"Ivy"

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…


OP asked why people use term Ivy in general sense. I haven’t personally noticed that, but regardless people are commenting on their claim no one would choose certain schools over MIT and Stanford which is false. No one is claiming they aren’t good schools, of course they are. Not sure I’m understanding your point?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.


No, it refers to the eight schools in the Ivy League.

UVA and Michigan are fine schools on their own and don’t need wear borrowed glory.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…

No, Stanford isn’t the top. Today’s ranking should be 1. MIT 2. Harvard 3. Stanford
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lower ivies (3 of them) are filled with wannabes


One would hope that every college was filled with wannabes otherwise there would be no bes. If your DC is not a wannabe you messed up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.


No, it refers to the eight schools in the Ivy League.

UVA and Michigan are fine schools on their own and don’t need wear borrowed glory.


They are large state schools with 30% acceptance rate in-state. They don’t compare at all to these 4k-6k test required schools with 4% acceptance rates and undergrad focus. Not knocking that they are good public universities, but they don’t come close to the Ivy experience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lower ivies (3 of them) are filled with wannabes


One would hope that every college was filled with wannabes otherwise there would be no bes. If your DC is not a wannabe you messed up.


They are filled with kids who they were a first choice. They are filled with kids with the same perfect GPAs and test scores as HPYSM kids. They ate filled with kids that academically are identical—it comes down to student choice and fit. You are ridiculous. Your kid didn’t get into a T-10, let alone a T20.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.


No, it refers to the eight schools in the Ivy League.

UVA and Michigan are fine schools on their own and don’t need wear borrowed glory.


They are large state schools with 30% acceptance rate in-state. They don’t compare at all to these 4k-6k test required schools with 4% acceptance rates and undergrad focus. Not knocking that they are good public universities, but they don’t come close to the Ivy experience.


+1

The Ivies are so great that to prove any school outside the 8 Ivies is great, they borrow the brand. Slap “Ivy” on anything and it will sell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.


While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.


While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.


Pretty sure people are referring to their choice to apply or not? Obviously not a choice if didn’t apply.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Just say your kid goes to Brown.

Nobody picks Darmouth over MIT or Stanford.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.


Then they didn't actually have the choice.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…


Most kids that have been admitted to both will choose to attend harvard. Maybe different this year because of the political situation but too early to say stanford has overtaken harvard. MIT has a better claim to having overtaken harvard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.


While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.


Pretty sure people are referring to their choice to apply or not? Obviously not a choice if didn’t apply.


Exactly, mine hates CA and has no interest in west coast, so choice was made in not applying. Who knows how it would have played out, don’t care. Strange thread, gotten really off track when OP was asking about why people use term broadly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.


While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.

These schools don’t have +80% yields for nothing. Anecdotes aside, it’s the 80% yield schools - HMS - and then everyone else.

Time to downgrade Yale and its 70% yield…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.


While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.


Pretty sure people are referring to their choice to apply or not? Obviously not a choice if didn’t apply.


Exactly, mine hates CA and has no interest in west coast, so choice was made in not applying. Who knows how it would have played out, don’t care. Strange thread, gotten really off track when OP was asking about why people use term broadly.

Well, since Stanford has 1/2 the admissions rate, you can take a pretty good guess.
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