Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How she rug-pulls in her own words:

https://www.tiktok.com/@hylldadanyella?pid=video_embed&referer_video_id=7470029322821078303&videoId=7470029322821078303&type=video&referer_url=s9e.github.io/&refer=embed&embed_source=121374463,121468991,121439635,121433650,121404359,121497414,73319236,121477481,121487028,73347566,121331973,120811592,120810756,121503376;null;embed_name


Her hair color is so so bad.

This is looking even worse for her in m opinion. She played this poor guy. The deceit is alarming!

[Anonymous]

She was hired to act. There was a woman who wrote the script; female ADs; a professional costume designer with, I have no doubt, a superior understanding of what would look good. Blake Likely is grasping and dishonest and her interviews show it. End of, Mrs I Don’t Even LIKE Blake Lively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How she rug-pulls in her own words:

https://www.tiktok.com/@hylldadanyella?pid=video_embed&referer_video_id=7470029322821078303&videoId=7470029322821078303&type=video&referer_url=s9e.github.io/&refer=embed&embed_source=121374463,121468991,121439635,121433650,121404359,121497414,73319236,121477481,121487028,73347566,121331973,120811592,120810756,121503376;null;embed_name


Her hair color is so so bad.

She's saying that when she was younger, she would people-please when she went into initial meetings and not really admit (to the director/producers or maybe to herself) that she wanted to be more than just an actor hitting her marks and saying her lines, and she's empathizing that this probably felt like a "rug pull" when she'd then want to have more input. She's admitting she went about it wrong.

The interview is from 2022. She's saying that she is now more upfront about wanting to have more "authorship" in the projects she chooses and is more willing to say from the start that she wants to have input into things like the costuming. She's saying she now chooses projects intentionally with people who are interested in collaborating with her and not just hiring her to be an actor and say her lines.

If you look through the texts/emails that Baldoni himself provides, you see over and over that he is telling her he wants to be collaborative and wants her input. At no point does he actually push back and say no, we just want you to be an actor and show up and say your lines. It's a different story when he's communicating with the producers and it's clear from THOSE communications that the people at Wayfarer absolutely do not want to collaborate with Lively. But where is that communicated to Lively?

It looks to me like the people who were trying to "rug pull" here were Baldoni and Wayfarer. She signed onto this project in late 2022, so not long after the interview at the link. If she set from the outset, as she was saying publicly at the time, "I want to have some authorship on this project, I don't want to just be an actor," did they go into those initial meetings and say "oh yes, yes of course we want to collaborate with you and we want your input," only to later decide they didn't actually and they wanted her to just shut up and act? They wanted her name, her image, her Instagram followers, and her husband's support at the premiere, but they didn't want to actually listen to her?

She sounds self-aware in that interview and like someone who has evolved as a person since starting out as a very young actor.

The thing is though, that she is not even an A list actor. She comes across as extremely arrogant and smug to assume that any director would want her input in a film. She was hired to play a part, same as all the other actors in the film. This is why she had to work with JB. He was pretty much unknown. She was well aware of this and used it to her advantage to manipulate him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How she rug-pulls in her own words:

https://www.tiktok.com/@hylldadanyella?pid=video_embed&referer_video_id=7470029322821078303&videoId=7470029322821078303&type=video&referer_url=s9e.github.io/&refer=embed&embed_source=121374463,121468991,121439635,121433650,121404359,121497414,73319236,121477481,121487028,73347566,121331973,120811592,120810756,121503376;null;embed_name


Her hair color is so so bad.

She's saying that when she was younger, she would people-please when she went into initial meetings and not really admit (to the director/producers or maybe to herself) that she wanted to be more than just an actor hitting her marks and saying her lines, and she's empathizing that this probably felt like a "rug pull" when she'd then want to have more input. She's admitting she went about it wrong.

The interview is from 2022. She's saying that she is now more upfront about wanting to have more "authorship" in the projects she chooses and is more willing to say from the start that she wants to have input into things like the costuming. She's saying she now chooses projects intentionally with people who are interested in collaborating with her and not just hiring her to be an actor and say her lines.

If you look through the texts/emails that Baldoni himself provides, you see over and over that he is telling her he wants to be collaborative and wants her input. At no point does he actually push back and say no, we just want you to be an actor and show up and say your lines. It's a different story when he's communicating with the producers and it's clear from THOSE communications that the people at Wayfarer absolutely do not want to collaborate with Lively. But where is that communicated to Lively?

