Woodcock Johnson Test Scores, really used?

[Anonymous]

Dear Community,
We are appealing for AAP for our DC who is in second grade now. The pyschologist also gave Woodcock Johnson test and found DC to be >99.8 percentile (start of 6th grade level) in Broad Math and >92 percentile (end of 4th grade level) in Broad Reading.

The WSIC came out to be 125, with one subtest PRI in the Very Superior of 131.

The question is whether the appeals team really consider the Woodcock Johnson scores or not.

Thanks for any inisght.

[Anonymous]

The appeal form is online and shows what tests are considered.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/Spring2012AdvAcadLevelIVProgramAppealForm.pdf

[Anonymous]

PP. It says "Achievement Test Score" but it does not specifically say "Woodcock". I guess Woodcock is considered as achievement test.

Please share your experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP. It says "Achievement Test Score" but it does not specifically say "Woodcock". I guess Woodcock is considered as achievement test.

Please share your experiences.

I would think you would include it. Is the score part of the psychologist's report? If so, I would include it.

I have no personal experience as I have not prepared an appeal before. (I do have two kids in AAP, though.)

[Anonymous]

They have a list of tests they accept from students transferring in from other districts and that test is not on the list, but I would include it as an achievement test.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it is part of the report.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/identificationntc.shtml

says, •Achievement test results (if available)

but does not say Woodcock in particular. That's what I am asking if anyone has previous experiences with the use of Woodcock results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is part of the report.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/identificationntc.shtml

says, •Achievement test results (if available)

but does not say Woodcock in particular. That's what I am asking if anyone has previous experiences with the use of Woodcock results.

I would include it since you have it already. Certainly bolsters the case for advanced mathematics, at a minimum.

[Anonymous]

i have heard that private psychs do this. if the fsiq isn't high enough they test again to get you a better score on another test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i have heard that private psychs do this. if the fsiq isn't high enough they test again to get you a better score on another test.

That makes little sense when one test is an ability test and the other is an achievement test.

[Anonymous]

Use both scores. They are excellent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i have heard that private psychs do this. if the fsiq isn't high enough they test again to get you a better score on another test.

You shouldn't make snide comments when you don't know what you're talking about. The Woodcock-Johnson is an acheivement test and does not measure IQ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have heard that private psychs do this. if the fsiq isn't high enough they test again to get you a better score on another test.

You shouldn't make snide comments when you don't know what you're talking about. The Woodcock-Johnson is an acheivement test and does not measure IQ.

i wasn't making a snide comment. rather repeating what a psych had told me. most kids don't submit this test score.. do they. so why was this test given. the fact that someone kept testing until they got a high test score is what i have heard some people do.

[Anonymous]

It wan't like "kept testing" until good results are obtained. Both tests are administered in the same testing session and then scored seperately.

As it has been said earlier, the Woodcock-Johnson is an acheivement test and does not measure IQ.

There is a line in the appeal form for achievement scores to be reported in addition to the I.Q scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i wasn't making a snide comment. rather repeating what a psych had told me. most kids don't submit this test score.. do they. so why was this test given. the fact that someone kept testing until they got a high test score is what i have heard some people do.

Because both tests are given DURING THE SAME SESSION to show both aptitude AND achievement. Hopefully you understand there is a difference.

[Anonymous]

the original question was whether the committee actually looks at the woodcock test. don't know OP. why don't you post after you get your appeal back and let us know what the committee thinks.