UVA--Sullivan vs. BOV

Anonymous
How has the turmoil at UVA affected your view of the school if you are--the family of a hopeful applicant, a newly accepted student, alum?
Anonymous
The UVA brand is diminishing.
Anonymous
As a VT grad, I have a bias--of course VT is the best! All kidding aside, though, I think that the UVA situation is very unfortunate. As I have seen with VT, it went from a relatively unknown state school with good science programs to a "football" school and now it is considered a cursed school with the recent sad events. UVA was once among the best state schools but lots of state schools are attracting very bright kids (probably because of the high cost of private school tuition) and relative to other state schools, UVA is no longer the first among equals. That is probably something UVA can't control. However, the recent events with the two lacrosse players and the girl who disappeared at the Metallica concert and now this scandal with the President does mean UVA has been in the headlines a lot for reasons other than its stellar academics. It can be tough to shake the negative impressions.
OTOH, it is a fantastic school and I think lots of kids will still go there even though some bad stuff has happened recently.
Anonymous
Keep in mind that Paul Tudor Jones II, the moneybags pushing this from all indicators, is a convicted environmental criminal -- http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-04-16/news/1991106198_1_wetlands-ellen-paul-tudor --
and http://www.epa.gov/owow/wetlands/facts/fact15.html --
"Jones pleaded guilty [...] to a misdemeanor criminal charge for violating the Clean Water Act by negligently and illegally filling the Tudor Farms wetlands. He paid a $1 million fine and $1 million restitution to the government in a plea bargain."

Jones selected a 3,000 acre site in Dorchester County that bordered Chesapeake Bay tributaries and consisted largely of forested wetlands and tidal marshes. Despite his own consulting engineers repeatedly advising him that a Clean Water Act Section 404 permit would be required, extensive excavation and construction work was done, destroying wetlands at the site, without first obtaining a Section 404 permit.

Yeah, he's a real upstanding law-abiding citizen who should be pulling the puppet strings at what was once a well regarded institution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that Paul Tudor Jones II, the moneybags pushing this from all indicators, is a convicted environmental criminal -- http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-04-16/news/1991106198_1_wetlands-ellen-paul-tudor --
and http://www.epa.gov/owow/wetlands/facts/fact15.html --
"Jones pleaded guilty [...] to a misdemeanor criminal charge for violating the Clean Water Act by negligently and illegally filling the Tudor Farms wetlands. He paid a $1 million fine and $1 million restitution to the government in a plea bargain."

Jones selected a 3,000 acre site in Dorchester County that bordered Chesapeake Bay tributaries and consisted largely of forested wetlands and tidal marshes. Despite his own consulting engineers repeatedly advising him that a Clean Water Act Section 404 permit would be required, extensive excavation and construction work was done, destroying wetlands at the site, without first obtaining a Section 404 permit.

Yeah, he's a real upstanding law-abiding citizen who should be pulling the puppet strings at what was once a well regarded institution.


Hey, treehugger. This has nothing to do with Sullivan. Don't hijack to push your own greenpeace agenda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that Paul Tudor Jones II, the moneybags pushing this from all indicators, is a convicted environmental criminal -- http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-04-16/news/1991106198_1_wetlands-ellen-paul-tudor --
and http://www.epa.gov/owow/wetlands/facts/fact15.html --
"Jones pleaded guilty [...] to a misdemeanor criminal charge for violating the Clean Water Act by negligently and illegally filling the Tudor Farms wetlands. He paid a $1 million fine and $1 million restitution to the government in a plea bargain."

Jones selected a 3,000 acre site in Dorchester County that bordered Chesapeake Bay tributaries and consisted largely of forested wetlands and tidal marshes. Despite his own consulting engineers repeatedly advising him that a Clean Water Act Section 404 permit would be required, extensive excavation and construction work was done, destroying wetlands at the site, without first obtaining a Section 404 permit.

Yeah, he's a real upstanding law-abiding citizen who should be pulling the puppet strings at what was once a well regarded institution.


Hey, treehugger. This has nothing to do with Sullivan. Don't hijack to push your own greenpeace agenda.


Hey sanctimonious asshole. I'm a law enforcement professional and non-Greenpeace member who believes that people ought to know who they're dealing with.

One of the main operators behind the scenes here (not so behind the scenes since he wrote an idiotic op-ed claiming to know that Jefferson would have fired the UVA Pres.) has a shady past and willfully disregarded the law when his consultants told him he couldn't do what he wanted.

That kind of arrogance is clearly playing out again here, whether you like it or not.

So stop trying the b.s. smokescreen and diverting from a legitimate issue -- the presumptuous arrogance of the players here.
Anonymous
The interim president is the dean of the McIntire School of Commerce, in case there was any doubt about the direction Dragas wants to take the school.

I think it's fine to have a school that cares about the bottom line more than anything else. I just didn't think UVa wanted to be that school.
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