Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

(I think she's a narcissist)

[Anonymous]

When I hear “single mom” I think mom with younger kiddos looking at years of going it alone.
What I don’t think: mom with a couple of grown or almost grown self driving their own cars kids, one my surrogate husband, the other mostly ignored/pawned off while I go on monthly (yes, monthly) kid free vacations to various **** resorts.

lay off the poor struggling single mom thing Jenn, it barely applies & insults the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

“Single mom” is another grift.

She barely mentions the kids anymore. Is Ben still the wunderkid? Is Remy still incorrigible? Who can say?

[Anonymous]

Remember when she used to have a message? Now she turns everything into advice, even when she is no position to do so. Who needs advice for vacationing alone from someone who has vacationed semi alone twice, both times in apartments in fancy small towns.

[Anonymous]

I want to be the kind of woman that celebrates other women’s blessings. In general I don’t struggle to be happy for others but there’s this niggling feeling I’m being conned by Jen and it makes me a mean cynic toward her posts.
There’s a motive behind her every word and action, and it’s all to benefit Jen.
I don’t think she’s capable of understanding the level of desperation many are living in right now. She lacks genuine empathy, but knows how to parrot sweetsy feeling phrases to her followers like she cares. It’s all calculated.

I went back and read through Brandon’s IG. He talks about healing from getting his identity from serving others and feeling unappreciated. He’s a 2 on the ennigram, their internal motive is to be loved. All his gushy Tina posts suggests he finally feels seen and valued just for him, not as another cog in the machinery. Narcissists are brilliant at finding 2’s and exploiting their need to please. So Jen had a husband and parents and an entire church serving her for decades. Then there is her friend crew who obviously embrace her version of realty and rally to serve her as well. How many moms have this storyline? Single or otherwise? I do not know of anyone who has had her level of support, none.

When she tries to tell me how to have a mini me camp since I don’t have the ability to do a month away I balk. I know it may sound ridiculous but even getting an entire afternoon to sit outside with a book and wine uninterrupted is nearly impossible at this stage of my life. I steal time in little segments, but dedicated space to just be left alone, nope. I’m not saying I don’t need it, I’m saying I don’t have the support system to pull it off.

This is the root of my bitterness. Instead of being grateful for the 2 miracle children God gave me and my own hardworking ennigram 2 husband I’m left feeling like my life isn’t good enough. I can’t take me camps, don’t have girlfriends throwing me parties, or famous friends showering me with praise and gifts, or taking idyllic trips. I’m an exhausted middle aged mom, smack in the middle class feeling the inflation pinch, plagued with worry about the future.
Jen who once was a source of folksy down home Christian mom wisdom is now a thorn in my side. Shaming me in my mediocrity, for not living my best life. What the hell does that even mean? Some of us have responsibilities that preclude us from living a lifestyle of the rich and famous.
Jen has built her life using the resources she’s been given and I can respect that but please stop acting like any of this is readily available to the majority of us. It’s not.

[Anonymous]

I long ago stopped feeling any shame cause my life was measuring up to whatever fake perfect life Jen was broadcasting to the world. I know it was and is a sham.

Better to be content and honest and humble in a world of real challenges and obstacles and tragedies then a fake, pretending, fraud.

[Anonymous]

Also my family’s livelihood isn’t dependent on scamming other people and selling them overpriced crap.

[Anonymous]

BRAVO!!!

Anonymous wrote:I want to be the kind of woman that celebrates other women’s blessings. In general I don’t struggle to be happy for others but there’s this niggling feeling I’m being conned by Jen and it makes me a mean cynic toward her posts.
There’s a motive behind her every word and action, and it’s all to benefit Jen.
I don’t think she’s capable of understanding the level of desperation many are living in right now. She lacks genuine empathy, but knows how to parrot sweetsy feeling phrases to her followers like she cares. It’s all calculated.

I went back and read through Brandon’s IG. He talks about healing from getting his identity from serving others and feeling unappreciated. He’s a 2 on the ennigram, their internal motive is to be loved. All his gushy Tina posts suggests he finally feels seen and valued just for him, not as another cog in the machinery. Narcissists are brilliant at finding 2’s and exploiting their need to please. So Jen had a husband and parents and an entire church serving her for decades. Then there is her friend crew who obviously embrace her version of realty and rally to serve her as well. How many moms have this storyline? Single or otherwise? I do not know of anyone who has had her level of support, none.

