Can a boy go from ECNL to D1?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out how much choosing ECNL over MLSN impacts college outcomes.

Also which MD or DC ECNL teams are the best?

RU's graduating class is sending boys to UVA, WVU and Georgetown. Of course ECNL kids go D1. Probably no difference, maybe edge to ECNL for college.

[Anonymous]

Ok- this is a silly post. Many ECNL boys go D1. Locally just look at the Arlington recently graduated class- many D1s in there alongside NVA grads going D1. Richmond and VA Beach - D1 commits and Mid Atlantic isn’t even the strongest ECNL region. If you look at schools on West or Texas a ton of ECNL players fill those rosters. Nearly a quarter of ECNL players go D1. College is the focus for ECNL so they have a big network. What is impacting that and will continue to impact is international and transfer portal. Has nothing to do with ECNL itself. With the pressure on internationals student visas right now though it might reverse course for the class of 2027 -2029.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out how much choosing ECNL over MLSN impacts college outcomes.

Also which MD or DC ECNL teams are the best?

MLSN is considered the highest tier for boys soccer. Period. This does not automatically equate every MLSN team is better than every ECNL team nor does it mean every MLSN player is better than every ECNL player.

Take the above into account, and MLSN players will have a better chance of making D1. But there are so many other factors. How good is the team? Does the team get knocked off the first round during tournaments and showcases? Is the specific player actually performing well? One could easily make the argument that some standout kid in the top ECNL team will have a better chance than a benchwarmer kid in the lowest ranking MLSN team.

Also, consider that true standout MLSN players, at least most of them, are looking to go pro immediately upon age of eligibility. College might not be the top priority for those players.

Actually MLS Academies are considered the top tier in boys soccer (domestically). MLSN is second tier. Probably higher than ECNL in the second tier. But same second tier, not the highest tier.

There goes the ECNL defender.

Please stop with this nonsense.

NO LEAGUE MAKES YOU. PERIOD. Yes, there are boys in ECNL just as good and coveted by MLS Next squads but you are sadly mistaken if you think the levels are close in the DMV. In parts of TX, the reverse is true as ECNL still dominates some parts there and other parts of the country.

Most of us are pretty well off so our kids have choices. ECNL is mostly the best of the well-off while MLS Next, via academies playing, encompasses a brought range of the financial landscape and has the best overall talent. When they start a separate league for MLS academies, ECNL can come have an argument. With that said, if I were in NOVA, I would easily choose Arlington over SYC, despite SYC being in MLS Next. The goal of being in Arlington would be to get picked up by ANY academy other than DCU and then play in MLS Next.

Argues forcefully that MLSNext is the best, period.
Says he would choose an ECNL team over any MLSNext team in the area.
Go figure.

[Anonymous]

The better question: Can a boy from USYS go to D1?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out how much choosing ECNL over MLSN impacts college outcomes.

Also which MD or DC ECNL teams are the best?

MLSN is considered the highest tier for boys soccer. Period. This does not automatically equate every MLSN team is better than every ECNL team nor does it mean every MLSN player is better than every ECNL player.

Take the above into account, and MLSN players will have a better chance of making D1. But there are so many other factors. How good is the team? Does the team get knocked off the first round during tournaments and showcases? Is the specific player actually performing well? One could easily make the argument that some standout kid in the top ECNL team will have a better chance than a benchwarmer kid in the lowest ranking MLSN team.

Also, consider that true standout MLSN players, at least most of them, are looking to go pro immediately upon age of eligibility. College might not be the top priority for those players.

Actually MLS Academies are considered the top tier in boys soccer (domestically). MLSN is second tier. Probably higher than ECNL in the second tier. But same second tier, not the highest tier.

There goes the ECNL defender.

Please stop with this nonsense.

NO LEAGUE MAKES YOU. PERIOD. Yes, there are boys in ECNL just as good and coveted by MLS Next squads but you are sadly mistaken if you think the levels are close in the DMV. In parts of TX, the reverse is true as ECNL still dominates some parts there and other parts of the country.

Most of us are pretty well off so our kids have choices. ECNL is mostly the best of the well-off while MLS Next, via academies playing, encompasses a brought range of the financial landscape and has the best overall talent. When they start a separate league for MLS academies, ECNL can come have an argument. With that said, if I were in NOVA, I would easily choose Arlington over SYC, despite SYC being in MLS Next. The goal of being in Arlington would be to get picked up by ANY academy other than DCU and then play in MLS Next.

