Trump's 25 Sexual Assault Victims Thread

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

*************** DAY ELEVEN **************
********** MELINDA MCGILLIVRAY **********

[Anonymous]

Allegations:

Melinda "Mindy" McGillivray told the Palm Beach Post in October 2016 that Trump grabbed her buttocks while they were backstage during a Ray Charles concert at Mar-a-Lago in 2003.

Ken Davidoff, a photographer present at the concert, said McGillivray, then 23, approached him soon after the incident and said, "Donald just grabbed my a--!"

McGillivray spoke out again on "Megyn Kelly Today" in December, calling for a congressional investigation into the accusations of sexual misconduct against Trump.

"He has to face the music; he can't get away with this," McGillivray said. "I want justice."

Trump's response:

The Post reported that Trump did not respond to requests for comment concerning McGillivray's accusation, but the president has broadly denied all of the sexual misconduct accusations made against him.

"The timing and absurdity of these false claims speaks volumes and the publicity tour that has begun only further confirms the political motives behind them," White House press secretary Sanders said after the TV appearance in December.

[Anonymous]

Oh, come on.

"She said she initially thought her friend's camera bag brushed against her, but quickly realized it was actually Trump's hand."

Not credible at all.
She is claiming he grabbed her buttocks. But, initially thought it was a camera bag?
Camera bags don't grab.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/12/president-trump-insists-he-hasnt-met-sexual-misconduct-accusers-melinda-mcgillivray-recounts-her-sto/943761001/

She is an opportunist.

[Anonymous]

On Megyn Kelly TODAY, Melinda McGillivray demanded an investigation.

https://youtu.be/CyRzsi6nnFA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, come on.

"She said she initially thought her friend's camera bag brushed against her, but quickly realized it was actually Trump's hand."

Not credible at all.
She is claiming he grabbed her buttocks. But, initially thought it was a camera bag?
Camera bags don't grab.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/12/president-trump-insists-he-hasnt-met-sexual-misconduct-accusers-melinda-mcgillivray-recounts-her-sto/943761001/

She is an opportunist.

What is she getting out of it? What is she promoting? With proof, please.

McGillivray says in the clip that she's a "family woman" and she's doing this for her daughters and for her self-respect.

[Anonymous]

The latest woman’s accusation to be disproven is from Mindy McGillivray. She claimed that she “felt a grab, a little nudge” standing in front of Donald Trump at a Ray Charles concert on January 24, 2003. Her associate who was standing next to her claimed he “did not witness the alleged groping”. Somehow a grab and a nudge turned into a grope — when asked to explain the incident 13 years later she said, “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab. It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.’’
Mindy explained that one of the reasons she didn’t say anything at the time was the fact that Trump was engaged to Melania at the time — but the reality is they didn’t get engaged to the next year. More damning is the fact that the event never took place — Trump saw Ray Charles three weeks before the date Mindy claimed the “grope” occured.

https://medium.com/les-deplorables/another-woman-destroyed-so-hillary-clinton-can-become-president-22206afc4f9c

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The latest woman’s accusation to be disproven is from Mindy McGillivray. She claimed that she “felt a grab, a little nudge” standing in front of Donald Trump at a Ray Charles concert on January 24, 2003. Her associate who was standing next to her claimed he “did not witness the alleged groping”. Somehow a grab and a nudge turned into a grope — when asked to explain the incident 13 years later she said, “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab. It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.’’
Mindy explained that one of the reasons she didn’t say anything at the time was the fact that Trump was engaged to Melania at the time — but the reality is they didn’t get engaged to the next year. More damning is the fact that the event never took place — Trump saw Ray Charles three weeks before the date Mindy claimed the “grope” occured.

https://medium.com/les-deplorables/another-woman-destroyed-so-hillary-clinton-can-become-president-22206afc4f9c

If all you've got is "Publius Americanus," a right wingnut Trump groping apologist, you ain't got much.

PA claims that McGillivray's associate didn't directly witness the groping, but Ken Davidoff, the "associate" in question, confirmed to the press that she told him immediately afterwards.

But her companion that day, photographer Ken Davidoff, vividly remembers when McGillivray pulled him aside moments after the alleged incident and told him, ″Donald just grabbed my ass!″

Also, a camera bag doesn't grab your butt.

Asked about the possibility that what she felt was Trump or someone accidentally bumping into her, McGillivray said no. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,″ she said. “It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.″

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20161012/palm-beach-post-exclusive-local-woman-says-trump-groped-her

[Anonymous]

‘I'm a real person. I'm not perfect,’ she said, sitting on a couch with her 15-year-old daughter, Corina. ‘I need to expose my ugly side. This isn't for money. This isn't for fame. This is to be honest with her.’” (Palm Beach Post, October 15, 2016)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, come on.

