How is/did the males you know do at 60% female school?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding?

OP, my son is currently at a school that is about 58%-42% F to M.

He promptly found himself a girlfriend.

Guy friends are great and are all having a ball. They know they'll never have it this good numbers-wise again in their lives.


Colleges are F:M 60:40, why do you assume things will change dramatically after college?

Given how males and females choose their partners, it will be difficult for educated females and less educated males, it’s a numbers game.

Or the norms will have to change for example women will have to be happy with a spouse that is less educated or earns less money, or share a partner with another woman.


DP. Not all schools are heavily female. Most SLACS and smaller schools are, but not many larger universities. Better balance there.


It’s 58:42 for college enrollment and if you account for the graduation rates it’s 60:40 for bachelor degrees on average over the entire population, not just SLACS.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/08/07/women-continue-to-outpace-men-in-college-enrollment-and-graduation/

A college graduate female looking for a partner with similar background is facing stiff competition, both in college and after graduation. You just can’t match 9 million females with 6 million males. The future of marriage, relationships and family will be very different for the next generations.
Not having a bachelor's degree doesn't automatically take someone out of the marriage market. People aren't that shallow.


It actually does for many women, although income can mitigate that. That’s why the marriage rates among the low income, no BA women are the lowest they’ve been.

It’s easy to find statistics showing that between being single and marrying someone without the desired combination of education and income, women prefer the former, ie rather be single than date a loser.

It’s not about being shallow it’s about the resources needed to start a family. Not saying it’s a good thing or universally true, but that’s how things skew.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:it's important for DS to have enough guys at the school for him to make male friends too, he's not just focused on a girlfriend or hook-ups.

I think a 55-45 or 50-50 school would be ideal, but those are few to come by in LACs tend to skew female.



Never heard dudes complaining there’s not enough guys in college to make friends. It’s more of a mom concern.
Anonymous
JMU is 58%-42% female to male, but my son's major (accounting) is 2:3 ratio of girls to boys (I assume that's just 3rd and 4th year students). He is really happy socially and academically.
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My husband went to a school that was 2/3 female, and he said that a lot of the men there developed inflated views of their own desirability/worth, and treated women pretty poorly, simply because they could.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding?

OP, my son is currently at a school that is about 58%-42% F to M.

He promptly found himself a girlfriend.

Guy friends are great and are all having a ball. They know they'll never have it this good numbers-wise again in their lives.


Colleges are F:M 60:40, why do you assume things will change dramatically after college?

Given how males and females choose their partners, it will be difficult for educated females and less educated males, it’s a numbers game.

Or the norms will have to change for example women will have to be happy with a spouse that is less educated or earns less money, or share a partner with another woman.


DP. Not all schools are heavily female. Most SLACS and smaller schools are, but not many larger universities. Better balance there.


It’s 58:42 for college enrollment and if you account for the graduation rates it’s 60:40 for bachelor degrees on average over the entire population, not just SLACS.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/08/07/women-continue-to-outpace-men-in-college-enrollment-and-graduation/

A college graduate female looking for a partner with similar background is facing stiff competition, both in college and after graduation. You just can’t match 9 million females with 6 million males. The future of marriage, relationships and family will be very different for the next generations.


You are assuming all of these graduates will remain in the U.S.

That won't be a given for future generations considering that the U.S. will be losing its superiority in research and high tech industry. They will have to travel
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Anonymous wrote:My son does not seem to be getting hit on at his 60:40 school. Maybe he needs an 80:20 school or perhaps an 85:15.


Boys are often oblivious to when they're being hit on. They think "oh she's just being nice." He might just need to alter his assumptions about why women are interacting with him.


No, it sounds like PPs son is being reasonable. My DD and her friends can't stand it when boys think they're being hit on just because a girl engages in a conversation with them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son does not seem to be getting hit on at his 60:40 school. Maybe he needs an 80:20 school or perhaps an 85:15.


Boys are often oblivious to when they're being hit on. They think "oh she's just being nice." He might just need to alter his assumptions about why women are interacting with him.


No, it sounds like PPs son is being reasonable. My DD and her friends can't stand it when boys think they're being hit on just because a girl engages in a conversation with them.


No, the boy is being hit on 90% of the time. How often do you see women engaging in conversation with strangers. Not saying they want to date them, but it’s the first step to see if there’s something worth pursuing.
Anonymous
The 60:40 environment is making men feel more entitled, assuming most of the times they are chased and treating the other gender poorly. This behavior used to be reserved only for pretty girls.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son does not seem to be getting hit on at his 60:40 school. Maybe he needs an 80:20 school or perhaps an 85:15.


Boys are often oblivious to when they're being hit on. They think "oh she's just being nice." He might just need to alter his assumptions about why women are interacting with him.


No, it sounds like PPs son is being reasonable. My DD and her friends can't stand it when boys think they're being hit on just because a girl engages in a conversation with them.


No, the boy is being hit on 90% of the time. How often do you see women engaging in conversation with strangers. Not saying they want to date them, but it’s the first step to see if there’s something worth pursuing.


OMG. My HS daughter for crying out loud has no problems going up to a boy she doesn't know if she has a question or when she's with friends, it's not unusual for them to go to a group of boys to strike a conversation about whatever. Kids these days aren't always looking to hook up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son does not seem to be getting hit on at his 60:40 school. Maybe he needs an 80:20 school or perhaps an 85:15.


Boys are often oblivious to when they're being hit on. They think "oh she's just being nice." He might just need to alter his assumptions about why women are interacting with him.


No, it sounds like PPs son is being reasonable. My DD and her friends can't stand it when boys think they're being hit on just because a girl engages in a conversation with them.


No, the boy is being hit on 90% of the time. How often do you see women engaging in conversation with strangers. Not saying they want to date them, but it’s the first step to see if there’s something worth pursuing.


Woman here and I have no fear in engaging in conversations with men I don't know. Doesn't mean I'm attracted to them.
Anonymous
Almost every school is creeping towards 60/40, even those that were 50/50 as recent as 3 years ago. Georgetown, Michigan, etc.
Anonymous
Depending on the school he'll either pull like crazy or turn into a radical feminist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is like hitting as jackpot….very well


Maybe we could refrain from using the word “jackpot” in this discussion?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Almost every school is creeping towards 60/40, even those that were 50/50 as recent as 3 years ago. Georgetown, Michigan, etc.


The steepest decline of males occurred from the fallout of Covid. Males applicants dropped by 7%, while female applicants dropped by only 2%...and males were already much lower in applying to college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son does not seem to be getting hit on at his 60:40 school. Maybe he needs an 80:20 school or perhaps an 85:15.


Boys are often oblivious to when they're being hit on. They think "oh she's just being nice." He might just need to alter his assumptions about why women are interacting with him.


No, it sounds like PPs son is being reasonable. My DD and her friends can't stand it when boys think they're being hit on just because a girl engages in a conversation with them.


No, the boy is being hit on 90% of the time. How often do you see women engaging in conversation with strangers. Not saying they want to date them, but it’s the first step to see if there’s something worth pursuing.


OMG. My HS daughter for crying out loud has no problems going up to a boy she doesn't know if she has a question or when she's with friends, it's not unusual for them to go to a group of boys to strike a conversation about whatever. Kids these days aren't always looking to hook up.


Ok, she’s going out with the girls and striking conversations with boys because she has a “question”. Sounds like flirting to me.
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