London is HORRIBLE

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I feel bad for the PPs who think the food is horrible in London and can only eat Indian food there because all else is horrible. They might enjoy this highly rated takeaway not anywhere near Mayfair, Indian Greedy Cow

4.0 on TripAdvisor

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Anonymous wrote:Op, sounds like you don’t have any friends there. I can relate. I’ve lived all over the world and had very different experiences in each city. The cities I loved, I had a great social life. The one city I really struggled (Seattle of all places) I just hated so much.

I don’t see her making any either

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Anonymous wrote:I LOVE London. Chic, great shopping, great fun vibe. People are mean as sh*t in a very polite way. It's actually kind of weird. British food is disgusting, but there are so many other options! Love the place. Would move in a minute.

Eat Indian subcontinent food there. That is the only decent and affordable food there.

BTW - England became a developed nation because of how they looted 45 trillion dollars worth of materials from India during their colonial rule.

Without India to loot, they have become a shithole country. A small country of shopkeepers. And the poverty there is another level now. Unwashed brits with yellow teeth, unwashed clothes and dirty fingernails, unable to afford air-conditioning and eating baked beans from a can.

Let me guess, you watched a YouTube video. The 45 trillion figure floating around on social media (what a joke) is based on England displacing the Indian textile industry, because England mechanized and India could no longer compete with handlooms. They did not take 45 trillion dollars worth of goods. Nor is outcompeting a country "stealing" from them.

Are you actually saying that Britain did not steal from India?! Because that is pretty well documented.

Yawn

So you agree, the British Imperialists were bullies.

American imported, kept and fought over the right to retain MILLIONS of slaves.
not just exploited a country from an economic pov (which they ALSO DO)
but kept, as a matter of course, slaves in their domestic country, based on race.
so winning any ethical argument on this basis is unlikely in the next several hundred years. GL tho - nice try.

Even for dcum the posters on this thread are the next level, seek help, in the throes of a mental health crisis. Spewing word salads about enskaved peoples in relation to why they hate London (the feeling is mutual) just seems kind of … hotline mental crisis territory. I have never advanced a mental health theory on dcum but genuinely go seek help you lunatic

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Anonymous wrote:I never want to hear people say how great London is or London is better than dc.

1. Housing is atrocious. We are living in a roughly 2 million pound flat in Mayfair and the plumbing is awful, the insulation/windows are awful and we are always cold (and we are used to Montana cold but homes in London are cold whereas in the us homes stay warm). Our colleagues here have homes anywhere between 500k to 6 million pounds here in various neighborhoods and they are all dumpy

This is correct. I don't know why they have not yet learned to install tight windows and doors and to insulate their homes. They prefer wasting energy at high costs.

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Most companies that pay based on labor costs (rather than cost of living) also pay lower in London than the biggest US markets.

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Indian Greedy Cow is great and delivers to Mayfair

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Londoner here and I sort of agree with you. The quality of the housing is poorer - and it's all so tiny. Everything is also a bit dirty. I also agree about the work culture, but overall the people have a better sense of humour and fun and are far less work obsessed/self important.

The parks and food are incredible though, US food can't come close - in price, or taste. Groceries are far cheaper here and better quality. Many posters are also right in pointing out Mayfair as a place where $2 million isn't all that special - a similar budget in Hampstead, Wimbledon, Clapham, etc will yield vastly better results.

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American Londoner here too. I don’t blame people for feeling London could be a bit foreclosed to them because you really need to know people, be a member of various private clubs and just generally move comfortably. I am concerned though by the revelations of inner thoughts and hatred that spilled forth over these 17 pages and don’t think the cosmopolitan London is the right place for them or perhaps really anywhere other their small insular community or zone of comfort.

There is no arguing that London is objectively one of the most glorious places on Earth. England is also a birthplace of the modern parliamentary system and important human rights such as habeas corpus.

I feel sadness and pitty for the OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a complex relationship with London. I lived there in the 1990s and a again for a few years in the early 2000s and loved it. These days it's changed so much, some for the better and others in just different ways. The mass migration means it's really no longer a British city it was 30 years ago. The demographic changes are staggering and I don't think I've see any other place undergo the same scale of population changes. So the neighborhoods I once loved aren't the same any more, they're either colonized by the very rich and boring, like Mayfair and Kensington, or well, just not British any more.

On the other hand, it is safer and cleaner. Massive gentrification has cleaned up large parts of London but it's also meant London is extremely unaffordable.

It's always been very expensive. And it's always been a widely criticized city for lack of charm. But the museums are still excellent, if a bit woke these days. The shopping can be great. Dining out is more expensive than it's worth it but my friends still in London are excellent cooks and have access to excellent ingredients.