"She said she initially thought her friend's camera bag brushed against her, but quickly realized it was actually Trump's hand."

Not credible at all.
She is claiming he grabbed her buttocks. But, initially thought it was a camera bag?
Camera bags don't grab.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/12/president-trump-insists-he-hasnt-met-sexual-misconduct-accusers-melinda-mcgillivray-recounts-her-sto/943761001/

She is an opportunist.

You’re a broken record. You’ve literally said that for every single woman on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, come on.

"She said she initially thought her friend's camera bag brushed against her, but quickly realized it was actually Trump's hand."

Not credible at all.
She is claiming he grabbed her buttocks. But, initially thought it was a camera bag?
Camera bags don't grab.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/12/12/president-trump-insists-he-hasnt-met-sexual-misconduct-accusers-melinda-mcgillivray-recounts-her-sto/943761001/

She is an opportunist.

You’re a broken record. You’ve literally said that for every single woman on this thread.

+1. “Opportunist” pp is probably the poster who insists Dems are hypocrites for not believing Reade’s ever-changing stories. There are tons of inconsistencies in Reade’s stories, and these have been pointed out again and again on that other thread. Yet the best pp can do is call each and every one of Trump’s accusers an “opportunist”? It would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.

[Anonymous]

*************** DAY TWELVE **************
********** NATASHA STOYNOFF **********

[Anonymous]

Allegations:

People magazine reporter Natasha Stoynoff wrote in an October 2016 column that Trump sexually assaulted her in 2005 at Mar-a-Lago. Stoynoff was visiting Trump and his new wife, Melania, at their Florida estate to report on a story about the couple's first year of marriage.

While a pregnant Melania was changing clothes for a photoshoot, Trump offered to show Stoynoff a "tremendous" room at the resort.

"We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat," Stoynoff wrote.

She added that Trump told her they would have a sexual affair. "Have you ever been to Peter Luger's for steaks? I'll take you. We're going to have an affair, I'm telling you," he allegedly said.


Trump's response:

Trump denied the allegations, tweeting last year, "Why didn't the writer of the twelve year old article in People Magazine mention the 'incident' in her story. Because it did not happen!"

[Anonymous]

For the record, here's Stoynoff's People Magazine article on being attacked:

https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-attacked-people-writer/

[Anonymous]

Here's a bonus for today: Susan Faludi's New York Times opinion piece, "Believe All Women is a Right-Wing Trap."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/opinion/tara-reade-believe-all-women.html?searchResultPosition=2

The original For the next time a Con tries to argue that (1) the "all" was always a part of it, instead of "Believe women" or "Listen to all women," and (2) this somehow means we must discuss Kavanaugh instead of Trump's own victims.

In fact, “Believe All Women” does have an asterisk: *It’s never been feminist “boilerplate.” What we are witnessing is another instance of the right decrying what it imagines the American women’s movement to be.

Spend some mind-numbing hours tracking the origins of “Believe All Women” on social media sites and news databases — as I did — and you’ll discover how language, like a virus, can mutate overnight. All of a sudden, yesterday’s quotes suffer the insertion of some foreign DNA that makes them easy to weaponize. In this case, that foreign intrusion is a word: “all.”
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“It’s a very interesting rabbit hole,” Pablo Morales Henry, digital archivist at Harvard University’s Schlesinger Library, which maintains a collection of more than 30 million MeToo-related tweets, told me.
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Type in #BelieveAllWomen for 2017, when the #MeToo movement took off in October, and you get several dozen references, followed in 2018 (the year of the Kavanaugh hearings) by many more. But here’s the thing: I found that the hashtag is, by a wide margin, used mostly by its detractors.
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This is why “Believe All Women” is not an amplification of “Believe Women,” but its negation. As Mr. Morales Henry at the Schlesinger Library told me, after several days of analyzing the use of the two hashtags, “It looks like #BelieveAllWomen, especially recently, is being used in opposition to #BelieveWomen.” Its use spikes on occasions when allegations are made against a liberal politician — often with companion hashtags decrying a double standard.
The double-standard purity test operates in one direction only. Conservatives are unfazed by their own brazen hypocrisies; that’s not the game they’re playing. Kellyanne Conway claiming it’s “pro-woman” to “believe all women,” before walking back into that White House? Conservatives have been oddly immunized by their shamelessness.

I like to think of this thread as serving several purposes, including as a repository for useful stuff. This is good stuff!