My middle school math teacher died from Covid

Anonymous
I know several elderly people who died during the first year of covid.

Here’s the thing: all of them had underlying conditions…so they were heading in that direction anyway. Covid just accelerated it.

Put another way: a healthy person without underlying issues—even if elderly—isn’t likely to die from covid.

My parents and in-laws (all of whom are in their 80s) got covid and survived. Nobody landed in the hospital. Why? No underlying health issues. Nobody is overweight. No reactive airway disease. Etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know several elderly people who died during the first year of covid.

Here’s the thing: all of them had underlying conditions…so they were heading in that direction anyway. Covid just accelerated it.

Put another way: a healthy person without underlying issues—even if elderly—isn’t likely to die from covid.

My parents and in-laws (all of whom are in their 80s) got covid and survived. Nobody landed in the hospital. Why? No underlying health issues. Nobody is overweight. No reactive airway disease. Etc.


You're broadly correct of course, but please beware of overgeneralizing. Humans of all ages, *seemingly* healthy, have died of Covid. It's rare, but it happens. This is because millions of people walk about right now, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, with underlying disorders they know nothing about. I have a blood clotting disorder, for example, that was only discovered because my child was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease (that has a genetic predisposition) and I thought to get the same bloodwork to check. I have never had symptoms, but it makes me more vulnerable to certain complications. Rapid death due to Covid is associated with an overreaction of the immune systen and a blood clotting issue in target organs.

So you don't know, OP, who might be more vulnerable to what. YOU could have an underlying condition you don't know about.

Anonymous
Meant PP, sorry.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I worked with a vendor for my business. He unfortunately died of COVID in his 20s. He did not take the vaccine when it became available; this was back in 2021. It was really sad and awful.

Lots of people that took that vaccine died of covid nonetheless.


Sure, "lots" if "lots" means 17 times less likely than if you didn't take the vaccine. And that's data before the current boosters.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status

The covid vaxxed have lower death rates from non-covid illness too than the unvaxxed. Unless you think that the covid vaccine magically protects against non-covid illness as well, that points to health vaccinee bias; people who get the vaccine have better access to health care, less blue collar employment, higher incomes etc. than the unvaxxed and therefore have better outcomes for covid and non-covid illnesses. There are also statistical biases in US data. If hospitals reported unknown vaccine status for a covid patient, the CDC classified them as unvaxxed; one of the many ways that the tally of unvaxxed infections was boosted in US data.

In the UK, 95% of people dying from covid were vaxxed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Probably because his family wants to remind people to take it seriously.

My grandmother and two aunts died of Covid too.


I thought old people were supposed to live forever!


Shut up you subhuman idiot. People lost family members and you go online showing the world you are stupid. Genius
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I worked with a vendor for my business. He unfortunately died of COVID in his 20s. He did not take the vaccine when it became available; this was back in 2021. It was really sad and awful.

Lots of people that took that vaccine died of covid nonetheless.


Sure, "lots" if "lots" means 17 times less likely than if you didn't take the vaccine. And that's data before the current boosters.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status

The covid vaxxed have lower death rates from non-covid illness too than the unvaxxed. Unless you think that the covid vaccine magically protects against non-covid illness as well, that points to health vaccinee bias; people who get the vaccine have better access to health care, less blue collar employment, higher incomes etc. than the unvaxxed and therefore have better outcomes for covid and non-covid illnesses. There are also statistical biases in US data. If hospitals reported unknown vaccine status for a covid patient, the CDC classified them as unvaxxed; one of the many ways that the tally of unvaxxed infections was boosted in US data.

In the UK, 95% of people dying from covid were vaxxed.


BS BS BS BS
In the United States not only do we not have accurate reporting from red states on COVID deaths Republicans died at a rate significantly higher. Glad you idiots don’t love your families

Covid was a novel virus you idiots believed a con man over medical professionals. No one can fix this stupidity. Next time you won’t survive we will.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably because his family wants to remind people to take it seriously.

My grandmother and two aunts died of Covid too.


I thought old people were supposed to live forever!


