Washington Post fires reporter Felicia Somnez who objected to misogynistic tweets

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

What? The guy literally was suspended. Somnez wouldn’t let it go and stared publicly attacking her coworkers. And when her female boss told her to stop, she kept going.

People like you don’t even know the basic facts and just start spewing o it “misogyny” whenever you get a chance.

His “punishment” was essentially nothing. Let’s not pretend here.

Being suspended for a month without pay would be a big freaking deal in my house.

Mine, too. Must be nice to be so privileged you don't need an income.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

Except he didn't display any hysterical behavior, and she did.

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His retweet was gross, unprofessional, and frankly, juvenile. Off-color humor can be funny, but the key word there is humor. That would require the tweet to actually be funny, which it wasn't.

I do not think the retweet is a fireable offense, and I do think a brief suspension is fair. To me, a 40yo man who thinks that's funny to RT from his work account represents his employer poorly and has poor judgment.

While I understand Felicia's frustration, I think the bigger issue is that she did not stop with Dave after he took the tweet down. If she had quietly gone to her supervisor and brought it to their attention, or even brought it up to Dave directly, that would be fine by me. The issue as I see it is that after he took the tweet down and Post management had already become involved, she continued to harass him - and others - via twitter. Publicly disparaging your colleagues also is not a great/professional look.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

“Flipping out” and “loose cannon” are applied to men as often as women. I’ll give you “hysterical,” and I don’t think that’s an appropriate description of her actions. She absolutely crossed the boundaries of professional behavior with her second tweet if not her first, and then obliterated them in the following days. It all seemed quite deliberate, and I can’t imagine what she was thinking. She must not need the income from her Post job.

As to the guy who wrote the tweet (Cam Harless), I’m sure he’d be delighted if you called him names. He’s a professional sh*t poster who appears to love baiting liberals and “Karens”. He is delighted with the controversy his tweet caused, and went on Tucker Carlson’s show to talk about it. I also don’t know what Dave Weigel was thinking by retweeting it.

I think the point is that Weigel wasn’t thinking, because that level of misogyny is something he’s comfortable with. Which, of course, makes any story he ever writes about women suspect. I’m genuinely not sure how he can be a trusted reporter on any stories about a woman again.

I actually think his correct punishment should have been that he isn’t allowed to write a story that features or quotes any woman for years. He isn’t trustworthy. He should not be fired, and I’m not even sure being docked a month of pay is right. But he should not be able to write about women.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

“Flipping out” and “loose cannon” are applied to men as often as women. I’ll give you “hysterical,” and I don’t think that’s an appropriate description of her actions. She absolutely crossed the boundaries of professional behavior with her second tweet if not her first, and then obliterated them in the following days. It all seemed quite deliberate, and I can’t imagine what she was thinking. She must not need the income from her Post job.

As to the guy who wrote the tweet (Cam Harless), I’m sure he’d be delighted if you called him names. He’s a professional sh*t poster who appears to love baiting liberals and “Karens”. He is delighted with the controversy his tweet caused, and went on Tucker Carlson’s show to talk about it. I also don’t know what Dave Weigel was thinking by retweeting it.

I think the point is that Weigel wasn’t thinking, because that level of misogyny is something he’s comfortable with. Which, of course, makes any story he ever writes about women suspect. I’m genuinely not sure how he can be a trusted reporter on any stories about a woman again.

I actually think his correct punishment should have been that he isn’t allowed to write a story that features or quotes any woman for years. He isn’t trustworthy. He should not be fired, and I’m not even sure being docked a month of pay is right. But he should not be able to write about women.

He is definitely an idiot for retweeting it but I think your line that I bolded is a bridge too far. Really? He should never write about women again?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

“Flipping out” and “loose cannon” are applied to men as often as women. I’ll give you “hysterical,” and I don’t think that’s an appropriate description of her actions. She absolutely crossed the boundaries of professional behavior with her second tweet if not her first, and then obliterated them in the following days. It all seemed quite deliberate, and I can’t imagine what she was thinking. She must not need the income from her Post job.

As to the guy who wrote the tweet (Cam Harless), I’m sure he’d be delighted if you called him names. He’s a professional sh*t poster who appears to love baiting liberals and “Karens”. He is delighted with the controversy his tweet caused, and went on Tucker Carlson’s show to talk about it. I also don’t know what Dave Weigel was thinking by retweeting it.

I think the point is that Weigel wasn’t thinking, because that level of misogyny is something he’s comfortable with. Which, of course, makes any story he ever writes about women suspect. I’m genuinely not sure how he can be a trusted reporter on any stories about a woman again.

I actually think his correct punishment should have been that he isn’t allowed to write a story that features or quotes any woman for years. He isn’t trustworthy. He should not be fired, and I’m not even sure being docked a month of pay is right. But he should not be able to write about women.

