Boys 2028 mess - considerations and solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the high likelihood that madlax and DCE are going to have lots of defections this fall (due to playing time issues and their lackluster performance). I would expect them to have openings next year.

But where will all those DCE and Madlax players go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the high likelihood that madlax and DCE are going to have lots of defections this fall (due to playing time issues and their lackluster performance). I would expect them to have openings next year.

But where will all those DCE and Madlax players go?

I don’t know but something’s got to give. The unhappiness on both teams is pungent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP's question was weird.

If someone wants to play in D1 (3% of all HS aged players), shouldn't he be a starter on a top club team that plays in good tournaments so the D1 coaches can notice them?

Good players should be stars on both club and HS teams. I don't see NL or ML's top teams overcrowd with more than 15 solid players. They may have 26 on the roster but that doesn't mean the last 11 are D1 material.

OP here. I want to clarify that my goal is just to give my son the best chance to achieve his dream. I don’t think D1 is likely for him but he’s a kid with a dream that I think is positive (certainly better than wanting to become a TikTok influencer). So I want to support. I don’t think it would be helpful for me to say to him. You’ve never been a top player so D1 is out for you.

So people here agree top players who play on top clubs are set, not because the top clubs promote them but the games themselves promote the top players with playing time.

What about the mid/mid-good players who still have dreams, should they work their way into top 30 clubs and have limited playing time or play as a starter for the more mid major clubs like VLC, TP and True? Could it work this way: have significant playing time on mid major teams and add some showcase tournament + "national team" tournaments?

No one is saying the top teams are set. If your kid is better than those kids, they will be added to the team. The problem you are going to have is your kid is likely not athletic enough to do so. I’m not trying to be mean or dismissive. The best case scenario is not navigating the club system ideally but your kid getting bigger, stronger, or faster. Time in the weight room and hoping puberty works in your favor are the best bets. The D1 teams are primarily looking for kids that are athletic enough to play D1. They don’t care that much about the club team name. It’s just that the best players tend to sort in these clubs so the coaches are most likely to see them in their limited time. But in many ways your goal isn’t just to get better, but to showcase that you are a D1 level athlete. The club politics are just not a big part of this despite what many people think.

[Anonymous]

You don't need a club to be seen by a coach anymore. Every top program from D1 to D3 has paid prospect days where kids can pay and be seen in person. But is he truly good enough to play at Dream U? There are tens of thousands of kids playing HS lacrosse and these coaches are all looking to sign the same top few hundred. Encourage your kid to do his best. If it's his dream, let him chase it and support him by providing opportunities to play at a club or at school. There is no 1 right place or answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the high likelihood that madlax and DCE are going to have lots of defections this fall (due to playing time issues and their lackluster performance). I would expect them to have openings next year.

But where will all those DCE and Madlax players go?

Very good question. Believe it or not, some will cross over from one dumpster to the other. Players who are good enough to be in the top 15 on Next Level will go there. Players who THINK they are good enough will still go to NL but ride the bench or get put on the red team, and then immediately start complaining about DM and say he is no better than CM. The super stars, if there are any left on those teams, will invest the drive time and try the Hawks or Crabs. Many will talk a good game about leaving but stay where they are, and complain about the lack of options. I know VLC 2028 catches a lot of flack from the team a year or two ago, but if only they would announce a brand name coach (Schwartz, Dico, Z, or Cramp) for the 2028 team they would get a lot of the DCE and ML players, especially ones who live in VA and are headed to PVI this fall.

[Anonymous]

They did announce Dico as the VLC 2028 coach. After they announced him as the the 2029 coach. What year is he coaching now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the high likelihood that madlax and DCE are going to have lots of defections this fall (due to playing time issues and their lackluster performance). I would expect them to have openings next year.

But where will all those DCE and Madlax players go?

Very good question. Believe it or not, some will cross over from one dumpster to the other. Players who are good enough to be in the top 15 on Next Level will go there. Players who THINK they are good enough will still go to NL but ride the bench or get put on the red team, and then immediately start complaining about DM and say he is no better than CM. The super stars, if there are any left on those teams, will invest the drive time and try the Hawks or Crabs. Many will talk a good game about leaving but stay where they are, and complain about the lack of options. I know VLC 2028 catches a lot of flack from the team a year or two ago, but if only they would announce a brand name coach (Schwartz, Dico, Z, or Cramp) for the 2028 team they would get a lot of the DCE and ML players, especially ones who live in VA and are headed to PVI this fall.

