Millennials aren't going to buy your ugly mcmansions, silly Boomers!

[Anonymous]

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No, they have a point. If you don't know how to use "sic," there are probably dozens of other things you don't understand.

Also, for as much as you McMansion owners say you love and are proud of your homes, you are obviously deeply insecure about them as some of you have a compulsive need to post frequently in defense of your homes as well as to attempt to denigrate the housing choices of others, but especially when you perceive someone can't afford your showy house.

I enjoy mocking McMansions as an idle, time-passing hobby in the car, a little habit I picked up in college as an architecture minor.

I don't think this is how the conversation went down, and your last line actually undermines your entire argument. I don't see McMansion owners posting thread after thread that no one wants your tiny urban homes, that city schools are bad, that urban housing is shit etc. The mocking and the attacks usually originate on the opposite side. The McMansion owners then start chiming in. I am bewildered why you think people wouldn't post in defense of something if that something is being attacked - unless you think that somehow they should be fair game to mock, but are not entitled to dish it out to you. I have no dog in this fight but have observed enough of these conversations. You say you enjoy mocking McMansions. So why pretend to be surprised when people respond? Do you think it's insecure? What is your mocking habit then?

[Anonymous]

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I don't know how on earth you've convinced yourself that it's millennials buying those homes, but I agree- let's stop navel gazing and go with statistics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/millennials-arent-buying-homes--good-for-them/2016/08/22/818793be-68a4-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html

Millennials aren't buying homes across the board, and I'm willing to wager good money that they weren't buying the majority of the McMansions in Loudon county. This is not about the CURRENT state of the housing market, which is primarily still driven by boomers and gen-x. This is about what the housing market will look like in 15, 20, 30 years.

If you want to stop navel gazing and have info that it was in fact millennials who bought the homes in Howard county, by all means, post it.

But no one knows that or can predict that with any degree of certainty. The current suburbs are packed with what used to be bright-eyed twenty-somethings roughing it up in the city. Thirty years from now milennials will be the same aging, stressed, adult people that 50-somethings are today. Times change. Things change. People change. Thirty years from now there will be another 20-something generation out in the world, just as convinced that it was them who invented all the cool things in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't know how on earth you've convinced yourself that it's millennials buying those homes, but I agree- let's stop navel gazing and go with statistics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/millennials-arent-buying-homes--good-for-them/2016/08/22/818793be-68a4-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html

Millennials aren't buying homes across the board, and I'm willing to wager good money that they weren't buying the majority of the McMansions in Loudon county. This is not about the CURRENT state of the housing market, which is primarily still driven by boomers and gen-x. This is about what the housing market will look like in 15, 20, 30 years.

If you want to stop navel gazing and have info that it was in fact millennials who bought the homes in Howard county, by all means, post it.

But no one knows that or can predict that with any degree of certainty. The current suburbs are packed with what used to be bright-eyed twenty-somethings roughing it up in the city. Thirty years from now milennials will be the same aging, stressed, adult people that 50-somethings are today. Times change. Things change. People change. Thirty years from now there will be another 20-something generation out in the world, just as convinced that it was them who invented all the cool things in life.

Actually, given current housing statistics and buying practices divided by age group, we can get a fairly accurate portrait of how things will look.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived in Gaithersburg for two years moved to the city and am never leaving if I can help it. I hated that commute. I want to spend my time doing things I enjoy v. commuting. I don't care what other people do or where they live.

So why are you on this thread? I call BS.

As do I, no one who could afford to move to the city lives in Gaithersburg

I disagree. I like Gaithersburg. The newer developments are nice. I can afford to live in the city but there is no amount of money in the world that could convince me to live there. I shudder at the thought of having to go into the city for drinks, a meeting, or a concert/sporting event.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is Gen X who owns the McMansions, I sure don't own a McMansion.

Agree - definitely in our neighborhood anyway. It seems like the tail end of the Gen Xers and possibly the front end of the Millennials who are snatching up the McMansions - not Boomers.

Snatching up McMansions that were already built? By the boomers? I'm solidly Gen-X, the McMansion trend was well underway when I was in Jr High. We were not the ones who started clearing large tracts of land to build 5000 square foot houses for families of four. Boomers are aging out of them now, some people still want them, more don't.

And the sorry Millennials, you weren't the first to rediscover the joys of city living. I moved to DC 18 years ago it and have stayed because we love living in the city and don't need a huge house or want a long commute. Most of my friend feel that way, wherever they live, big city or small college town. I can count the McMansion owners in my life on one hand.

But sure, take credit for a demographic shift that started when you were in pull-ups. Maybe you'll get a trophy. If not, your mommy can call.

we must be similar in age and I also moved to DC 18 years ago, but most of my friends live in really big houses in the suburbs and we're the outliers. on our block in the city, i'd say about 40% are boomers who've been here forever, 20% Gen X and 40% millennials.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason they're not buying those is because they can't afford them.

Not true. We are not buying them because they are wasteful and unnecessary. We are smarter. Sorry.

Speak for yourself. 31 YO Millenial here. My 2500 SF current house doesn't qualify as McMansion, but I hope to one day afford a larger house. Obviously quality and location matters. Not all large houses are poorly constructed, but I understand that jealously issues often cause "McMansion snobs" to qualify anything large as tasteless and poor quality. If this is not you then I am not talking about you. Is it wasteful to me? No. I have lots of hobbies that take up space. I'd love the kids to have their own areas they can mess up so my living room isn't in a perpetual state of chaos. I love the idea of a large-ish piece of land with good trees and landscaping so I'm not facing the brick wall of my neighbor's house when I look out of my window. You might think this is "wasteful" and gouche but alas, I know what I want and I don't care what people think.