It looks to me like the people who were trying to "rug pull" here were Baldoni and Wayfarer. She signed onto this project in late 2022, so not long after the interview at the link. If she set from the outset, as she was saying publicly at the time, "I want to have some authorship on this project, I don't want to just be an actor," did they go into those initial meetings and say "oh yes, yes of course we want to collaborate with you and we want your input," only to later decide they didn't actually and they wanted her to just shut up and act? They wanted her name, her image, her Instagram followers, and her husband's support at the premiere, but they didn't want to actually listen to her?

She sounds self-aware in that interview and like someone who has evolved as a person since starting out as a very young actor.

Nope. She sounds like a weasel. If she wants to direct and be in charge, then she should just do that as she doesn’t seem to be fulfilled acting. To think she SHOULD be given creative control when she has been hired to act, is a character flaw and it makes her sound self important. Could you imagine hiring a plumber to fix your bathroom pipes and you find him tearing out your bath tile and replacing your cabinetry? Completely an entire remodel! Blake’s mo is to go above and beyond the scope of her role/duties in a very intentional way to gain control over the project. It’s sneaky and her admitting to it, reveals that she finds nothing at all wrong with it. Yet another character flaw in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How she rug-pulls in her own words:

https://www.tiktok.com/@hylldadanyella?pid=video_embed&referer_video_id=7470029322821078303&videoId=7470029322821078303&type=video&referer_url=s9e.github.io/&refer=embed&embed_source=121374463,121468991,121439635,121433650,121404359,121497414,73319236,121477481,121487028,73347566,121331973,120811592,120810756,121503376;null;embed_name


Her hair color is so so bad.

She's saying that when she was younger, she would people-please when she went into initial meetings and not really admit (to the director/producers or maybe to herself) that she wanted to be more than just an actor hitting her marks and saying her lines, and she's empathizing that this probably felt like a "rug pull" when she'd then want to have more input. She's admitting she went about it wrong.

The interview is from 2022. She's saying that she is now more upfront about wanting to have more "authorship" in the projects she chooses and is more willing to say from the start that she wants to have input into things like the costuming. She's saying she now chooses projects intentionally with people who are interested in collaborating with her and not just hiring her to be an actor and say her lines.

If you look through the texts/emails that Baldoni himself provides, you see over and over that he is telling her he wants to be collaborative and wants her input. At no point does he actually push back and say no, we just want you to be an actor and show up and say your lines. It's a different story when he's communicating with the producers and it's clear from THOSE communications that the people at Wayfarer absolutely do not want to collaborate with Lively. But where is that communicated to Lively?

It looks to me like the people who were trying to "rug pull" here were Baldoni and Wayfarer. She signed onto this project in late 2022, so not long after the interview at the link. If she set from the outset, as she was saying publicly at the time, "I want to have some authorship on this project, I don't want to just be an actor," did they go into those initial meetings and say "oh yes, yes of course we want to collaborate with you and we want your input," only to later decide they didn't actually and they wanted her to just shut up and act? They wanted her name, her image, her Instagram followers, and her husband's support at the premiere, but they didn't want to actually listen to her?

She sounds self-aware in that interview and like someone who has evolved as a person since starting out as a very young actor.

Maybe BL should just do the job she was hired to do? She is an actress correct? A quality actor becomes the character they are portraying, it is all consuming. They don’t have time to worry about taking over other jobs within the film, they are laser focused on perfecting that character and making it as realistic and believable as possible.

[Anonymous]

That video of her basically admitting she lies in auditions is not shocking. She’s not very bright and doesn’t understand how she comes across. The video is trending and is yet another piece of evidence that the best thing for her is for her team to convince her to end this drama. But it doesn’t seem like she listens to anyone so good luck.

[Anonymous]

That interview just really highlights her arrogance. She smugly states ‘I don’t just want to be an actor’ or something to that effect. Blake, if being just an actor isn’t fulfilling enough for you, go out and create something, you are wealthy enough to do that. You don’t get hired as an actor and the expect to ‘collaborate’ with the director. What if all the actors hired for a film expected this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was hired to act. There was a woman who wrote the script; female ADs; a professional costume designer with, I have no doubt, a superior understanding of what would look good. Blake Likely is grasping and dishonest and her interviews show it. End of, Mrs I Don’t Even LIKE Blake Lively.

The costume designer on IEWU was Eric Daman who had previously worked with Lively on Gossip Girl. In fact the aesthetic that everyone seems to blame on Lively is actually very in keeping with Daman's aesthetic -- if you look up photos of his work on GG, or heck look at how he dresses himself, you'd understand that the costuming on the movie was very much his baby. Heck, Jenny Slate looks like a grown up Blair Waldorf with her headbands.