Schwartz is now the PVI coach.
Dico is the 2027 Coach
Coach Z?
Cramp..... No thank you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is that if your kid is good enough to play at the highest level then he will be able to break through and get playing time on one of those teams. They will always make room for top talent. If he can’t get time on one of those teams he’s probably not good enough.

My theory is if you’re not getting playtime in ninth grade, you’re not getting better. So why try to break on to a team with 14 middies and 12 attack - just go to an under subscribed team or a new team like black wolf

I would stay away from Blackwolf if you have any moral compass.

[Anonymous]

If you want your son to get recruited listen to Paul Rabil: https://www.instagram.com/paulrabil/reel/C5obdWuv-_p/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the high likelihood that madlax and DCE are going to have lots of defections this fall (due to playing time issues and their lackluster performance). I would expect them to have openings next year.

But where will all those DCE and Madlax players go?

Very good question. Believe it or not, some will cross over from one dumpster to the other. Players who are good enough to be in the top 15 on Next Level will go there. Players who THINK they are good enough will still go to NL but ride the bench or get put on the red team, and then immediately start complaining about DM and say he is no better than CM. The super stars, if there are any left on those teams, will invest the drive time and try the Hawks or Crabs. Many will talk a good game about leaving but stay where they are, and complain about the lack of options. I know VLC 2028 catches a lot of flack from the team a year or two ago, but if only they would announce a brand name coach (Schwartz, Dico, Z, or Cramp) for the 2028 team they would get a lot of the DCE and ML players, especially ones who live in VA and are headed to PVI this fall.

Schwartz is now the PVI coach.
Dico is the 2027 Coach
Coach Z?
Cramp..... No thank you

Schwartz left the good 26 team and that's Cramp now. They don't have good candidates for the 28 team right now.
Dico is 27. 25, 27, and whatever 28 team they come up with will be very mid tier. 1-2 D1 at best and maybe 5-8 D3's. Nothing like the prime pre-merger days of VLC and getting close to True / TC levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the high likelihood that madlax and DCE are going to have lots of defections this fall (due to playing time issues and their lackluster performance). I would expect them to have openings next year.

But where will all those DCE and Madlax players go?

Very good question. Believe it or not, some will cross over from one dumpster to the other. Players who are good enough to be in the top 15 on Next Level will go there. Players who THINK they are good enough will still go to NL but ride the bench or get put on the red team, and then immediately start complaining about DM and say he is no better than CM. The super stars, if there are any left on those teams, will invest the drive time and try the Hawks or Crabs. Many will talk a good game about leaving but stay where they are, and complain about the lack of options. I know VLC 2028 catches a lot of flack from the team a year or two ago, but if only they would announce a brand name coach (Schwartz, Dico, Z, or Cramp) for the 2028 team they would get a lot of the DCE and ML players, especially ones who live in VA and are headed to PVI this fall.

100% agree with this - the loss of VLC has created a huge problem at 28. Right now there isn’t a mid tier team for the almost elite kids to go. If VLC doesn’t get this right next summer it’s gonna be a tough slog for the 28 class.

[Anonymous]

What should happen is someone should combine the dislists for Next Level, Madlax, and DC Express and collection divide the 70-80 kids into four teams of 18-20 and then everyone could get exposure rather than 20 or more of those kids rarely seeing the field

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What should happen is someone should combine the dislists for Next Level, Madlax, and DC Express and collection divide the 70-80 kids into four teams of 18-20 and then everyone could get exposure rather than 20 or more of those kids rarely seeing the field

From your lips to God’s ears.

[Anonymous]

If VLC or anyone else wants more players, they need fields on both sides of the River and much closer to the city. A very large percentage of NL, ml, and blc/dc families live within a couple miles of the beltway. If true got their act together, they have the resources to pull it off. Otherwise, it’s just gotten too expensive for clubs to pull it off. Ml has almost completely moved out of Md and Landon due to $. NL has the model: hire the school coaches and get their fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If VLC or anyone else wants more players, they need fields on both sides of the River and much closer to the city. A very large percentage of NL, ml, and blc/dc families live within a couple miles of the beltway. If true got their act together, they have the resources to pull it off. Otherwise, it’s just gotten too expensive for clubs to pull it off. Ml has almost completely moved out of Md and Landon due to $. NL has the model: hire the school coaches and get their fields.

Do the public high schools not rent out their fields? It seems like every team practices at private schools.