I don't have much of a desire to revisit London for longer than a day or two to see old friends before going elsewhere. London is the one place that makes me feel "no country for old men." But I readily recognize that for others it's still a thriving and fascinating city.

in what universe is london 'widely criticized for lack of charm'???
it is one of the most charming big cities there is.
i could understand if you said frankfurt/ dresden/ riyadh/ lagos/ akron/ birmingham/ indianapolis or the entirety of new jersey. but LONDON is widely criticized for lack of charm? plz

It's not the prettiest city. There's no shortage of travel accounts of the lack of charm or poor food or pollution in London going back centuries. Even John Adams complained about the food in London in the 18th century.

oh well if john adams complained about the food in the 18th century then we should certainly assume that nothing has changed 300 years later. that tracks.

I don’t think London has discovered salt or seasoning for their food in those 300 years. So yup, it tracks!

Mooo, moooo

I thought it might be easier to respond in your native language.

Moooooooooooo!

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I can only conclude from this discussion that (a) most of the posters have absolutely no idea that there is a vast difference between living in and visiting a place, (b) too many base their expectations on the picture perfect depictions of historic cities and places on television shows or movies, (c) if you have the mindset where not having the latest laundry appliances or having to use a different payment app is a big deal, then you should probably stick closer to home.

I should add that if any country’s historical wrongdoings weigh so heavily on you that you can’t enjoy the place as it is now, then you really shouldn’t travel to 80% of the world (and probably most of your own country).

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Anonymous wrote:I can only conclude from this discussion that (a) most of the posters have absolutely no idea that there is a vast difference between living in and visiting a place, (b) too many base their expectations on the picture perfect depictions of historic cities and places on television shows or movies, (c) if you have the mindset where not having the latest laundry appliances or having to use a different payment app is a big deal, then you should probably stick closer to home.

I should add that if any country’s historical wrongdoings weigh so heavily on you that you can’t enjoy the place as it is now, then you really shouldn’t travel to 80% of the world (and probably most of your own country).

Puh-lease with the superiority complex and your inane conclusions.
No one has problems with historical doings, only your gaslighting of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a complex relationship with London. I lived there in the 1990s and a again for a few years in the early 2000s and loved it. These days it's changed so much, some for the better and others in just different ways. The mass migration means it's really no longer a British city it was 30 years ago. The demographic changes are staggering and I don't think I've see any other place undergo the same scale of population changes. So the neighborhoods I once loved aren't the same any more, they're either colonized by the very rich and boring, like Mayfair and Kensington, or well, just not British any more.

On the other hand, it is safer and cleaner. Massive gentrification has cleaned up large parts of London but it's also meant London is extremely unaffordable.

It's always been very expensive. And it's always been a widely criticized city for lack of charm. But the museums are still excellent, if a bit woke these days. The shopping can be great. Dining out is more expensive than it's worth it but my friends still in London are excellent cooks and have access to excellent ingredients.

I don't have much of a desire to revisit London for longer than a day or two to see old friends before going elsewhere. London is the one place that makes me feel "no country for old men." But I readily recognize that for others it's still a thriving and fascinating city.

in what universe is london 'widely criticized for lack of charm'???
it is one of the most charming big cities there is.
i could understand if you said frankfurt/ dresden/ riyadh/ lagos/ akron/ birmingham/ indianapolis or the entirety of new jersey. but LONDON is widely criticized for lack of charm? plz

It's not the prettiest city. There's no shortage of travel accounts of the lack of charm or poor food or pollution in London going back centuries. Even John Adams complained about the food in London in the 18th century.

oh well if john adams complained about the food in the 18th century then we should certainly assume that nothing has changed 300 years later. that tracks.

I don’t think London has discovered salt or seasoning for their food in those 300 years. So yup, it tracks!

Mooo, moooo

I thought it might be easier to respond in your native language.

Moooooooooooo!

And this, DCUM, is what Londoners are really like. But they never have the guts to say things in person, instead they hide behind an anonymous forum.

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Anonymous wrote:I can only conclude from this discussion that (a) most of the posters have absolutely no idea that there is a vast difference between living in and visiting a place, (b) too many base their expectations on the picture perfect depictions of historic cities and places on television shows or movies, (c) if you have the mindset where not having the latest laundry appliances or having to use a different payment app is a big deal, then you should probably stick closer to home.

I should add that if any country’s historical wrongdoings weigh so heavily on you that you can’t enjoy the place as it is now, then you really shouldn’t travel to 80% of the world (and probably most of your own country).

Puh-lease with the superiority complex and your inane conclusions.
No one has problems with historical doings, only your gaslighting of them.

I would love for you to point out what is inane or why you think I have a superiority complex. I also have not made any previous posts on people's comments about history.