Daman had nothing but good things to say about working with Lively on the movie and they appear to remain good friends. Again, this was the costume designer hired by Wayfarer to do the costumes for the movie.

But sure, go off on calling Lively "grasping and dishonest" even though she had a positive working relationship with the costumer and the wardrobe for the movie is much more reflective of his sensibility than Lively's own personal style.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That interview just really highlights her arrogance. She smugly states ‘I don’t just want to be an actor’ or something to that effect. Blake, if being just an actor isn’t fulfilling enough for you, go out and create something, you are wealthy enough to do that. You don’t get hired as an actor and the expect to ‘collaborate’ with the director. What if all the actors hired for a film expected this?

She's not wealthy enough.Thats the problem

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was hired to act. There was a woman who wrote the script; female ADs; a professional costume designer with, I have no doubt, a superior understanding of what would look good. Blake Likely is grasping and dishonest and her interviews show it. End of, Mrs I Don’t Even LIKE Blake Lively.

The costume designer on IEWU was Eric Daman who had previously worked with Lively on Gossip Girl. In fact the aesthetic that everyone seems to blame on Lively is actually very in keeping with Daman's aesthetic -- if you look up photos of his work on GG, or heck look at how he dresses himself, you'd understand that the costuming on the movie was very much his baby. Heck, Jenny Slate looks like a grown up Blair Waldorf with her headbands.

Daman had nothing but good things to say about working with Lively on the movie and they appear to remain good friends. Again, this was the costume designer hired by Wayfarer to do the costumes for the movie.

But sure, go off on calling Lively "grasping and dishonest" even though she had a positive working relationship with the costumer and the wardrobe for the movie is much more reflective of his sensibility than Lively's own personal style.

Her relationship with the costume isn't why she's in court, is it? Your girl's cake is baked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was hired to act. There was a woman who wrote the script; female ADs; a professional costume designer with, I have no doubt, a superior understanding of what would look good. Blake Likely is grasping and dishonest and her interviews show it. End of, Mrs I Don’t Even LIKE Blake Lively.

The costume designer on IEWU was Eric Daman who had previously worked with Lively on Gossip Girl. In fact the aesthetic that everyone seems to blame on Lively is actually very in keeping with Daman's aesthetic -- if you look up photos of his work on GG, or heck look at how he dresses himself, you'd understand that the costuming on the movie was very much his baby. Heck, Jenny Slate looks like a grown up Blair Waldorf with her headbands.

Daman had nothing but good things to say about working with Lively on the movie and they appear to remain good friends. Again, this was the costume designer hired by Wayfarer to do the costumes for the movie.

But sure, go off on calling Lively "grasping and dishonest" even though she had a positive working relationship with the costumer and the wardrobe for the movie is much more reflective of his sensibility than Lively's own personal style.

It’s funny but BL wasn’t the only character in this film. Perhaps the clothes would have looked better on someone in their early 20s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That interview just really highlights her arrogance. She smugly states ‘I don’t just want to be an actor’ or something to that effect. Blake, if being just an actor isn’t fulfilling enough for you, go out and create something, you are wealthy enough to do that. You don’t get hired as an actor and the expect to ‘collaborate’ with the director. What if all the actors hired for a film expected this?

She was an actor and producer.

If Wayfarer didn't want her to produce and didn't want to collaborate with her, they had ample opportunity to do so before the movie began filming.

The truth is, they didn't "just" want an actor. The wanted a name, someone with some box office pull who would help sell the film. That's why they hired Lively over literally hundreds of other actors who could have played the role as well or better. Well, the flip side of that is that someone who is famous and has a ton of instagram followers and knows she's been hired to help sell tickets also has leverage, and Lively wanted to use her leverage to have more involvement in the film.

If Wayfarer didn't like that, they didn't have to hire her. They got exactly what they paid for with her. And she made them a TON of money. But they are still mad because, ugh, she wanted to have input into the costumes and, ugh, she wants to have input into the script. Rolling my eyes. They wanted it both ways and you can't have it both ways.

Next time they can make their little movie with some nice, compliant actress who just hits her marks and says her lines and never says a peep about anything else, and no one will see it or care about it but look, they have all the control in the world. That's what they want, yes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That interview just really highlights her arrogance. She smugly states ‘I don’t just want to be an actor’ or something to that effect. Blake, if being just an actor isn’t fulfilling enough for you, go out and create something, you are wealthy enough to do that. You don’t get hired as an actor and the expect to ‘collaborate’ with the director. What if all the actors hired for a film expected this?