When she tries to tell me how to have a mini me camp since I don’t have the ability to do a month away I balk. I know it may sound ridiculous but even getting an entire afternoon to sit outside with a book and wine uninterrupted is nearly impossible at this stage of my life. I steal time in little segments, but dedicated space to just be left alone, nope. I’m not saying I don’t need it, I’m saying I don’t have the support system to pull it off.

This is the root of my bitterness. Instead of being grateful for the 2 miracle children God gave me and my own hardworking ennigram 2 husband I’m left feeling like my life isn’t good enough. I can’t take me camps, don’t have girlfriends throwing me parties, or famous friends showering me with praise and gifts, or taking idyllic trips. I’m an exhausted middle aged mom, smack in the middle class feeling the inflation pinch, plagued with worry about the future.
Jen who once was a source of folksy down home Christian mom wisdom is now a thorn in my side. Shaming me in my mediocrity, for not living my best life. What the hell does that even mean? Some of us have responsibilities that preclude us from living a lifestyle of the rich and famous.
Jen has built her life using the resources she’s been given and I can respect that but please stop acting like any of this is readily available to the majority of us. It’s not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Jens mom was principal of the high school, so

Say what?? Jen's mom was the principal of Caleb's HS? Wow...even worse look. I think that's just so rude. Who does that? It's not cute or funny. When I read that a couple of years ago, I cringed at how tacky that was. You stay through ceremonies because it's just polite behavior.

My oldest graduated in May and we're at the end of the alphabet, so had to sit through 895 names before getting to our girl. I was kind of insulted by all the parents and families that got up after their kid was called. They just...left. What about us S-Z's? We get no respect. Always the last ones. So rude!

S-Z's, UNITE!

I just clicked open FB for a second, and the first thing that pops up is another video of her, and the first line is "so, I might be trespassing on this rooftop..." Girl, you cannot just go wherever you damn well please, no matter how cute and cozy it looks! Would you just walk into someone's house? No? Then don't just wander onto a random rooftop, that's like someone's living space. (I don't know...it might have belonged to a business...I didn't watch enough to see.)

You are in a FOREVER relationship with a Black man. Do you think he can just "trespass" into a cute rooftop because it looks like fun? Check your damn privilege you entitled twit.

[Anonymous]

So is she losing followers and income decreasing? She used to do her schills every few weeks, then more often, but lately it’s been every damn day. And she seems pretty desperate as her rave reviews get even more and more over the top.

The thing is, the more she schills, the more followers get disgusted and tired of it, she loses more followers, losing more income, so she finds more things to schill. And is completely unaware of the vicious cycle of her own making.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to be the kind of woman that celebrates other women’s blessings. In general I don’t struggle to be happy for others but there’s this niggling feeling I’m being conned by Jen and it makes me a mean cynic toward her posts.
There’s a motive behind her every word and action, and it’s all to benefit Jen.
I don’t think she’s capable of understanding the level of desperation many are living in right now. She lacks genuine empathy, but knows how to parrot sweetsy feeling phrases to her followers like she cares. It’s all calculated.

I went back and read through Brandon’s IG. He talks about healing from getting his identity from serving others and feeling unappreciated. He’s a 2 on the ennigram, their internal motive is to be loved. All his gushy Tina posts suggests he finally feels seen and valued just for him, not as another cog in the machinery. Narcissists are brilliant at finding 2’s and exploiting their need to please. So Jen had a husband and parents and an entire church serving her for decades. Then there is her friend crew who obviously embrace her version of realty and rally to serve her as well. How many moms have this storyline? Single or otherwise? I do not know of anyone who has had her level of support, none.

When she tries to tell me how to have a mini me camp since I don’t have the ability to do a month away I balk. I know it may sound ridiculous but even getting an entire afternoon to sit outside with a book and wine uninterrupted is nearly impossible at this stage of my life. I steal time in little segments, but dedicated space to just be left alone, nope. I’m not saying I don’t need it, I’m saying I don’t have the support system to pull it off.

