second home in Florida

Anonymous
It's not just the cost of insurance. Companies will pull out of the state altogether. That has happened in California and there are fewer companies to work with. Those that are still there charge more. And what if they leave?
Anonymous
We were dreaming about having a place in FL for a while, I wanted something beach front like a condo, turnkey, no hassles. While this is enticing we could never pull the trigger as it made no logical sense.

OP, do you have kids in school? When will go you there and how? Flights for a family can add up and driving there is too long. It really makes sense if you truly are going to live there at least a few months out of the year. Otherwise, you can rent airbnb or from local vacation rental furnished places that are abundant. We don't have much vacation time to spend there, we just go for a beachfront hotel to make it easy.

We have pets, that was also a reason to get our own place, but we can't see this making sense either until we can commit to living there for long enough periods of time.
Anonymous
I live inland in Florida. Nationwide dropped my home insurance last year. I'd been with them for over 25 years and never filed a claim. I had to go with Citizens.
Anonymous
2024 poster again--the age of the roof is really key for getting insurance and for cost of insurance
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Family and I had a nice 10 day long trip to Sarasota and had tons of fun. We rented a house with pool and wondering what would be people's recommendation for an upcoming and reasonably priced (<$750K) SFH on the gulf side as a second or vacation home. We like Sarasota but open to other cities as well.


I'd look from Cedar Key south to Port Charlotte/Punta Gorda. I'm not a fan of Cape Coral, Ft Myers or Naples as I find it really geriatric.

Anonymous
The best thing about the insurance crisis and the real estate market possibly tanking in FL is that maybe so many people will stop moving to FL at least for a little while, that can only be good for FL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know insurance is insane but it will balance out in the future. Also, property prices are coming down compare to what they were 6 months ago. Continue looking, OP and check the numbers.


Explain.


DP. Several interrelated factors: hurricanes come in waves, flood insurance premiums are being changed, and newer hurricane building codes are slowly becoming predominant. From 1919 to 1960, 10 category 4 or 5 hurricanes hit Florida. From 1960 to 2000, there was one (Andrew). For the 24 years 2000 to present, there have been 4, so we’re currently on a pace that’s more like the early part of the 20th century, if slightly slower. The 40 year lull coincided with a LOT of new population growth along the coast, so hurricanes now have more buildings in their way. On top of which, federally subsidized flood insurance encouraged people to build more, and more expensive, houses in the flood zone. Pre-flood insurance, houses along the coast were cinder block shacks. Only after federal flood insurance did we get gold plated mansions.

Post Andrew, there were stringent new building codes put in place for the Atlantic Coast, but the rest of Florida was slower to comply. Now, as the hurricanes come through, the old houses that are blown away are being replaced with new post-Andrew code construction, and for existing houses, insurance companies are encouraging upgrades by imposing much higher rates for non-compliant construction, as explained by a previous post (e.g., wind resistant structures, elevation out of the flood zone, etc). It’s going to take time to work through all the old housing stock, but over time, the combined pressure of hurricane damage and insurance rates will result in more hurricane resistant housing stock. Even if there is not another hurricane lull, insurance rates overall should normalize.

Here’s a house built to code, surrounded by non code houses, post category 5 Hurricane Micheal:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/14/us/hurricane-michael-florida-mexico-beach-house.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
Anonymous
what are the roughly costs for insurance for a SFH away from beach in Sarasota area? Give me an idea. 5K is not bad
Anonymous
Here’s a good article on what’s happening to the real estate market in Florida. If you have the means to buy a house there, maybe you’ll find a deal OP.
https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-housing-market-outlook-nightmare-home-prices-mortgage-rates-affordability-2024-7?amp
Anonymous
Look at Babcock Ranch in unincorporated Punta Gorda. You can get a new build pool home for under $750K. The town is solar powered and very innovation / family focused. About ~30 min from the airport (RSW). We've toured it a bunch over the years (keeping our eye on it for a relocation down the road) and continue to be impressed.
Anonymous
Florida forget it. People are moving out of Florida.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you looked into what insurance costs? I’d never own in Florida.


How much are we talking for insurance?


Part of the problem is even if you get a quote, it could go up 40% next year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anna Maria Island is so nice too


Not OP but looking into same. What are the reasonable price point for Anna Maria?


I just sold my house in Bean Point, the northern tip of Anna Maria Island, three months ago for 1.5M. Had to get rid of it due to insane cost of hurricane & flood insurance.


We sold our house too on 30A. Insurance was $40k a year, and we felt lucky to get insurance. It's easy for them to deny older properties. There is only 1 insurer left in FL, so there is really no room for negotiation - take it or leave it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anna Maria Island is so nice too


Not OP but looking into same. What are the reasonable price point for Anna Maria?


I just sold my house in Bean Point, the northern tip of Anna Maria Island, three months ago for 1.5M. Had to get rid of it due to insane cost of hurricane & flood insurance.


Wow, do you mind sharing how much?

We bought a second home in the mountains. We have been thrilled with it (Colorado). With global warming, summers are so enjoyable there and you can get some water activities in like paddle boarding or fishing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anna Maria Island is so nice too


Not OP but looking into same. What are the reasonable price point for Anna Maria?


I just sold my house in Bean Point, the northern tip of Anna Maria Island, three months ago for 1.5M. Had to get rid of it due to insane cost of hurricane & flood insurance.


We sold our house too on 30A. Insurance was $40k a year, and we felt lucky to get insurance. It's easy for them to deny older properties. There is only 1 insurer left in FL, so there is really no room for negotiation - take it or leave it.


$40k?????!!!!!! For what size house? What did your house sell for? was it oceanfront?
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