She's not wealthy enough.Thats the problem

Is she talented enough to create and then direct a film!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was hired to act. There was a woman who wrote the script; female ADs; a professional costume designer with, I have no doubt, a superior understanding of what would look good. Blake Likely is grasping and dishonest and her interviews show it. End of, Mrs I Don’t Even LIKE Blake Lively.

The costume designer on IEWU was Eric Daman who had previously worked with Lively on Gossip Girl. In fact the aesthetic that everyone seems to blame on Lively is actually very in keeping with Daman's aesthetic -- if you look up photos of his work on GG, or heck look at how he dresses himself, you'd understand that the costuming on the movie was very much his baby. Heck, Jenny Slate looks like a grown up Blair Waldorf with her headbands.

Daman had nothing but good things to say about working with Lively on the movie and they appear to remain good friends. Again, this was the costume designer hired by Wayfarer to do the costumes for the movie.

But sure, go off on calling Lively "grasping and dishonest" even though she had a positive working relationship with the costumer and the wardrobe for the movie is much more reflective of his sensibility than Lively's own personal style.

It’s funny but BL wasn’t the only character in this film. Perhaps the clothes would have looked better on someone in their early 20s?

Why would they cast an actress in her early 20s to play opposite Baldoni, who is 40?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

It really bothers me when people object to Jamie and Justin talking about the childbirth scene with Blake because she’s had four babies. Literally, the director‘s job is to lay out a vision for what he wants the childbirth scene to be in this movie. who gives a flying F if Blake has had 10 babies, he’s not coaching Blake through labor, he is trying to lay out a vision for a scene in his movie.

I am sure many actresses have had sex scenes in a movie that were not like the way they have sex in real life. They have gotten married in movies and shot wedding scenes that were not like their wedding in real life. And they have given birth in movie scenes in ways that were not like the way they gave birth in real life.

She is getting paid to act out a childbirth scene and he is the director of a movie. It was completely appropriate for them to have that discussion.

Sure he’s the director, but manspaining to a woman who has given birth four times that all women give birth naked in a tub because that’s how his wife did it — and that all women climax at the same time as their man during sex because that’s what his wife does — seems pretty tone deaf to me. If Justin needed this story to be that specific and oblivious to the big name actress (I know! But compared to Baldoni, Lively is the bigger name and box office draw here) he had actually cast, he should have cast his own wife as Lily instead.

This weird insistence on “this is how women experience this” is off putting. Some directors are brilliant and can get away with mistreating or being rude to the talent, but Baldoni was not in that space and in fact held himself out as someone who would be a partner not a dictator. So his insistence that “women be like this” comes off badly. It speaks to what some people in the thread have said that his feminism seemed performative because he would say one thing but then act differently.

+1 and will add:

Baldoni and Wayfarer made a huge deal about wanting to tell this particular story through "the female gaze." And Baldoni and Heath both have built professional reputations on the idea that they are men who *listen* to the women in their lives, who put aside toxic masculinity in order to be allies and partners. That is the context of this movie.

And then Baldoni and Heath told a woman who has given birth to four children that it is not "normal" to wear a hospital gown during birth (I have given birth and I wore a hospital gown) and that it is "weird" not to want to watch someone else's birth video.

You can't have it both ways. You can't claim to want to make a movie that tells the story from a female perspective and then dismiss female perspectives when they challenge some of the creative choices you are making in that movie. And further, from an employment perspective, you can't get an actress to sign onto a movie by explicitly telling her she'll be a collaborator in making the movie and that you are interested in and open to her ideas and input, and then shame her when she attempts to collaborate and share her ideas.

Or you can, but it doesn't make you a "male feminist" and it doesn't make you a good guy.

Did JB and Heath in fact, tell BL that women don’t wear gowns during childbirth? Is that verified? If so, that is so obviously wrong and disgusting on their part. However it doesn’t equal SH. I would have just disagreed with them and schooled these men that women do wear gowns or whatever they want during childbirth and if they want a totally naked actress pretending to give birth I am not the right actress for this porn film.

Lively alleged it in her complaint and Baldoni's lawsuit doesn't address it at all. So not "verified" but also not contradicted.

And I mean, I think what you describe is pretty much what Lively did, which is why she was not fully nude in the scene. And for standing up for herself and refusing to do unscripted nudity, she was hit with a PR campaign calling her hard to work with and accused of trying to "take over" the movie. Hmmm.