Shut up you subhuman idiot. People lost family members and you go online showing the world you are stupid. Genius


Are you saying old people aren't supposed to live forever?
Anonymous
The eugenic bent here is notable, and not in a good way.

Excusing (even justifying) the deaths of marginal populations is the thinking the Nazis rode in on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The eugenic bent here is notable, and not in a good way.

Excusing (even justifying) the deaths of marginal populations is the thinking the Nazis rode in on.


Paging Godwin.

Close the thread now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know several elderly people who died during the first year of covid.

Here’s the thing: all of them had underlying conditions…so they were heading in that direction anyway. Covid just accelerated it.

Put another way: a healthy person without underlying issues—even if elderly—isn’t likely to die from covid.

My parents and in-laws (all of whom are in their 80s) got covid and survived. Nobody landed in the hospital. Why? No underlying health issues. Nobody is overweight. No reactive airway disease. Etc.


You're broadly correct of course, but please beware of overgeneralizing. Humans of all ages, *seemingly* healthy, have died of Covid. It's rare, but it happens. This is because millions of people walk about right now, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, with underlying disorders they know nothing about. I have a blood clotting disorder, for example, that was only discovered because my child was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease (that has a genetic predisposition) and I thought to get the same bloodwork to check. I have never had symptoms, but it makes me more vulnerable to certain complications. Rapid death due to Covid is associated with an overreaction of the immune systen and a blood clotting issue in target organs.

So you don't know, OP, who might be more vulnerable to what. YOU could have an underlying condition you don't know about.



Sure.

But I suppose I’m just struck by anyone who is surprised that someone in their 80s struggles or might even die when they get a respiratory virus. I mean, there’s a reason why the elderly get flu shots and the pneumonia vax…because a bad case can kill a vulnerable person…and all elderly people are vulnerable.

And I don’t get all the fear by younger people. So many people got covid this year and it was barely a cold. Live your life. Wash your hands.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know several elderly people who died during the first year of covid.

Here’s the thing: all of them had underlying conditions…so they were heading in that direction anyway. Covid just accelerated it.

Put another way: a healthy person without underlying issues—even if elderly—isn’t likely to die from covid.

My parents and in-laws (all of whom are in their 80s) got covid and survived. Nobody landed in the hospital. Why? No underlying health issues. Nobody is overweight. No reactive airway disease. Etc.


You're broadly correct of course, but please beware of overgeneralizing. Humans of all ages, *seemingly* healthy, have died of Covid. It's rare, but it happens. This is because millions of people walk about right now, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, with underlying disorders they know nothing about. I have a blood clotting disorder, for example, that was only discovered because my child was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease (that has a genetic predisposition) and I thought to get the same bloodwork to check. I have never had symptoms, but it makes me more vulnerable to certain complications. Rapid death due to Covid is associated with an overreaction of the immune systen and a blood clotting issue in target organs.

So you don't know, OP, who might be more vulnerable to what. YOU could have an underlying condition you don't know about.



Sure.

But I suppose I’m just struck by anyone who is surprised that someone in their 80s struggles or might even die when they get a respiratory virus. I mean, there’s a reason why the elderly get flu shots and the pneumonia vax…because a bad case can kill a vulnerable person…and all elderly people are vulnerable.

And I don’t get all the fear by younger people. So many people got covid this year and it was barely a cold. Live your life. Wash your hands.


My 45 year old husband had a “mild” case of COVID in June 2022 and has been disabled since that time. The original infection was “barely a cold” but he cannot “live his life.” I’m not afraid of it—I am living it, and warning you.

Handwashing has nothing to do with preventing COVID spread. Wear a mask.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The eugenic bent here is notable, and not in a good way.

Excusing (even justifying) the deaths of marginal populations is the thinking the Nazis rode in on.


Paging Godwin.

Close the thread now.


“Stop openly discussing how we are basically OK with the deaths of people we regard as inferior” is a thing the Nazis would have gone for as well.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The eugenic bent here is notable, and not in a good way.

Excusing (even justifying) the deaths of marginal populations is the thinking the Nazis rode in on.


Paging Godwin.

Close the thread now.


