2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?

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You forgot this nugget:

The classes of ’25, ’26 and beyond could have it rougher because artificial intelligence could come to perform some of the functions of new hires, knocking out the lowest rungs on the career ladder.

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Anonymous wrote:We know two econ/math majors graduating from Yale and Princeton, both have landed jobs in investment banking and at hedge funds.

My husband’s niece will be graduating from Penn State and has real estate marketing job lined up.

as they sing on Sesame Street, one of these things is not like the others..

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About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

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Anonymous wrote:About to graduate from Brown CS major and received a rescind email from the employer. Back to the square one.

Wow, that’s rough. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)

Civil engineering. It's not DCUM money but it's stable, and jobs are not easily off-shored or affected by AI. Your physical infrastructure is local, and you have to do a lot community outreach and engagement (which works best with people, not AI).

I understand physically building what the civil engineer designs is not easily lost to AI…but wouldn’t AI make an experienced civil engineer significantly more productive in terms of what they do?

I really don't see it. Civil engineering design is not like data science, so much of it is iterative and specific to local conditions. And the local conditions (e.g. acquisition of data) requires coordination with lots of stakeholders like public agencies, private land owners, utilities, etc. The actual "draw your design in CAD" work is just a minor piece of it all.

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed that how attractive/put together someone also is leading to job offers more so than 5-10 years ago

the whole adorkable/hipster/"i'm too cool for being presentable" phase is out

Absolutely, the athletes at D3 schools can do well, partially because of team connections, but also they tend to be in shape and extroverted - good for sales/client management roles.

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My nephew at UC Berkeley is graduating this year with a CS major and still looking for a job. My sister said the kids in the top 10% of the CS class, or those with family connections, seem to have jobs lined up. It's a tough market out there. It's even hard to get into a decent grad program if you're not in the top of the class. My sister advised my DC, if grad school is the goal, that going to a top, competitive undergrad could be more difficult to get into grad school than going to a mid, respectable undergrad due to the peer comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

Who makes AI work?

AI could teach AI.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)

What are favorite subjects and topics?

Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…

Yeah but that’s Dartmouth and Yale. There are maybe 10-15 schools where Anthropology majors can go into lucrative fields. Even at good school schools like Michigan and UVA, Anthropology majors are not going to be getting into consulting or finance unless they’re very connected or a varsity athlete.

My dd is getting an anthropology degree at UVA and has had great internships each year, all in nonprofit though. I suspect she will graduate next year with a great job though she is not gonna be doing soulless consulting work for sure.

lol. Anthropology. She will not be getting a job that doesn't have a uniform with a paper hat.

Seems like the social science majors are doing just fine employment-wise. Anthropologists often have strong research methods training and understanding of people/organizations--they often get hired by research firms and HR departments.

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

Who makes AI work?

AI could teach AI.

And who is going to make the teacher AI work?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)

What are favorite subjects and topics?

Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…

Yeah but that’s Dartmouth and Yale. There are maybe 10-15 schools where Anthropology majors can go into lucrative fields. Even at good school schools like Michigan and UVA, Anthropology majors are not going to be getting into consulting or finance unless they’re very connected or a varsity athlete.

My dd is getting an anthropology degree at UVA and has had great internships each year, all in nonprofit though. I suspect she will graduate next year with a great job though she is not gonna be doing soulless consulting work for sure.

lol. Anthropology. She will not be getting a job that doesn't have a uniform with a paper hat.

Seems like the social science majors are doing just fine employment-wise. Anthropologists often have strong research methods training and understanding of people/organizations--they often get hired by research firms and HR departments.

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It’s the computer science majors who are getting their offers rescinded…

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)

What are favorite subjects and topics?

Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…

Yeah but that’s Dartmouth and Yale. There are maybe 10-15 schools where Anthropology majors can go into lucrative fields. Even at good school schools like Michigan and UVA, Anthropology majors are not going to be getting into consulting or finance unless they’re very connected or a varsity athlete.

My dd is getting an anthropology degree at UVA and has had great internships each year, all in nonprofit though. I suspect she will graduate next year with a great job though she is not gonna be doing soulless consulting work for sure.

lol. Anthropology. She will not be getting a job that doesn't have a uniform with a paper hat.

Seems like the social science majors are doing just fine employment-wise. Anthropologists often have strong research methods training and understanding of people/organizations--they often get hired by research firms and HR departments.

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It’s the computer science majors who are getting their offers rescinded…

uh.. read through the thread. It's other majors, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)

What are favorite subjects and topics?

Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…

Yeah but that’s Dartmouth and Yale. There are maybe 10-15 schools where Anthropology majors can go into lucrative fields. Even at good school schools like Michigan and UVA, Anthropology majors are not going to be getting into consulting or finance unless they’re very connected or a varsity athlete.

My dd is getting an anthropology degree at UVA and has had great internships each year, all in nonprofit though. I suspect she will graduate next year with a great job though she is not gonna be doing soulless consulting work for sure.

lol. Anthropology. She will not be getting a job that doesn't have a uniform with a paper hat.

Seems like the social science majors are doing just fine employment-wise. Anthropologists often have strong research methods training and understanding of people/organizations--they often get hired by research firms and HR departments.

for almost minimum wage.

I almost minored in anthropology. Interesting field, but pay sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)

What are favorite subjects and topics?

Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…

Yeah but that’s Dartmouth and Yale. There are maybe 10-15 schools where Anthropology majors can go into lucrative fields. Even at good school schools like Michigan and UVA, Anthropology majors are not going to be getting into consulting or finance unless they’re very connected or a varsity athlete.

My dd is getting an anthropology degree at UVA and has had great internships each year, all in nonprofit though. I suspect she will graduate next year with a great job though she is not gonna be doing soulless consulting work for sure.

lol. Anthropology. She will not be getting a job that doesn't have a uniform with a paper hat.

Seems like the social science majors are doing just fine employment-wise. Anthropologists often have strong research methods training and understanding of people/organizations--they often get hired by research firms and HR departments.

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It’s the computer science majors who are getting their offers rescinded…

uh.. read through the thread. It's other majors, too.

I did. Seems overwhelmingly tech related.

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

Who makes AI work?

AI could teach AI.

And who is going to make the teacher AI work?

You still need highly specialized CS with AI knowledge but will be fewer and fewer.
That’s why technology CEOs are talking about universal minimum income conversation.