In fact she was fully dressed.

Yep.

I just rewatched this scene on YouTube and I wouldn’t describe her as fully dressed. She was not naked in a tub though. But she’s wearing a hospital gown that’s partly open at the top, her belly is exposed, and she is shot to appear naked from the waist down though you only see legs, torso, and stomach. The way it is shot she must have on one of those nude underwear things because the fake doctor is right up in her personal area. I would describe this as partially nude but ymmv.

Her belly was covered with a pregnancy suit. You do realize that she wasn’t pregnant, right? Jesus.

Sure, so her “belly” is not “her belly.” Pretty sure her naked legs are still hers, and that there is very little between the doctor and her personal area. I would never in one million years call this “fully dressed” but maybe you and Jesus would see this differently.

She is being paid mega bucks to wear a pregnancy suit and willingly pretend to be pregnant in a film, what part was BL confused about?

+1. And a film in which the childbirth scene is the pivotal part of the entire movie. It wasn’t like it was a minor element! It’s the entire plot!

Doesn’t mean she has to do it naked in a tub. Sorry not sorry.

This is why you have no credibility. She didn’t film it naked in a tub.

But that’s how Baldoni wanted to do it (with a fake belly but exposed breasts) and that’s what she objected to. That by itself isn’t sexual harassment but you can also prove SH by a pattern of behavior, which is what Lively is alleging in her complaint — not just one single incident of assault which is what some people experience.

It’s not sexual harassment to discuss how to film a childbirth scene and for the director to have an opinion on it when it is a pivotal scene in the plot.

I totally agree with you. This was a major part of the movie.

A major part of the movie that had already been shot. Why were they still talking about it? Did they want to go back and shoot it again, this time with her nude?

I mean, BL was well aware of what giving birth looks like as she has 4 kids. This does seem quite perverted and totally unnecessary to show your own wife giving birth nude. BL did not need to see this, no one should be viewing this. It’s gross, unprofessional and bizarre. JB’s wife should be livid. What weirdos. Does this point to SH? Not sure…I am also wondering now, did JB’s wife consent to this personal birth video being shown off as a gold standard of birthing?

It was a video of heath’s wife and she did consent.

So, right at that moment when he whipped out his gold standard birthing video, I would have made it very clear that I was more of a childbirth expert than any male involved in this conversation and I really do not want to see his naked wife ever.

yes this is exactly like Joe in Accounting trying to show you the sex tape he made with his wife!!!

Meanwhile - dads probably actually are more expert in what birth “looks like” because they are the ones actually watching. And it sounds like they were trying to discuss what in fact is a very different kind of birth (unmedicated home birth) vs a hospital birth.

Not it’s really not.

Uh I think they were being sarcastic, no?

I don’t think they were being sarcastic. And as an MD who regularly watches Dads “watching” their wives gives birth I will point out that half the time they miss it because we make them sit down when they start looking woozy.

The two of them approaching a mom who has given birth multiple times with a “how to” labor vid of one of their wives is vomitous. There’s really nothing men won’t try to own.

It is their job to direct her and tell her how they want the scene. Blake lively is not giving birth. Her character Lily is giving birth and no one gives a crap about Blake’s lived experience.

If she wants to share her wisdom on childbirth, she is free to launch a podcast so she can have a fourth failed business venture under her belt.

It is their job to get actors on board with their vision for the scene. Filmmaking is collaborative whether you like that or not. Unless Justin Baldoni wanted to make a movie by himself in which he played all the roles, including that of Lilly Bloom, then his actual job is communicate his vision to actors, costumers, set designers, cinematographers, cameramen, sound engineers, etc. and get all those people to work together to create the movie.

If his attitude was actually that "no one gives a crap" about his lead actress's experience giving birth, regarding a scene in which the character she is playing is giving birth (something, let's all be clear, Justin Baldoni has never and will never do), then I can see why he did such a piss poor job directing this movie and why Sony was so grateful to Lively for stepping in to not only ensure the finished product was something they could distribute and market, but worked tirelessly to promote it and get audiences into the theater to see it.

Filmmaking is only collaborative to ignorant people who want to sound like they know what they're talking about . Either you like it or not, it is a very much vertically integrated endeavor. A movie requires somebody giving orders (the director) and someone executing those orders (the actor)
The good news is, moving forward she'll have to be everything ( director,actress,producer,screenwriter)at once since she knows so much .