DH Plugged His Phone Into a rental Car

[Anonymous]

Business traveler here. I've been connecting my phone to rentals cars since the first aux cord inputs came out. Car Play is wonderful.

Move on.

[Anonymous]

Apple CarPlay doesn't store anything in the car. It's all removed when you disconnect the phone and it is encrypted so the car manufacturer does not have any access to the data. Remember that car manufacturers were never happy about supporting CarPlay and the Android equivalent. They were forced to by public demand (generated by Apple and Google) and competition with other car brands. They would prefer that you use their proprietary car operating systems so that they can collect your data, and some have tried moving away from supporting CarPlay or Android.

Bottom line, if it's CarPlay or Android, it's safe. Google and Apple already have access to all of your data and plugging in doesn't give access to anyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The old advice was about Bluetooth and usb pairing where your contacts were downloaded into the car so it could display names and numbers.

Modern cars have a proprietary interface for CarPlay where it basically acts as an external screen for your phone, I’m pretty sure it’s fairly secure interface and no worse than going on public WiFi?

The one concern I would have is and wiring from a beat up rental and getting higher voltage or a short from a dodgy USB and frying phone.

Public WiFi is pretty risky, don’t touch it without a vpn. I think it’s safe to assume that anything you share with your car is also shared with the car manufacturer. It’s up to you whether you care or not. Some do, the rest babble something about tin foil.

This ^

Also, I'll just add, VPN's are being compromised quite often now. Honeypots gathering data from unsuspecting users.

Do you know of particular vpn services that have been compromised? I try to go with non-obvious ones if possible. I figure the larger the user base the more likely it is to be risky.

There's no way to know for sure with most easily found ones for normies. Look at where their servers are and laws in that country. Also, their ties to other countries, corporations, billionaires, governments, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apple CarPlay doesn't store anything in the car. It's all removed when you disconnect the phone and it is encrypted so the car manufacturer does not have any access to the data. Wrong. Remember that car manufacturers were never happy about supporting CarPlay and the Android equivalent. Wrong again. They love the data. Makes them money selling it. They were forced to by public demand You spelled "government" wrong. (generated by Apple and Google) and competition with other car brands who are also gathering data to sell. They would prefer that you use their proprietary car operating systems so that they can collect your data They do anyway, and some have tried moving away from supporting CarPlay or Android.

Bottom line, if it's CarPlay or Android, it's safe. Sure Google and Apple already have access to all of your data Correct finally! and plugging in doesn't give access to anyone else. Until they sell it and share it with political and corporate entities. Or so-called hackers, there's always that as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Business traveler here. I've been connecting my phone to rentals cars since the first aux cord inputs came out. Car Play is wonderful.

Move on.

Oh well, heck. Nothing to see here then, a business traveler has spoken. All data is safe afterall. All the hundreds of billions of incidents of breached and shared data were imaginary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The old advice was about Bluetooth and usb pairing where your contacts were downloaded into the car so it could display names and numbers.

Modern cars have a proprietary interface for CarPlay where it basically acts as an external screen for your phone, I’m pretty sure it’s fairly secure interface and no worse than going on public WiFi?

The one concern I would have is and wiring from a beat up rental and getting higher voltage or a short from a dodgy USB and frying phone.

Public WiFi is pretty risky, don’t touch it without a vpn. I think it’s safe to assume that anything you share with your car is also shared with the car manufacturer. It’s up to you whether you care or not. Some do, the rest babble something about tin foil.

This ^

Also, I'll just add, VPN's are being compromised quite often now. Honeypots gathering data from unsuspecting users.

Do you know of particular vpn services that have been compromised? I try to go with non-obvious ones if possible. I figure the larger the user base the more likely it is to be risky.

There's no way to know for sure with most easily found ones for normies. Look at where their servers are and laws in that country. Also, their ties to other countries, corporations, billionaires, governments, etc.

I ditched express vpn when they got bought. It’s fast but they seem like a pretty shady bunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Business traveler here. I've been connecting my phone to rentals cars since the first aux cord inputs came out. Car Play is wonderful.

Move on.

Oh well, heck. Nothing to see here then, a business traveler has spoken. All data is safe afterall. All the hundreds of billions of incidents of breached and shared data were imaginary.

I’m grateful for people like that. They provide low-hanging fruit for hackers and hopefully keep them occupied.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Business traveler here. I've been connecting my phone to rentals cars since the first aux cord inputs came out. Car Play is wonderful.

Move on.

Oh well, heck. Nothing to see here then, a business traveler has spoken. All data is safe afterall. All the hundreds of billions of incidents of breached and shared data were imaginary.

I follow information security topics pretty closely and I am not aware of a single incident of someone's data being compromised by a car's security being breached. Do you have a citation for one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I plug my phone in but always delete the profile when I return the car.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Business traveler here. I've been connecting my phone to rentals cars since the first aux cord inputs came out. Car Play is wonderful.

Move on.

Do you plug in at airports?

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/usb-charging-ports-phone-airports-malware-fbi-warning-cords/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do see vestiges of other peoples phones in rental cars pretty often. Usually a phone name and other stuff. I guess the main thing is don’t let it download your contacts. I don’t even do that with my own car because the manufacturers are sapping every bit of info about you. It’s really pretty bad.

+1 I have, too. I plug my phone in, but I don't download contacts, and then I tell it to "forget" it when I return it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Business traveler here. I've been connecting my phone to rentals cars since the first aux cord inputs came out. Car Play is wonderful.

Move on.

Do you plug in at airports?

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/usb-charging-ports-phone-airports-malware-fbi-warning-cords/

No, I don't.

My point in mentioning that I'm a business traveler was to convey how much I rent cars, but I guess that wasn't clear. I've been in at least a dozen rentals cars per year, sometimes for days and sometimes for weeks, for about 30 years. No issues since plugging in started and I think that was 15-20 years ago.