[Anonymous]

The obsession with McMansions on this board is weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't know how on earth you've convinced yourself that it's millennials buying those homes, but I agree- let's stop navel gazing and go with statistics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/millennials-arent-buying-homes--good-for-them/2016/08/22/818793be-68a4-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html

Millennials aren't buying homes across the board, and I'm willing to wager good money that they weren't buying the majority of the McMansions in Loudon county. This is not about the CURRENT state of the housing market, which is primarily still driven by boomers and gen-x. This is about what the housing market will look like in 15, 20, 30 years.

If you want to stop navel gazing and have info that it was in fact millennials who bought the homes in Howard county, by all means, post it.

But no one knows that or can predict that with any degree of certainty. The current suburbs are packed with what used to be bright-eyed twenty-somethings roughing it up in the city. Thirty years from now milennials will be the same aging, stressed, adult people that 50-somethings are today. Times change. Things change. People change. Thirty years from now there will be another 20-something generation out in the world, just as convinced that it was them who invented all the cool things in life.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't know how on earth you've convinced yourself that it's millennials buying those homes, but I agree- let's stop navel gazing and go with statistics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/millennials-arent-buying-homes--good-for-them/2016/08/22/818793be-68a4-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html

Millennials aren't buying homes across the board, and I'm willing to wager good money that they weren't buying the majority of the McMansions in Loudon county. This is not about the CURRENT state of the housing market, which is primarily still driven by boomers and gen-x. This is about what the housing market will look like in 15, 20, 30 years.

If you want to stop navel gazing and have info that it was in fact millennials who bought the homes in Howard county, by all means, post it.

But no one knows that or can predict that with any degree of certainty. The current suburbs are packed with what used to be bright-eyed twenty-somethings roughing it up in the city. Thirty years from now milennials will be the same aging, stressed, adult people that 50-somethings are today. Times change. Things change. People change. Thirty years from now there will be another 20-something generation out in the world, just as convinced that it was them who invented all the cool things in life.

+1000

I disagree. There are neighborhoods all across DC full of middle class and umc families. One generation ago you wouldn't have set foot in these neighborhoods. There's been a huge shift and wave of gentrification in DC. Now moving to the burbs isn't the only option for families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't know how on earth you've convinced yourself that it's millennials buying those homes, but I agree- let's stop navel gazing and go with statistics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/millennials-arent-buying-homes--good-for-them/2016/08/22/818793be-68a4-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html

Millennials aren't buying homes across the board, and I'm willing to wager good money that they weren't buying the majority of the McMansions in Loudon county. This is not about the CURRENT state of the housing market, which is primarily still driven by boomers and gen-x. This is about what the housing market will look like in 15, 20, 30 years.

If you want to stop navel gazing and have info that it was in fact millennials who bought the homes in Howard county, by all means, post it.

But no one knows that or can predict that with any degree of certainty. The current suburbs are packed with what used to be bright-eyed twenty-somethings roughing it up in the city. Thirty years from now milennials will be the same aging, stressed, adult people that 50-somethings are today. Times change. Things change. People change. Thirty years from now there will be another 20-something generation out in the world, just as convinced that it was them who invented all the cool things in life.

+1000

I disagree. There are neighborhoods all across DC full of middle class and umc families. One generation ago you wouldn't have set foot in these neighborhoods. There's been a huge shift and wave of gentrification in DC. Now moving to the burbs isn't the only option for families.

Well thank god there are options, because we've seen a tremendous population boom. People have to live somewhere, and it appears they live all over, in all manner of housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The obsession with McMansions on this board is weird.

Real estate porn, my dear

[Anonymous]

This thread is too long and getting boring. A summary of the players:

1. The millennials love the city now but many of them -- despite their protests here -- will likely want to move to the burbs when they have kids (or older kids)

2. There are lot's of folks posting here (boomers, Xers, etc.) who live in big houses in the outer burbs and are desperately trying to justify living in an area that is becoming less and less attractive/appealing to anyone.

3. There are other folks posting here who live in big houses in the inner burbs (CC, Bethesda, Arlington) that will always be attractive to new folks with lot's of money.

4. There are other folks posting here who envy #3 above and will never be able to afford those houses, and thus, consistently try to lump all big houses together as McMansions.

Am I missing anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The obsession with McMansions on this board is weird.

Real estate is the weirdest board on DCUM. Way weirder than even Explicit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is too long and getting boring. A summary of the players:

1. The millennials love the city now but many of them -- despite their protests here -- will likely want to move to the burbs when they have kids (or older kids)

2. There are lot's of folks posting here (boomers, Xers, etc.) who live in big houses in the outer burbs and are desperately trying to justify living in an area that is becoming less and less attractive/appealing to anyone.

3. There are other folks posting here who live in big houses in the inner burbs (CC, Bethesda, Arlington) that will always be attractive to new folks with lot's of money.

4. There are other folks posting here who envy #3 above and will never be able to afford those houses, and thus, consistently try to lump all big houses together as McMansions.

Am I missing anyone?

well done!

[Anonymous]

They really won't have a choice. 99% of housing built in the last 20 years are McMansions.