More skills based grading at madison hs

[Anonymous]

Kids used to be self-sufficient in highschool before this grading system. I mean they would do work on their own by the time they were in highschool. Now parents have to go into schoology and be on their kids 24/7 about doing the work. "WHy didn't you submit this assignment in class today?" "Uh, I don't know" "Is it because it didn't count?" Kid sheepishly looking at the ground.


I'm talking about classwork!!! Forget about homework, which is basically non-existent anyway even in honors classes. Good job Calvert & crew. You took something that was pretty good and tore it down and made it into something not so great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids used to be self-sufficient in highschool before this grading system. I mean they would do work on their own by the time they were in highschool. Now parents have to go into schoology and be on their kids 24/7 about doing the work. "WHy didn't you submit this assignment in class today?" "Uh, I don't know" "Is it because it didn't count?" Kid sheepishly looking at the ground.


I'm talking about classwork!!! Forget about homework, which is basically non-existent anyway even in honors classes. Good job Calvert & crew. You took something that was pretty good and tore it down and made it into something not so great.

It’s all part of Reid’s plan. SBG which is sound in theory and been around for decades gets bastardized by school systems today to close the achievement gap. The process is made exceptionally confusing and convoluted to keep parents and teachers off guard.

Don't worry though by the time final grades roll around it will be alright. A good number of Cs and Bs with a few As sprinkled in, and few if any Ds or Fs.

Achievement gap closed. Superintendent and principals get rewarded, teachers and parents frustrated and kids off to second tier colleges.

I get this post will upset many the flaming will begin, but come back in June and tell me what I got wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

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Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

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Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

Once again, this isn’t homework. This is classwork which I already know you’ve said your junior boy doesn’t need to do anyway. That kind of privilege must be nice if you can provide multiple opportunities for him to succeed in college.

[Anonymous]

The principal of Madison said she talked to some colleges about her grading system and they said, don’t worry, we’ll put the kids where they need to be. I’m sure they don’t care if it takes your kid 5-6 years to graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

What happens when these kids get to college and have to deal with problem sets and the like? Why aren’t we encouraging them to work over the course of a quarter and turn in all their work? That aligns more with typical work expectations than this SBG nonsense!

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Anonymous wrote:The principal of Madison said she talked to some colleges about her grading system and they said, don’t worry, we’ll put the kids where they need to be. I’m sure they don’t care if it takes your kid 5-6 years to graduate.

I would not put much faith in anything Liz Calvert or Michelle Reid have to say.

[Anonymous]

Has the Madison admin ever said why they changed the grading system?

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Anonymous wrote:Has the Madison admin ever said why they changed the grading system?

I've heard them talk about how they worked on this process for years, and they used to talk about a Madison alumni - I can't remember his name - but I remember even Hood talking about him and "deeper learning." Basically, he's some tech guy that made money and now acts like some kind of salesman for his ideas that have something to do with education in this country being based on producing factory workers and we need to be educating creative citizens.

This isn't even true, because elementary education used to be geared to giving people the tools they needed for life:literacy, writing well, math skills, ect... People that were on a college track were going beyond this and weren't being educated to be factory workers. I think in elementary, rote learning can be very useful and even provide the foundation for deeper learning, but rote learning and memorization are now considered bad.

Madison has always experimented from what I hear, and there is nothing wrong with trying to do things better, but the best schools I've encountered are better because the administration goes out of their way to support teachers and take up as little of their time as possible with meetings and training so they can focus on teaching.

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Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

Once again, this isn’t homework. This is classwork which I already know you’ve said your junior boy doesn’t need to do anyway. That kind of privilege must be nice if you can provide multiple opportunities for him to succeed in college.

You are confusing posters.

If your kid is only doing the work because it’s being graded then you have bigger issues on your hands.

I can see it being an issue for lower performing kids, but that would increase the gap, not narrow it as PPs were claiming.

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Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

What happens when these kids get to college and have to deal with problem sets and the like? Why aren’t we encouraging them to work over the course of a quarter and turn in all their work? That aligns more with typical work expectations than this SBG nonsense!

Is the only way to do that by grading those assignments?

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Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

Once again, this isn’t homework. This is classwork which I already know you’ve said your junior boy doesn’t need to do anyway. That kind of privilege must be nice if you can provide multiple opportunities for him to succeed in college.

There are multiple people on this thread who have opinions contrary to yours. FYI.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

Like you? You sat this doesn't affect you but then are on here day after day? Why? Do you get off on it? Project much? People just want the old grading system. That's actually the opposite of complaining. You could say this change is a complaint. At any rate you have no business being in this discussion because you have no pros or cons for the old or the new system. Your posts contribute nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

Like you? You sat this doesn't affect you but then are on here day after day? Why? Do you get off on it? Project much? People just want the old grading system. That's actually the opposite of complaining. You could say this change is a complaint. At any rate you have no business being in this discussion because you have no pros or cons for the old or the new system. Your posts contribute nothing.

You sure are certain of things that are factually wrong. For instance, you are sure you are giving a smack down to one person when there are multiple people who disagree with you. But, I guess we should expect that. You see things ONE WAY and one way only. Fits a pattern.

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Anonymous wrote:ehh... my kid doesn't care THAT much about grades. Of course we want him to do his best, but we aren't getting our panties in a bunch just because they tweak the grading system a little one way or the other.

Apparently the grading system isn't "demotivating" him or others too much. My kid scored a perfect score on the PSAT math and did pretty well on the Reading/Writing section. And if you saw the other thread, apparently, 40% of kids have a 4.0! I doubt that the grading policy is demotivating kids so much that they aren't learning what they need to learn. AP exams and SAT scores are objective measures of kids learning material or not.

Just learn. Do your best. Live life and carry on.

That's wonderful we don't have to worry about your child with a perfect psat score for whatever grading is decided going forward. A huge relief.

Kids CAN learn with whatever grading policy is used. I know some of you like to think the grading policy is THE most important piece of educating kids. I just don't think it is. And apparently a lot of kids are doing quite well by objective measures (even if a few kids/parents don't think the quality of classroom discussion is up to par or that their kids feel "demotivated" by the system). Adapt, people.

Or not. Don't fix something if it aint broke. I don't like the new grading system. Very little if anything of benefit and a lot wrong with it. You've said nothing beneficial other than come on guys, why are you making my new proposal so tough to implement? There are no benefits and you admit your straight A kid isn't affected so why even post if you have no agenda? You have some agenda beyond your kid. That's certain. People care about other stuff. It's just that this is the change that is going on so we're having a discussion on it. That's the topic here.

My "agenda" is observing overly dramatic parents making mountains out of molehills, and encouraging parents to step back and get some perspective. Grading policy tweaks are not the be-all-and-end-all of education. Kids ARE learning. Somehow! Take a breather and let it go. Your kid will be alright even if they don't get a special award for doing it faster than someone else. Namasté!

+1

Having homework not count towards a final grade isn’t going to make all of the top-performing kids suddenly start to fail. So ridiculous.

Some people just like to complain. They get off on it.

Like you? You sat this doesn't affect you but then are on here day after day? Why? Do you get off on it? Project much? People just want the old grading system. That's actually the opposite of complaining. You could say this change is a complaint. At any rate you have no business being in this discussion because you have no pros or cons for the old or the new system. Your posts contribute nothing.

You sure are certain of things that are factually wrong. For instance, you are sure you are giving a smack down to one person when there are multiple people who disagree with you. But, I guess we should expect that. You see things ONE WAY and one way only. Fits a pattern.

DP and I agree with PP. Other parents actually discuss that there is one person that talks the way you do.