Prep 2012

[Anonymous]

Anyone know if CogAT Form 7 will be used again this fall for second graders? Want to practice on the right form. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Contact the AAP office and ask.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/directory.shtml

Likely they will tell you that FCPS will use whatever form the publisher provides in the fall.

http://riversidepublishing.com/products/cogAT7/cogspeak.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if CogAT Form 7 will be used again this fall for second graders? Want to practice on the right form. Thanks!

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if CogAT Form 7 will be used again this fall for second graders? Want to practice on the right form. Thanks!

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own.

I strongly encourage you to prep. There are a lot of people doing it and so your child will not be on a level playing field if you don't. You should know without the test whether you think your child is potential AAP material. If you think your child is, then do what gives them the best chance of getting what they need. If a bunch of people weren't prepping, then pp's opinion might make sense. Read the other posts with a lot of parents admitting to prepping. Your child will be judged against kids that are prepped and a few percentiles can mean the difference between being in and out. If you don't prep and he/she misses by a couple percentiles you will feel a lot worse wondering what would happen if you had prepped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if CogAT Form 7 will be used again this fall for second graders? Want to practice on the right form. Thanks!

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own.

I strongly encourage you to prep. There are a lot of people doing it and so your child will not be on a level playing field if you don't. You should know without the test whether you think your child is potential AAP material. If you think your child is, then do what gives them the best chance of getting what they need. If a bunch of people weren't prepping, then pp's opinion might make sense. Read the other posts with a lot of parents admitting to prepping. Your child will be judged against kids that are prepped and a few percentiles can mean the difference between being in and out. If you don't prep and he/she misses by a couple percentiles you will feel a lot worse wondering what would happen if you had prepped.

Respectfully, you've missed missed the point. If your child is TRUE AAP material he/she won't NEED prepping. If your child is gifted they won't simply be on the cusp of AAP requirements, they will blow the test and those little prepped kids out of the water, like my son did. Give your kids a chance to impress you, you might be surprised what they can do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if CogAT Form 7 will be used again this fall for second graders? Want to practice on the right form. Thanks!

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own.

I strongly encourage you to prep. There are a lot of people doing it and so your child will not be on a level playing field if you don't. You should know without the test whether you think your child is potential AAP material. If you think your child is, then do what gives them the best chance of getting what they need. If a bunch of people weren't prepping, then pp's opinion might make sense. Read the other posts with a lot of parents admitting to prepping. Your child will be judged against kids that are prepped and a few percentiles can mean the difference between being in and out. If you don't prep and he/she misses by a couple percentiles you will feel a lot worse wondering what would happen if you had prepped.

I strongly encourage you to chill the eff out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if CogAT Form 7 will be used again this fall for second graders? Want to practice on the right form. Thanks!

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own.

I strongly encourage you to prep. There are a lot of people doing it and so your child will not be on a level playing field if you don't. You should know without the test whether you think your child is potential AAP material. If you think your child is, then do what gives them the best chance of getting what they need. If a bunch of people weren't prepping, then pp's opinion might make sense. Read the other posts with a lot of parents admitting to prepping. Your child will be judged against kids that are prepped and a few percentiles can mean the difference between being in and out. If you don't prep and he/she misses by a couple percentiles you will feel a lot worse wondering what would happen if you had prepped.

Respectfully, you've missed missed the point. If your child is TRUE AAP material he/she won't NEED prepping. If your child is gifted they won't simply be on the cusp of AAP requirements, they will blow the test and those little prepped kids out of the water, like my son did. Give your kids a chance to impress you, you might be surprised what they can do!

Right, and it is sad to see the kids in the AAP program who are having problems with the work and need tutors at night and on the weekends to help them with the AAP workload. Some of the children can get overwhelmed with the work and need extra outside help- kids like this might actually learn more in the regular education program, which might be a better fit for their learning style. AAP is for kids who need to learn in a different way. It is not necessarily a good placement for a child who doesn't need that different type of classroom. All kids can learn to a high level, they just might need to learn in different ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if CogAT Form 7 will be used again this fall for second graders? Want to practice on the right form. Thanks!

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own.

I strongly encourage you to prep. There are a lot of people doing it and so your child will not be on a level playing field if you don't. You should know without the test whether you think your child is potential AAP material. If you think your child is, then do what gives them the best chance of getting what they need. If a bunch of people weren't prepping, then pp's opinion might make sense. Read the other posts with a lot of parents admitting to prepping. Your child will be judged against kids that are prepped and a few percentiles can mean the difference between being in and out. If you don't prep and he/she misses by a couple percentiles you will feel a lot worse wondering what would happen if you had prepped.

