Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

Anonymous
What will we do when / if we find out that these detention centers are modern day concentration camps, and most in there are not dangerous/violently criminals. Can we live with ourselves as human beings?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The ICE chief shared in a hearing today - ICE has arrested 379,000 people between Jan. 2025-Jan. 2026 -- but only 8,700 were suspected gang members or known suspected terrorists.

That's 2%

What are we even doing?
Deporting illegals. ICE needs to step it up to get rid of millions Biden let in.


That’s your opinion. Recent polls show that a majority of Americans don’t share it.
Its not my opinion. We just had an election 15 months ago, it was the main issue. And it’s the only “poll” that really matters.

Your opinion that it was the main issue is wrong. The main issue was inflation/the economy. https://navigatorresearch.org/post-election-poll-the-issues-that-mattered-most-in-the-battleground/
Anonymous
One thing this social experiment has proven is that the US has plenty of money to spend on programs they want. If we have billions to spend on detention centers, then we certainly have enough money for paid parental leave, universal healthcare, fully funded schools, etc.

Don’t let anyone tell you that we don’t have enough. We’re purchasing empty warehouses for millions of dollars, and throwing billions at over militarized agencies to terrorize our neighbors. All while tanking the economy.
Anonymous
Does anyone know the number of unlawfully present individuals who have received a final order of removal? It was looking for numbers online and saw in 2024 it was 1.4 mil. Wouldn’t this be the group targeted for deportation? Not people with pending benefit applications unless they were found inadmissible?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One thing this social experiment has proven is that the US has plenty of money to spend on programs they want. If we have billions to spend on detention centers, then we certainly have enough money for paid parental leave, universal healthcare, fully funded schools, etc.

Don’t let anyone tell you that we don’t have enough. We’re purchasing empty warehouses for millions of dollars, and throwing billions at over militarized agencies to terrorize our neighbors. All while tanking the economy.


We are already spending more than enough on healthcare. It needs to be allocated differently to allow low income people to have more access and less profits to PE and big pharma, but healthcare does not need more money.

Same with schools. Per-pupil expenditures are among the highest in the world. The schools have enough funding. More of it needs to go to teacher pay (hire more teachers and pay them more) and less needs to go to ed tech and bloated administration. FCPS superintendent makes more than the President and has a full security detail. Whatever economies of scale that were achievable have been wiped out by huge bloated administrative salaries.

Paid parental leave should be a thing for all workers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What will we do when / if we find out that these detention centers are modern day concentration camps, and most in there are not dangerous/violently criminals. Can we live with ourselves as human beings?


This is why local people are fighting the warehouses purchased by ice in their communities- even in rural Pa which is (former) trump country- 450 signatures on a petition in record time to fight the sale of the warehouse to ICE.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ICE chief shared in a hearing today - ICE has arrested 379,000 people between Jan. 2025-Jan. 2026 -- but only 8,700 were suspected gang members or known suspected terrorists.

That's 2%

What are we even doing?


See, this is where the math is crazy. In the hearing they kept returning to the tens of thousands of rapists and other violent criminals and sex offenders, and the message from Trump has ALWAYS been that immigrants are criminals.
1) if they are all criminals, then why can't they arrest more who are?
2) why aren't they targeting those tens of thousands instead?

The very fact that these people who not get court appointed attorneys is proof that these do not involve criminal proceedings.

Also, they complained about sanctuary locations that release convicted criminals with ICE detainers when their sentences are complete. Well, shouldn't the question be why isn't ICE keeping track of this so they can pick them up? I'm not sure if all jurisdictions require corrections facilities to notify ICE of releases, but I do know that it is the policy in Minnesota and sometimes ICE doesn't show up.



And, keeping people beyond their sentence waiting for ICE arrives becomes a liability issue for the facility.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What will we do when / if we find out that these detention centers are modern day concentration camps, and most in there are not dangerous/violently criminals. Can we live with ourselves as human beings?


We already know that they are. We’ve seen video. We’ve heard from people that were given limited access. So limited that we can assume that those horrible conditions are likely the best that they could show.

Justice is going to be ugly for the people doing this.
Anonymous
Half a trillion dollars is indeed expensive.
Anonymous
Holy crap
Anonymous
We spent $32 million taxpayer dollars to deport 300 people, paid to corrupt regimes.

““A 30-page report from Senate Foreign Relations Committee Democrats, released on Thursday and shared with the Guardian, details how the US government paid more than $32m to five foreign governments – including some of the world’s most corrupt regimes – to accept approximately 300 third-country nationals deported from the US”

Excerpt From
“US paid $32m to five countries to accept about 300 deportees, report shows”
Joseph Gedeon, Andrew Roth
The Guardian
https://apple.news/Ao0xsnOGxTBGq3cj-0NobDw
This material may be protected by copyright.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Half a trillion dollars is indeed expensive.


Racism is expensive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the number of unlawfully present individuals who have received a final order of removal? It was looking for numbers online and saw in 2024 it was 1.4 mil. Wouldn’t this be the group targeted for deportation? Not people with pending benefit applications unless they were found inadmissible?


One can be lawfully present and have an order of deportation.

IMO if you are going to go out and protest ICE you should at least take a few minutes to understand how people- legally (with a visa) or illegally present - can get an order of deportation.

One way that can affect the most average normal person is that immigration law has its own definition of felony and it doesn’t have to match the definition of state or local law. It’s very easy for someone to get arrested for something minor , get a 12 month jail sentence, have almost all the sentence suspended, and as a result be immediately deportable. One has to make sure they have a lawyer who is knowledge of both criminal and immigration law.

And yes these persons are criminals bc they committed a crime. However I feel the majority of people felt ‘targeting criminals’ meant those who committed murder, etc not the person living down the street who has a kid, spouse, and job but made a mistake when the were younger by shoplifting and never did anything else wrong were the kind of people to be targeted. But they are targeted because they are easy, the already has an order of removal.

So if an ICE protestor really was sincere in helping, they would being doing something worthwhile like making sure the local community had knowledge public defenders of immigration law, they would help those facing charges understand the impact of their case and outcome on their immigration status, and they would work to change the immigration law. All of these things or just one of the would have a far greater impact that screaming at ICE in the streets
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What will we do when / if we find out that these detention centers are modern day concentration camps, and most in there are not dangerous/violently criminals. Can we live with ourselves as human beings?


Tell us how to stop it.
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