MLSN p2p has strong teams. I just don’t understand the need to pretend they are at the same level as MLS Academies just because they play each other. Undermines credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the advantages of playing d1 over d2?
What's the advantages of playing d2 over d3?

Bragging rights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out how much choosing ECNL over MLSN impacts college outcomes.

Also which MD or DC ECNL teams are the best?

MLSN is considered the highest tier for boys soccer. Period. This does not automatically equate every MLSN team is better than every ECNL team nor does it mean every MLSN player is better than every ECNL player.

Take the above into account, and MLSN players will have a better chance of making D1. But there are so many other factors. How good is the team? Does the team get knocked off the first round during tournaments and showcases? Is the specific player actually performing well? One could easily make the argument that some standout kid in the top ECNL team will have a better chance than a benchwarmer kid in the lowest ranking MLSN team.

Also, consider that true standout MLSN players, at least most of them, are looking to go pro immediately upon age of eligibility. College might not be the top priority for those players.

Actually MLS Academies are considered the top tier in boys soccer (domestically). MLSN is second tier. Probably higher than ECNL in the second tier. But same second tier, not the highest tier.

There goes the ECNL defender.

Please stop with this nonsense.

NO LEAGUE MAKES YOU. PERIOD. Yes, there are boys in ECNL just as good and coveted by MLS Next squads but you are sadly mistaken if you think the levels are close in the DMV. In parts of TX, the reverse is true as ECNL still dominates some parts there and other parts of the country.

Most of us are pretty well off so our kids have choices. ECNL is mostly the best of the well-off while MLS Next, via academies playing, encompasses a brought range of the financial landscape and has the best overall talent. When they start a separate league for MLS academies, ECNL can come have an argument. With that said, if I were in NOVA, I would easily choose Arlington over SYC, despite SYC being in MLS Next. The goal of being in Arlington would be to get picked up by ANY academy other than DCU and then play in MLS Next.

MLSN p2p has strong teams. I just don’t understand the need to pretend they are at the same level as MLS Academies just because they play each other. Undermines credibility.

You just described every club-based "elite" league in youth soccer!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out how much choosing ECNL over MLSN impacts college outcomes.

Also which MD or DC ECNL teams are the best?

RU's graduating class is sending boys to UVA, WVU and Georgetown. Of course ECNL kids go D1. Probably no difference, maybe edge to ECNL for college.

If its not a full soccer scholarship, they aren't so-called sending them

Go to the rosters of each of those colleges soccer teams and say again ECNL is an advantage over MLS Next

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out how much choosing ECNL over MLSN impacts college outcomes.

Also which MD or DC ECNL teams are the best?

RU's graduating class is sending boys to UVA, WVU and Georgetown. Of course ECNL kids go D1. Probably no difference, maybe edge to ECNL for college.

If its not a full soccer scholarship, they aren't so-called sending them

Go to the rosters of each of those colleges soccer teams and say again ECNL is an advantage over MLS Next

I spot checked those three schools. It's difficult to analyze without drilling down on each player's bio but it appears that the players come from in order: International, MLS Academy, ECNL then MLSN p2p. I saw a few RU and VDA players and a couple of Baltimore Armour players. Probably a wash unless you are at an academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out how much choosing ECNL over MLSN impacts college outcomes.

Also which MD or DC ECNL teams are the best?

RU's graduating class is sending boys to UVA, WVU and Georgetown. Of course ECNL kids go D1. Probably no difference, maybe edge to ECNL for college.

If its not a full soccer scholarship, they aren't so-called sending them

Go to the rosters of each of those colleges soccer teams and say again ECNL is an advantage over MLS Next

I spot checked those three schools. It's difficult to analyze without drilling down on each player's bio but it appears that the players come from in order: International, MLS Academy, ECNL then MLSN p2p. I saw a few RU and VDA players and a couple of Baltimore Armour players. Probably a wash unless you are at an academy.

If you by your own admission didn't dig into the details, how did you come to a conclusion and in a particular order?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the advantages of playing d1 over d2?
What's the advantages of playing d2 over d3?

