surprised-us-ac8015b1?mod=lifestyle_trendingnow_article_pos1

We already do pretty well but there are a few items in regular rotation that I think will have to go, for a while anyway, and I wondered if folks had come up with good replacements.

Buns: we turn lots of things into burgers-- beans, lentils, ground turkey-- and we love brioche buns
Lunch: gotta be quick! and portable! No more frozen pizza
Snacks: I love cheese and crackers. But I think both cheese and crackers are UPFs
Breakfast: Cold cereal has to go. Steel cut oats seem minimally processed, but they take so long to cook. How about rolled oats?

Tl;dr: What substitutions have you made that worked to remove highly processed foods from your kitchen?

Less than 5 minutes, what are you talking about?

Were these magic grits?

Objection your honor!

I have found my people. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the desire to avoid processed foods. Do you avoid medicine, too? What other scientific advances do you shun?

Oh come on. You know darn well many 'food' items are not food at all and contribute significantly to disease which makes you need medicine.

NP. I am also a bit confused by what people are hoping to achieve by avoiding processed foods. Processed foods span a huge range of food types. I completely understand ruling out fast food and Doritos, but the posts on this thread seem to be going in a more extreme direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the desire to avoid processed foods. Do you avoid medicine, too? What other scientific advances do you shun?

Oh come on. You know darn well many 'food' items are not food at all and contribute significantly to disease which makes you need medicine.

NP. I am also a bit confused by what people are hoping to achieve by avoiding processed foods. Processed foods span a huge range of food types. I completely understand ruling out fast food and Doritos, but the posts on this thread seem to be going in a more extreme direction.

The body is healthiest on a completely unprocessed diet. Try it for a month. Your skin will glow, your energy will improve and you will feel amazing. It’s hard to sustain though and a little bit of processed food is reasonable. But, most people convince themself they can have way more than they should, even in a “healthy” diet - powders, bars, and other stuff are still processed food and not ideal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the desire to avoid processed foods. Do you avoid medicine, too? What other scientific advances do you shun?

Oh come on. You know darn well many 'food' items are not food at all and contribute significantly to disease which makes you need medicine.

Whether a substance is toxic or carcinogenic is entirely orthogonal to whether it is processed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the desire to avoid processed foods. Do you avoid medicine, too? What other scientific advances do you shun?

Oh come on. You know darn well many 'food' items are not food at all and contribute significantly to disease which makes you need medicine.

NP. I am also a bit confused by what people are hoping to achieve by avoiding processed foods. Processed foods span a huge range of food types. I completely understand ruling out fast food and Doritos, but the posts on this thread seem to be going in a more extreme direction.

The body is healthiest on a completely unprocessed diet. Try it for a month. Your skin will glow, your energy will improve and you will feel amazing. It’s hard to sustain though and a little bit of processed food is reasonable. But, most people convince themself they can have way more than they should, even in a “healthy” diet - powders, bars, and other stuff are still processed food and not ideal.

You know what's crazy, right? I can't tell if that was a serious reply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the desire to avoid processed foods. Do you avoid medicine, too? What other scientific advances do you shun?

Oh come on. You know darn well many 'food' items are not food at all and contribute significantly to disease which makes you need medicine.

NP. I am also a bit confused by what people are hoping to achieve by avoiding processed foods. Processed foods span a huge range of food types. I completely understand ruling out fast food and Doritos, but the posts on this thread seem to be going in a more extreme direction.

The body is healthiest on a completely unprocessed diet. Try it for a month. Your skin will glow, your energy will improve and you will feel amazing. It’s hard to sustain though and a little bit of processed food is reasonable. But, most people convince themself they can have way more than they should, even in a “healthy” diet - powders, bars, and other stuff are still processed food and not ideal.

You know what's crazy, right? I can't tell if that was a serious reply.

How so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the desire to avoid processed foods. Do you avoid medicine, too? What other scientific advances do you shun?

Oh come on. You know darn well many 'food' items are not food at all and contribute significantly to disease which makes you need medicine.

NP. I am also a bit confused by what people are hoping to achieve by avoiding processed foods. Processed foods span a huge range of food types. I completely understand ruling out fast food and Doritos, but the posts on this thread seem to be going in a more extreme direction.

The body is healthiest on a completely unprocessed diet. Try it for a month. Your skin will glow, your energy will improve and you will feel amazing. It’s hard to sustain though and a little bit of processed food is reasonable. But, most people convince themself they can have way more than they should, even in a “healthy” diet - powders, bars, and other stuff are still processed food and not ideal.

You know what's crazy, right? I can't tell if that was a serious reply.

How so?

Sarcasm is hard to detect without visual or auditory clues. The post reads like a parody, but it is so hard to tell what was intended sometimes...