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[Anonymous]

I am actually surprised all of these programs are surviving due to the NCAA/House litigation that is shrinking swim rosters, particularly men’s. I think the threshold for swimming in college is going to get exponentially harder, so it is getting harder to justify the sacrifices made to not get a slot and probably hurt your chances in regular college admissions bc you have no other activities. I have always been told Winter juniors cuts and good grades will get a kid a slot at a D1 school. I think you are now going to need faster times than that, which is really hard.

As a parent of a kid staring down this reality and who loves to be in the water, it is depressing. I feel bad they have spent so much time on the sport (and achieved what used to be the needed standards) and it will likely go no where now. If I had a younger kid I would stick with summer swim and HS swim and try to develop other interests.

And, please save the criticism. I know there are worse problems in the world and I already blame myself for giving in when they asked to do all this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am actually surprised all of these programs are surviving due to the NCAA/House litigation that is shrinking swim rosters, particularly men’s. I think the threshold for swimming in college is going to get exponentially harder, so it is getting harder to justify the sacrifices made to not get a slot and probably hurt your chances in regular college admissions bc you have no other activities. I have always been told Winter juniors cuts and good grades will get a kid a slot at a D1 school. I think you are now going to need faster times than that, which is really hard.

As a parent of a kid staring down this reality and who loves to be in the water, it is depressing. I feel bad they have spent so much time on the sport (and achieved what used to be the needed standards) and it will likely go no where now. If I had a younger kid I would stick with summer swim and HS swim and try to develop other interests.

And, please save the criticism. I know there are worse problems in the world and I already blame myself for giving in when they asked to do all this.

This is crazy to me. My kids play different club sports. Not once did we go in with an expectation of a NCAA scholarship. Sports, including swim, are about so much more than getting a D1 scholarship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am actually surprised all of these programs are surviving due to the NCAA/House litigation that is shrinking swim rosters, particularly men’s. I think the threshold for swimming in college is going to get exponentially harder, so it is getting harder to justify the sacrifices made to not get a slot and probably hurt your chances in regular college admissions bc you have no other activities. I have always been told Winter juniors cuts and good grades will get a kid a slot at a D1 school. I think you are now going to need faster times than that, which is really hard.

As a parent of a kid staring down this reality and who loves to be in the water, it is depressing. I feel bad they have spent so much time on the sport (and achieved what used to be the needed standards) and it will likely go no where now. If I had a younger kid I would stick with summer swim and HS swim and try to develop other interests.

And, please save the criticism. I know there are worse problems in the world and I already blame myself for giving in when they asked to do all this.

This is crazy to me. My kids play different club sports. Not once did we go in with an expectation of a NCAA scholarship. Sports, including swim, are about so much more than getting a D1 scholarship.

+1, I have a 13 year old daughter and the House litigation has not entered my mind at all (yes I know the impacts are less on the female swimmers). She swims for so many reasons other than the hope of a D1 scholarships, and the lessons swimming has taught her are just as important as adding another meaningless activity to fill out a college application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am actually surprised all of these programs are surviving due to the NCAA/House litigation that is shrinking swim rosters, particularly men’s. I think the threshold for swimming in college is going to get exponentially harder, so it is getting harder to justify the sacrifices made to not get a slot and probably hurt your chances in regular college admissions bc you have no other activities. I have always been told Winter juniors cuts and good grades will get a kid a slot at a D1 school. I think you are now going to need faster times than that, which is really hard.

As a parent of a kid staring down this reality and who loves to be in the water, it is depressing. I feel bad they have spent so much time on the sport (and achieved what used to be the needed standards) and it will likely go no where now. If I had a younger kid I would stick with summer swim and HS swim and try to develop other interests.

And, please save the criticism. I know there are worse problems in the world and I already blame myself for giving in when they asked to do all this.

These clubs are not immune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am actually surprised all of these programs are surviving due to the NCAA/House litigation that is shrinking swim rosters, particularly men’s. I think the threshold for swimming in college is going to get exponentially harder, so it is getting harder to justify the sacrifices made to not get a slot and probably hurt your chances in regular college admissions bc you have no other activities. I have always been told Winter juniors cuts and good grades will get a kid a slot at a D1 school. I think you are now going to need faster times than that, which is really hard.

As a parent of a kid staring down this reality and who loves to be in the water, it is depressing. I feel bad they have spent so much time on the sport (and achieved what used to be the needed standards) and it will likely go no where now. If I had a younger kid I would stick with summer swim and HS swim and try to develop other interests.

And, please save the criticism. I know there are worse problems in the world and I already blame myself for giving in when they asked to do all this.

I get your point, but what does this all have to do with ASA? It's way off the topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am actually surprised all of these programs are surviving due to the NCAA/House litigation that is shrinking swim rosters, particularly men’s. I think the threshold for swimming in college is going to get exponentially harder, so it is getting harder to justify the sacrifices made to not get a slot and probably hurt your chances in regular college admissions bc you have no other activities. I have always been told Winter juniors cuts and good grades will get a kid a slot at a D1 school. I think you are now going to need faster times than that, which is really hard.

As a parent of a kid staring down this reality and who loves to be in the water, it is depressing. I feel bad they have spent so much time on the sport (and achieved what used to be the needed standards) and it will likely go no where now. If I had a younger kid I would stick with summer swim and HS swim and try to develop other interests.

And, please save the criticism. I know there are worse problems in the world and I already blame myself for giving in when they asked to do all this.

Not every parent of a kid in club swim is thinking about whether their child might swim in college one day.

[Anonymous]

From ASA NTG, 15+ kids are graduating, and a number moving over to NCAP P, one to NCAP Burke, and at least 1 RMSC.

That’s about 70% of the group turning over

[Anonymous]

15+ graduating seems incorrect (we are in NTG)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:15+ graduating seems incorrect (we are in NTG)

If you go to a meet like ISCA, PVS Champs or Metros on Meet Mobile you will get to that number if not more when you comb through the roster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From ASA NTG, 15+ kids are graduating, and a number moving over to NCAP P, one to NCAP Burke, and at least 1 RMSC.

That’s about 70% of the group turning over

That is a very high number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:15+ graduating seems incorrect (we are in NTG)

If you go to a meet like ISCA, PVS Champs or Metros on Meet Mobile you will get to that number if not more when you comb through the roster.

Not everyone who goes to ISCA or PVS Champs are NTG. ASA has three groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:15+ graduating seems incorrect (we are in NTG)

If you go to a meet like ISCA, PVS Champs or Metros on Meet Mobile you will get to that number if not more when you comb through the roster.

Not everyone who goes to ISCA or PVS Champs are NTG. ASA has three groups.

I think you are splitting hairs here. ASG is a strong group, but knowing some of the NTG / ASG breakdown the 15 or so seems right. Feel free to count for yourself.

[Anonymous]

ASA sent more boys to swim at D1 schools than NCAP Prep has in the past five years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ASA sent more boys to swim at D1 schools than NCAP Prep has in the past five years

NCAP Prep has more Olympian’s than ASA has ever had. What is there number? That is right zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ASA sent more boys to swim at D1 schools than NCAP Prep has in the past five years

NCAP Prep has more Olympian’s than ASA has ever had. What is there number? That is right zero.

Prep also leads in eating disorders, suicide attempts and shoulder replacements.