I strongly encourage you to chill the eff out.

[Anonymous]

Go ahead and prep. It's not going to make a difference. There are a couple AAPAC (AAP advisory committee) members who frequent this board, and your blatant disregard for your child's genuine academic potential is what is going to prompt major change in the screening process.

This is why they currently weigh the GBRS so heavily. You might be able to raise your kid's test scores, but you're not going to be able to make your kid gifted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and prep. It's not going to make a difference. There are a couple AAPAC (AAP advisory committee) members who frequent this board, and your blatant disregard for your child's genuine academic potential is what is going to prompt major change in the screening process.

This is why they currently weigh the GBRS so heavily. You might be able to raise your kid's test scores, but you're not going to be able to make your kid gifted.

You're funny...kinda sad, but funny

Some people say don't study, it doesn't work. To them: Leave us alone, the work ethic developed by preparing and stydying is enough for our family.

Some people say don't study, it works to get in, but it's not fair to my kid since the test is very effective only when testing the unprepared, Therefore they will not be able to keep up when they get in. To them: leave us alone, our analysis and understanding of our kids potential leads us to believe they'll be fine. We accept the consequences of our decision.

Some people say don't study, it works but it's not fair to their kid since they don't prepare. To them: Leave us alone, I respect your decision, please accept the consequences for your decision.

As far as gifted, I could care less. We just believe that whatever gifts God gave them, they should work to maximize.

In any case, I respect your right to raise your kids any way you want. Please provide us the same latitude.

[Anonymous]

Right, and it is sad to see the kids in the AAP program who are having problems with the work and need tutors at night and on the weekends to help them with the AAP workload. Some of the children can get overwhelmed with the work and need extra outside help- kids like this might actually learn more in the regular education program, which might be a better fit for their learning style. AAP is for kids who need to learn in a different way. It is not necessarily a good placement for a child who doesn't need that different type of classroom. All kids can learn to a high level, they just might need to learn in different ways.

Do you prefer kids stay in a station below them and be bored rather than take a challenge with kids at their level or slightly better performers? Most kids will rise to the challenge (a challenge is always required). Most kids getting in are not struggling! Those are the exceptions and in many cases it is not related to parents (or lack thereof), divorces and other distractors at home.

If you want to succeed in life (sports, board room, academics) reach forward rather than bend backwards.

I hope your sadness ultimately kills you watch the world's children continue to reach and strive for the top. Most of us are too smart to fall for your tricks.

[Anonymous]

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own

Wow, an anal sphincter wound up tight. What me worry about what the score would have been if I were a single parent, had little money or did not prepare him with reading wrtiting and rithematic? Get a life before you get an ulcer. Don't worry. Kids go ahead and prepare or get ready to your delight. Don't worry about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I strongly discourage practice of these tests. You'll never know how your child would have done without your help. My DS got 148 on Cogat with no help before hand. I considered prepping but decided against it after speaking to a teacher about it. I'm so glad I didn't. If he'd scored the same with prepping I would have always wondered if he could have done it without help. Now I know where he is, totally unassisted. If they are smart enough to thrive in AAP they'll do it on their own

Wow, an anal sphincter wound up tight. What me worry about what the score would have been if I were a single parent, had little money or did not prepare him with reading wrtiting and rithematic? Get a life before you get an ulcer. Don't worry. Kids go ahead and prepare or get ready to your delight. Don't worry about it.

If a child is being prepped by you he hasn't got a snowballs chance in Hell of getting in.

[Anonymous]

"My way is the only way" is the attitude of most uptight, opinionated bit**es around here. Hey! look at my kids - no prep, 150+ score, blah blah blah...

I personally don't care if parents choose to prep or not. Every family needs to do what you think is best with regard to testing (of course in MY opinion). Getting in (or not) is not the big deal, one will know 6 months into the program whether one should keep the child in AAP or not. Thats a more crucial decision IMO - pulling back to general ed will be a better decision if the kid is *unhappy* in the AAP environment.

We did not prep, DC was out of school 3+ weeks due to health issues; but got in AAP. BTW, her scores were just over the cutoff but GBRS was high. We will take this opportunity. Chose LL IV rather than center, most kids in her school do the same.

[Anonymous]

Why not appreciate genetic variation and the fact drugs and medications only work for 1/2 the population. If you belief this observation and fact then some of you may recognise prepping may only work for 1/2 of the population. Do what works for you? No one would take a drug if they had major adverse reactions to it they could not manage? Therefore, if no"prep" works wonders for your pediatric genius do not recommend or encourage this for your child.