This is the root of my bitterness. Instead of being grateful for the 2 miracle children God gave me and my own hardworking ennigram 2 husband I’m left feeling like my life isn’t good enough. I can’t take me camps, don’t have girlfriends throwing me parties, or famous friends showering me with praise and gifts, or taking idyllic trips. I’m an exhausted middle aged mom, smack in the middle class feeling the inflation pinch, plagued with worry about the future.
Jen who once was a source of folksy down home Christian mom wisdom is now a thorn in my side. Shaming me in my mediocrity, for not living my best life. What the hell does that even mean? Some of us have responsibilities that preclude us from living a lifestyle of the rich and famous.
Jen has built her life using the resources she’s been given and I can respect that but please stop acting like any of this is readily available to the majority of us. It’s not.

Well this comment is everything. I would pay money for someone to post those words on her next Facebook post. I've also really been thinking lately that I wish someone would post a link to this thread, on her page. I'm sure it would get the person blocked for doing so, but it would be really nice to help point the other Jen followers to this gold mine of a thread. I had the nagging sense for a while that something was off but it wasn't until reading all of these pages that it all began to click.
I'm mad at myself that I spent years being jealous of her and wondering why I didn't have the close family relationships, the perfect marriage, the fun sounding dinner clubs, the super-close best friends, etc, that she had. She made it look like she was excelling in every relationship and in every department, and it left me feeling lame in comparison.
Now I look at the kind of person she has become, and I think why was I jealous? No I haven't had Botox or plastic surgery or amazing fun trips by myself or with my besties, but I have a husband and children who love me and we eat nearly every meal together; I have sisters and a couple close friends who I text and laugh with daily and grab a meal together when we can; I have a safe and loving home and a church that makes me feel like I belong; and I am thankful for my simple life of love and blessings. Jen made me feel like crap for a long time and I'm not going to let her do it anymore...

[Anonymous]

The biggest shock to me is the comments on Jen’s Me Camp post (on Instagram). WHO ARE THESE WOMEN? One is going to Hawaii. Another is in Paris right now! One woman had a cabin built in Vermont!? Looks like SJW Jen caters to only the elites now….
I’ll be over here trying to figure out how to squeeze enough money out of my grocery budget to order pizza tonight so I can have a break. It’ll be like Me Camp - Real World Edition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest shock to me is the comments on Jen’s Me Camp post (on Instagram). WHO ARE THESE WOMEN? One is going to Hawaii. Another is in Paris right now! One woman had a cabin built in Vermont!? Looks like SJW Jen caters to only the elites now….
I’ll be over here trying to figure out how to squeeze enough money out of my grocery budget to order pizza tonight so I can have a break. It’ll be like Me Camp - Real World Edition.

Plenty of DCUM women can afford some time away.

[Anonymous]

Yes, wouldn't it be nice to read something that encouraged thankfulness? Gratitude?Recognition that the blessings of a family, however it is structured, friends, caring for others brings a whole lot of contentment?
As a mom of many who had it very financially tight for many years, I am fortunate now to have a little extra. Not to say it isn't fun to get away, eat some fancy food, etc etc, but a good book at home or all the kids coming over is the best. This me me me stuff is pathetic and she does not act like being a mom is a priority anymore. I see her as a sad person and her family does not seem to bring her joy. Just none.

[Anonymous]

I can afford time away but I DON'T WANT TO. I LIKE my life. Yes I get annoyed and my teens are slobs and can give attitude and my husband can get super one track mind about work....yes yes yes. But a month away doesn't sound like a reward.
But especially with older self sufficient kids....what am I escaping? They can and do fend for themselves so the demands on my person aren't like when they were little. I am extremely independent and have traveled on my own and all that. But I don't want to leave my life for a month. And esp with teens I can see the end on the horizon. To yeet out of that time seems so wasteful and silly.

My neighbor and her husband are always "getting away" or "sneaking off" (I hate that phrase. you didn't tiptoe through the dark to go on a vacation. You planned a trip adn took it. just own it). It's so much so that my husband and I are like what are you guys running from? Is home life that miserable that every other weekend you have to have a getaway? Life is just so hard? What the heck.

So is Jen bored, overwhelmed, trying to prove something or what?