Bragging rights

It's more than bragging rights. I don't know all the differences, but from what I'm told, D1 soccer is year round training. Often more staff to handle the student-athlete's issues from psych, nutrition, tutoring, travel, more money in the budget, etc. and then there is the possibility of getting athletic scholarship money. For D3, it's not year round There is limits to how much you can train in the offseason so there is more of a balance between school and sports, no chance at athletic scholarship money (but they might find you merit aid just like at a D1 too), there is also supporting (tutoring, etc but I heard often not as much as D1). I'm sure there are some D3 with fabulous support systems for the students and better facilities and all that than D1 but I think what I listed is generally true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the advantages of playing d1 over d2?
What's the advantages of playing d2 over d3?

Bragging rights

It's more than bragging rights. I don't know all the differences, but from what I'm told, D1 soccer is year round training. Often more staff to handle the student-athlete's issues from psych, nutrition, tutoring, travel, more money in the budget, etc. and then there is the possibility of getting athletic scholarship money. For D3, it's not year round There is limits to how much you can train in the offseason so there is more of a balance between school and sports, no chance at athletic scholarship money (but they might find you merit aid just like at a D1 too), there is also supporting (tutoring, etc but I heard often not as much as D1). I'm sure there are some D3 with fabulous support systems for the students and better facilities and all that than D1 but I think what I listed is generally true.

Anyone told you it's year round training is lying

My D1 son is at summer internship job right now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the advantages of playing d1 over d2?
What's the advantages of playing d2 over d3?

Bragging rights

It's more than bragging rights. I don't know all the differences, but from what I'm told, D1 soccer is year round training. Often more staff to handle the student-athlete's issues from psych, nutrition, tutoring, travel, more money in the budget, etc. and then there is the possibility of getting athletic scholarship money. For D3, it's not year round There is limits to how much you can train in the offseason so there is more of a balance between school and sports, no chance at athletic scholarship money (but they might find you merit aid just like at a D1 too), there is also supporting (tutoring, etc but I heard often not as much as D1). I'm sure there are some D3 with fabulous support systems for the students and better facilities and all that than D1 but I think what I listed is generally true.

Anyone told you it's year round training is lying

My D1 son is at summer internship job right now

He's not doing any workouts this summer? That won't end well for him when the season starts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the advantages of playing d1 over d2?
What's the advantages of playing d2 over d3?

Bragging rights

It's more than bragging rights. I don't know all the differences, but from what I'm told, D1 soccer is year round training. Often more staff to handle the student-athlete's issues from psych, nutrition, tutoring, travel, more money in the budget, etc. and then there is the possibility of getting athletic scholarship money. For D3, it's not year round There is limits to how much you can train in the offseason so there is more of a balance between school and sports, no chance at athletic scholarship money (but they might find you merit aid just like at a D1 too), there is also supporting (tutoring, etc but I heard often not as much as D1). I'm sure there are some D3 with fabulous support systems for the students and better facilities and all that than D1 but I think what I listed is generally true.

Anyone told you it's year round training is lying

My D1 son is at summer internship job right now

This depends entirely on the D1 program. Our son had less than a month off per year because the players were required to staff camps for the college most of the summer.

D1 is really grueling at most top soccer programs. My son and his teammates have no regrets about going this route, but his friends who played D3 had a more fun and balanced life in college. We know several boys who have gone pro from D1 schools, and that’s not really an option for those who play D3. Not a consideration for most kids who go the college route, but just pointing it out. I don’t actually know any D2 players. There are far fewer schools in that category.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the advantages of playing d1 over d2?
What's the advantages of playing d2 over d3?

Bragging rights

It's more than bragging rights. I don't know all the differences, but from what I'm told, D1 soccer is year round training. Often more staff to handle the student-athlete's issues from psych, nutrition, tutoring, travel, more money in the budget, etc. and then there is the possibility of getting athletic scholarship money. For D3, it's not year round There is limits to how much you can train in the offseason so there is more of a balance between school and sports, no chance at athletic scholarship money (but they might find you merit aid just like at a D1 too), there is also supporting (tutoring, etc but I heard often not as much as D1). I'm sure there are some D3 with fabulous support systems for the students and better facilities and all that than D1 but I think what I listed is generally true.

Anyone told you it's year round training is lying

My D1 son is at summer internship job right now

He's not doing any workouts this summer? That won't end well for him when the season starts.

He's a starter on a conference championship team

But thanks for your advice and insight