Do you actually think this is some genius idea? Give me a break. It's impossible to write a news article that's not about women - they are half of the country. Saying "Well, we won't punish you in the traditional sense but you can't write about women" is just passive-aggressive.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

“Flipping out” and “loose cannon” are applied to men as often as women. I’ll give you “hysterical,” and I don’t think that’s an appropriate description of her actions. She absolutely crossed the boundaries of professional behavior with her second tweet if not her first, and then obliterated them in the following days. It all seemed quite deliberate, and I can’t imagine what she was thinking. She must not need the income from her Post job.

As to the guy who wrote the tweet (Cam Harless), I’m sure he’d be delighted if you called him names. He’s a professional sh*t poster who appears to love baiting liberals and “Karens”. He is delighted with the controversy his tweet caused, and went on Tucker Carlson’s show to talk about it. I also don’t know what Dave Weigel was thinking by retweeting it.

I do not watch Tucker but I did read an article about Cam Harless and he is dumb as a box of rocks. Revels in being a "troll." Pathetic man.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

“Flipping out” and “loose cannon” are applied to men as often as women. I’ll give you “hysterical,” and I don’t think that’s an appropriate description of her actions. She absolutely crossed the boundaries of professional behavior with her second tweet if not her first, and then obliterated them in the following days. It all seemed quite deliberate, and I can’t imagine what she was thinking. She must not need the income from her Post job.

As to the guy who wrote the tweet (Cam Harless), I’m sure he’d be delighted if you called him names. He’s a professional sh*t poster who appears to love baiting liberals and “Karens”. He is delighted with the controversy his tweet caused, and went on Tucker Carlson’s show to talk about it. I also don’t know what Dave Weigel was thinking by retweeting it.

I think the point is that Weigel wasn’t thinking, because that level of misogyny is something he’s comfortable with. Which, of course, makes any story he ever writes about women suspect. I’m genuinely not sure how he can be a trusted reporter on any stories about a woman again.

I actually think his correct punishment should have been that he isn’t allowed to write a story that features or quotes any woman for years. He isn’t trustworthy. He should not be fired, and I’m not even sure being docked a month of pay is right. But he should not be able to write about women.

What? You think he should be prohibited from writing any stories that QUOTE or FEATURE women? Over one dumb RT?!

I'm sorry but how does it help women for a political reporter to have to erase us from the picture?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

“Flipping out” and “loose cannon” are applied to men as often as women. I’ll give you “hysterical,” and I don’t think that’s an appropriate description of her actions. She absolutely crossed the boundaries of professional behavior with her second tweet if not her first, and then obliterated them in the following days. It all seemed quite deliberate, and I can’t imagine what she was thinking. She must not need the income from her Post job.

As to the guy who wrote the tweet (Cam Harless), I’m sure he’d be delighted if you called him names. He’s a professional sh*t poster who appears to love baiting liberals and “Karens”. He is delighted with the controversy his tweet caused, and went on Tucker Carlson’s show to talk about it. I also don’t know what Dave Weigel was thinking by retweeting it.

I think the point is that Weigel wasn’t thinking, because that level of misogyny is something he’s comfortable with. Which, of course, makes any story he ever writes about women suspect. I’m genuinely not sure how he can be a trusted reporter on any stories about a woman again.

I actually think his correct punishment should have been that he isn’t allowed to write a story that features or quotes any woman for years. He isn’t trustworthy. He should not be fired, and I’m not even sure being docked a month of pay is right. But he should not be able to write about women.

Do you actually think this is some genius idea? Give me a break. It's impossible to write a news article that's not about women - they are half of the country. Saying "Well, we won't punish you in the traditional sense but you can't write about women" is just passive-aggressive.

Dave Wiegel maligned half the country with his tweet. Seems fair. Do you think he would still have a job if he had retweeted similar content about Black people? Or Jewish people? I don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

Except he didn't display any hysterical behavior, and she did.

Funny how only women are ever called "hysterical". I don't think calling out Dave Wiegel for saying that women are either bipolar or bisexual is "hysterical." I do think Dave Wiegel is somewhat sociopathic.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/06/media/dave-weigel-washington-post-suspended/index.html

Sonmez on Sunday evening then tagged Buzbee and Gold on Twitter and said she had reached out to them to discuss the matter, but that she hadn't heard back.
"Retaliation against a colleague for speaking out against sexism is never okay," Sonmez wrote. "I hope Washington Post leaders treat this as the serious issue that it is."
By Monday morning, tension at The Post was still high.
Video technician Breanna Muir responded to Buzbee's all-staff email, applauding Sonmez for "speaking out against harassment, discrimination and sexism."
Muir attached a tweet showing that Micah Gelman, the head of The Post's video team, had once misidentified her as "Breanna Taylor."
"If the Washington Post is committed to an inclusive and respectful environment free of harassment, discrimination or bias of any sort, then can someone please help me understand Micah Gelman and David Weigel's tweets/rts?" Muir asked.
"These tweets/rts not only hurt women in our newsroom but make it extremely difficult to do our best work," Muir added. "Ultimately, it creates a toxic work environment."