“Stop openly discussing how we are basically OK with the deaths of people we regard as inferior” is a thing the Nazis would have gone for as well.



Acknowledging that people are mortal, and that old people are expected to die from one of a number of causes, is not regarding them as inferior. We're all mortal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know several elderly people who died during the first year of covid.

Here’s the thing: all of them had underlying conditions…so they were heading in that direction anyway. Covid just accelerated it.

Put another way: a healthy person without underlying issues—even if elderly—isn’t likely to die from covid.

My parents and in-laws (all of whom are in their 80s) got covid and survived. Nobody landed in the hospital. Why? No underlying health issues. Nobody is overweight. No reactive airway disease. Etc.


You're broadly correct of course, but please beware of overgeneralizing. Humans of all ages, *seemingly* healthy, have died of Covid. It's rare, but it happens. This is because millions of people walk about right now, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, with underlying disorders they know nothing about. I have a blood clotting disorder, for example, that was only discovered because my child was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease (that has a genetic predisposition) and I thought to get the same bloodwork to check. I have never had symptoms, but it makes me more vulnerable to certain complications. Rapid death due to Covid is associated with an overreaction of the immune systen and a blood clotting issue in target organs.

So you don't know, OP, who might be more vulnerable to what. YOU could have an underlying condition you don't know about.



Sure.

But I suppose I’m just struck by anyone who is surprised that someone in their 80s struggles or might even die when they get a respiratory virus. I mean, there’s a reason why the elderly get flu shots and the pneumonia vax…because a bad case can kill a vulnerable person…and all elderly people are vulnerable.

And I don’t get all the fear by younger people. So many people got covid this year and it was barely a cold. Live your life. Wash your hands.


My 45 year old husband had a “mild” case of COVID in June 2022 and has been disabled since that time. The original infection was “barely a cold” but he cannot “live his life.” I’m not afraid of it—I am living it, and warning you.

Handwashing has nothing to do with preventing COVID spread. Wear a mask.


What happened to him? I know a guy like this. He is now on disability for cognitive impairment after gettin covid. His initial infection wasn't mild though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know several elderly people who died during the first year of covid.

Here’s the thing: all of them had underlying conditions…so they were heading in that direction anyway. Covid just accelerated it.

Put another way: a healthy person without underlying issues—even if elderly—isn’t likely to die from covid.

My parents and in-laws (all of whom are in their 80s) got covid and survived. Nobody landed in the hospital. Why? No underlying health issues. Nobody is overweight. No reactive airway disease. Etc.


You're broadly correct of course, but please beware of overgeneralizing. Humans of all ages, *seemingly* healthy, have died of Covid. It's rare, but it happens. This is because millions of people walk about right now, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, with underlying disorders they know nothing about. I have a blood clotting disorder, for example, that was only discovered because my child was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease (that has a genetic predisposition) and I thought to get the same bloodwork to check. I have never had symptoms, but it makes me more vulnerable to certain complications. Rapid death due to Covid is associated with an overreaction of the immune systen and a blood clotting issue in target organs.

So you don't know, OP, who might be more vulnerable to what. YOU could have an underlying condition you don't know about.



Sure.

But I suppose I’m just struck by anyone who is surprised that someone in their 80s struggles or might even die when they get a respiratory virus. I mean, there’s a reason why the elderly get flu shots and the pneumonia vax…because a bad case can kill a vulnerable person…and all elderly people are vulnerable.

And I don’t get all the fear by younger people. So many people got covid this year and it was barely a cold. Live your life. Wash your hands.


My 45 year old husband had a “mild” case of COVID in June 2022 and has been disabled since that time. The original infection was “barely a cold” but he cannot “live his life.” I’m not afraid of it—I am living it, and warning you.

Handwashing has nothing to do with preventing COVID spread. Wear a mask.


What happened to him? I know a guy like this. He is now on disability for cognitive impairment after gettin covid. His initial infection wasn't mild though.


I’m not sure I understand the question. In a subset of people with COVID—even mild COVID—this is a possible result. 90% of people with long COVID had “mild” COVID.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6

I’m happy to answer specific questions if you have them.
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