Potomac ECNL coach out

[Anonymous]

I would think the reasonable assumption here would be that he got pushed out. Look at it from his POV. He helped get Potomac an ECNL team, appointed himself as the coach of the national team, put his son (with little experience) in as the only goalie… it was a dream scenario. Why would he leave?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He either intentionally carved out a lack of accountability within the club for years, or the lack of accountability was permitted to exist. I have no direct knowledge of this sudden departure but it’s not surprising. Just overdue. Potomac will be better off with this departure imho. The 09 team is not the only one for which he has coached his own kid, self-managed the team, and was his own direct report. It’s hard to remain objective, and persuade parents you’re objective, when it looks a lot like nepotism. I agree with the post describing him as royalty but not in the way it was intended. It’s been unseemly and toxic for years. Potomac is a good club, focused on skill and development from an early age. Lots of toxic parents everywhere in travel sports in MoCo/DMV.

I absolutely agree with this, and am speaking from previous experience with him. Toxic and unseemly is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree with 7:09 poster. He and his family were sort of like Potomac Soccer royalty.

But not in a good way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He either intentionally carved out a lack of accountability within the club for years, or the lack of accountability was permitted to exist. I have no direct knowledge of this sudden departure but it’s not surprising. Just overdue. Potomac will be better off with this departure imho. The 09 team is not the only one for which he has coached his own kid, self-managed the team, and was his own direct report. It’s hard to remain objective, and persuade parents you’re objective, when it looks a lot like nepotism. I agree with the post describing him as royalty but not in the way it was intended. It’s been unseemly and toxic for years. Potomac is a good club, focused on skill and development from an early age. Lots of toxic parents everywhere in travel sports in MoCo/DMV.

Based on DCUM postings, almost every club in the DMV is focused on skill and development from an early age

I should have read this before I posted below, lol! But at least I now know I’m not the only one that saw it this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

I’m not sure you can say all that when the RL team is actually doing really well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

I’m not sure you can say all that when the RL team is actually doing really well.

One RL team is doing well. All the NL, and all the other RL teams are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

Then I guess the PP who said several 2008 players on the BSC MLS Next team came from Potomac is mistaken
Thanks for the clarification

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

Then I guess the PP who said several 2008 players on the BSC MLS Next team came from Potomac is mistaken
Thanks for the clarification

There are several 2008 players on the BSC MLSN team that came from Potomac. That is true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

Then I guess the PP who said several 2008 players on the BSC MLS Next team came from Potomac is mistaken
Thanks for the clarification

There are several 2008 players on the BSC MLSN team that came from Potomac. That is true.

and several of them went to Potomac from a smaller club

just how the game works in our area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

Then I guess the PP who said several 2008 players on the BSC MLS Next team came from Potomac is mistaken
Thanks for the clarification

There are several 2008 players on the BSC MLSN team that came from Potomac. That is true.

and several of them went to Potomac from a smaller club

just how the game works in our area

Yes, that is also true. Greener pasture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

Then I guess the PP who said several 2008 players on the BSC MLS Next team came from Potomac is mistaken
Thanks for the clarification

There are several 2008 players on the BSC MLSN team that came from Potomac. That is true.

and several of them went to Potomac from a smaller club

just how the game works in our area

Yes, that is also true. Greener pasture.

The great greener illusion has no end

"It's greener where you water it"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

Then I guess the PP who said several 2008 players on the BSC MLS Next team came from Potomac is mistaken
Thanks for the clarification

There are several 2008 players on the BSC MLSN team that came from Potomac. That is true.

and several of them went to Potomac from a smaller club

just how the game works in our area

Yes, that is also true. Greener pasture.

Correct. I feel like every BSC MLSN and ECNL team has boys and girls who have passed through Potomac. It’s like an unofficial feeder system.

[Anonymous]

I mean yes it's "greener where you water it" but who has the resources for that? Usually bigger clubs, although they have all the issues of bigger clubs. If your kid is looking for exposure, he or she is not going to get it past a certain point at a small club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of theories that make sense, if he had left at the end of the season.
I mean, the ECNL/RL has started out terribly, and there’s only one team in all of their years that’s competitive. Plus, one of the reasons they got ECNL in the first place was because of how good their 2008 team was, and then they promptly lost many of their good players to BSC.
So I don’t want to say that their NL/RL program is a disaster…you can expect some growing pains the first year or two…but I’m sure things haven’t gone like they had hoped.
But again…why now?!?

funny
the mentioned good 2008's came in together from a small club then left together for a bigger club

Potomac was a layover

No, that was the 2009 team.

I agree this doesn’t sound like the 2008 team. My kid was on that team at u9 and the talent was evident. He eventually moved on because he was in the wrong place but most of the team stayed intact.

Then I guess the PP who said several 2008 players on the BSC MLS Next team came from Potomac is mistaken
Thanks for the clarification

There are several 2008 players on the BSC MLSN team that came from Potomac. That is true.

and several of them went to Potomac from a smaller club

just how the game works in our area

Yes, that is also true. Greener pasture.

Correct. I feel like every BSC MLSN and ECNL team has boys and girls who have passed through Potomac. It’s like an unofficial feeder system.

Exaclty, which is why they wanted ECNL, to keep their best players around. And why their 2008 ECNL team was such a disapointment...becasue it didn't work.