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

Except he didn't display any hysterical behavior, and she did.

Funny how only women are ever called "hysterical". I don't think calling out Dave Wiegel for saying that women are either bipolar or bisexual is "hysterical." I do think Dave Wiegel is somewhat sociopathic.

He didn't actually...

You know what. Forget it.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

Except he didn't display any hysterical behavior, and she did.

Funny how only women are ever called "hysterical". I don't think calling out Dave Wiegel for saying that women are either bipolar or bisexual is "hysterical." I do think Dave Wiegel is somewhat sociopathic.

Felicia, just stop. He is in no way "sociopathic." You, however, are being "hysterical." Please get help.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

Except he didn't display any hysterical behavior, and she did.

Funny how only women are ever called "hysterical". I don't think calling out Dave Wiegel for saying that women are either bipolar or bisexual is "hysterical." I do think Dave Wiegel is somewhat sociopathic.

Felicia, just stop. He is in no way "sociopathic." You, however, are being "hysterical." Please get help.

BTW I am a woman telling you this. You are embarrassing the rest of us women. Let it go.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, she was given several warnings to stop her behavior. She had a choice, but continued—sounds like a loose cannon.

+1 although I think she sounds like my 2 year old when he's having a temper tantrum. At this point whatever point she is trying to make is lost because of her poor behavior.

It is hard to see how she could ever be trusted as a reporter in the future and expect people to want to read what she has written because she has gone so far overboard. I know I would skip her article whenever I saw her byline simply because of her clear vitriolic and hyperbolic writings. She had a point, but when she was challenged her response vis a vis the personal attacks and clear animus made her distasteful and now her writing is irrelevant because of the clear bias.

She deserved to be fired because of her behavior and I wouldn't be surprised if she is completely unable to find employment with any legitimate news agency. She might be better off migrating over the New York Post. They are right up her alley.

The only post employee who attacked a colleague was Del Real. He attacked Somnez and she retweeted his attacks. Most of her tweets were retweeting language by the post. Del Real was not punished, Weigel suspended, and she was fired for speaking out. Stay silent ladies!

I don’t work at the Post but the optics of what they did looks terrible. Old boys club indeed.

Oh, get real. It was Somnez who was flipping out. I read the chain in the Post. The more she posted the more hysterical and vitriolic she got. She was a loose cannon. They're better off without her.

So much gender bias in the way some posters are talking about Somnez. “Hysterical” “flipping out”, “loose cannon.” None of these things seem to be apples to the man who started this whole incident by tweeting that all women are either bisexual or bipolar. Let’s call him some names too-not just the woman brave enough to call him out for being a woman hater.

“Flipping out” and “loose cannon” are applied to men as often as women. I’ll give you “hysterical,” and I don’t think that’s an appropriate description of her actions. She absolutely crossed the boundaries of professional behavior with her second tweet if not her first, and then obliterated them in the following days. It all seemed quite deliberate, and I can’t imagine what she was thinking. She must not need the income from her Post job.

As to the guy who wrote the tweet (Cam Harless), I’m sure he’d be delighted if you called him names. He’s a professional sh*t poster who appears to love baiting liberals and “Karens”. He is delighted with the controversy his tweet caused, and went on Tucker Carlson’s show to talk about it. I also don’t know what Dave Weigel was thinking by retweeting it.

I think the point is that Weigel wasn’t thinking, because that level of misogyny is something he’s comfortable with. Which, of course, makes any story he ever writes about women suspect. I’m genuinely not sure how he can be a trusted reporter on any stories about a woman again.

I actually think his correct punishment should have been that he isn’t allowed to write a story that features or quotes any woman for years. He isn’t trustworthy. He should not be fired, and I’m not even sure being docked a month of pay is right. But he should not be able to write about women.

Do you actually think this is some genius idea? Give me a break. It's impossible to write a news article that's not about women - they are half of the country. Saying "Well, we won't punish you in the traditional sense but you can't write about women" is just passive-aggressive.

Dave Wiegel maligned half the country with his tweet. Seems fair. Do you think he would still have a job if he had retweeted similar content about Black people? Or Jewish people? I don’t.

Did he malign you? He didn't malign me, a part of your "half the country" with his retweet.

And let's be honest, if he retweeted a joke about guys you'd have no problem with it.