FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw the FCPS email about the budget shortfall. It takes a lot of chutzpah to ask for families to advocate for more money when the SB is about to significantly and detrimentally unnecessarily move kids as part of the boundary review.

If they go through with the boundary changes, I look forward to annually advocating for as little money to go to FCPS as possible.

If they drop the whole boundary change nonsense then I’d consider advocating for more money.

So here's the situation as you propose:

FCPS will no longer operate your schools as, effectively, tax-payer funded private-like schools? Your response is to stop funding FCPS.
And if FCPS will allow you to continue attending your private-like schools? Let's make the taxpayers pay even more for your continued self-interest!

DP. Seems like you’re ignoring the fact that Karl Frisch wants to gouge county taxpayers by trying to blackmail them into spending over $85 million on his Dunn Loring ES boondoggle (otherwise other school projects get held up).

Between that and potential boundary changes that are largely unnecessary, it’s entirely reasonable for people to decide they can’t support additional funding for FCPS until there’s a change in direction.

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And the more I think about the bolded, the madder I get. Think of what that $85 million could do for FCPS. This SB is absurd.
DP

The money could have gone to a new ES built at Blake Lane park, which might be very needed in the future if the ATT redevelopment attracts a lot of families. Oakton ES is already overcrowded, and these kids will need a place to go to school. This is part of the reason Waples ES families are worried about the boundary rezoning process. ATT bringing in lots of new kids seems like it could set up dominoes that would result in existing, established communities getting disrupted and shuffled around.

But then Karl and his childless friends couldn’t have their dog park Won’t someone please think of the poor people with dogs and no kids. Wah wahhhh.

The bigots have arrived.

Pointing out that the Chair of the School Board has no children is "bigoted?"

Ignore the PP. They call people “bigots” every time it’s correctly pointed out that Frisch looks out for his friends and not FCPS kids.

Yes. Looks out for his friends.

School boundaries aren’t the only things that are going to start falling like dominos the way things are progressing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw the FCPS email about the budget shortfall. It takes a lot of chutzpah to ask for families to advocate for more money when the SB is about to significantly and detrimentally unnecessarily move kids as part of the boundary review.

If they go through with the boundary changes, I look forward to annually advocating for as little money to go to FCPS as possible.

If they drop the whole boundary change nonsense then I’d consider advocating for more money.

So here's the situation as you propose:

FCPS will no longer operate your schools as, effectively, tax-payer funded private-like schools? Your response is to stop funding FCPS.
And if FCPS will allow you to continue attending your private-like schools? Let's make the taxpayers pay even more for your continued self-interest!

DP. Seems like you’re ignoring the fact that Karl Frisch wants to gouge county taxpayers by trying to blackmail them into spending over $85 million on his Dunn Loring ES boondoggle (otherwise other school projects get held up).

Between that and potential boundary changes that are largely unnecessary, it’s entirely reasonable for people to decide they can’t support additional funding for FCPS until there’s a change in direction.

+1
And the more I think about the bolded, the madder I get. Think of what that $85 million could do for FCPS. This SB is absurd.
DP

The money could have gone to a new ES built at Blake Lane park, which might be very needed in the future if the ATT redevelopment attracts a lot of families. Oakton ES is already overcrowded, and these kids will need a place to go to school. This is part of the reason Waples ES families are worried about the boundary rezoning process. ATT bringing in lots of new kids seems like it could set up dominoes that would result in existing, established communities getting disrupted and shuffled around.

Is equity just a red herring in all of this? Have deals been made to ensure that the now-increased number of units at the AT&T site remain zoned so they can be sold at a premium within the Oakton pyramid?

Who would make that deal? Would it require splitting Waples and saying, with a shrug, “that’s just dominoes falling?”

What part of Waples would stay with Oakton and who would facilitate such a deal? Doesn’t Frisch represent only part of Waples? Which part? You would almost need someone in the neighborhood who could make it all happen. Someone with a plan.

That would be silly, right?

[Anonymous]

Think about it. How much more would each unit go for with an Oakton pyramid lusting than a Fairfax High listing.

Then there is the issue of getting approval for increased density. More units means more money. It means more opposition from nearby communities. How to keep them in line?

What if you “leaked” a rumor about moves you “heard” were on the table to scare potential opposition. Then you swept in with a “deal” to keep certain parts of Waples in Oakton so long as those neighborhoods kept other neighborhoods quiet. And so long as there was no big fuss about the development at the AT&T site.

Hmmm…developers and local politicians would never do anything like that, right?

And they have us fighting about equity.

It’s true, you know, the person who stands for nothing will fall for anything. Those who held their tongue on these changes and the AT&T site because they believed they would be “taken care of” picked the wrong side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw the FCPS email about the budget shortfall. It takes a lot of chutzpah to ask for families to advocate for more money when the SB is about to significantly and detrimentally unnecessarily move kids as part of the boundary review.

If they go through with the boundary changes, I look forward to annually advocating for as little money to go to FCPS as possible.

If they drop the whole boundary change nonsense then I’d consider advocating for more money.

So here's the situation as you propose:

FCPS will no longer operate your schools as, effectively, tax-payer funded private-like schools? Your response is to stop funding FCPS.
And if FCPS will allow you to continue attending your private-like schools? Let's make the taxpayers pay even more for your continued self-interest!

DP. Seems like you’re ignoring the fact that Karl Frisch wants to gouge county taxpayers by trying to blackmail them into spending over $85 million on his Dunn Loring ES boondoggle (otherwise other school projects get held up).

Between that and potential boundary changes that are largely unnecessary, it’s entirely reasonable for people to decide they can’t support additional funding for FCPS until there’s a change in direction.

+1
And the more I think about the bolded, the madder I get. Think of what that $85 million could do for FCPS. This SB is absurd.
DP

The money could have gone to a new ES built at Blake Lane park, which might be very needed in the future if the ATT redevelopment attracts a lot of families. Oakton ES is already overcrowded, and these kids will need a place to go to school. This is part of the reason Waples ES families are worried about the boundary rezoning process. ATT bringing in lots of new kids seems like it could set up dominoes that would result in existing, established communities getting disrupted and shuffled around.

Blake Lane is not, and was not needed. Neither is Dunn Loring.

Blake Lane ES was absolutely needed. Waples Mill is overcrowded after shipping all their AAP students to Hunters Woods. Oakton ES is overcrowded as well. There is no path to local level 4 without the Blake Lane ES. The AT&T site is just one of many developments approved right in that same area, and another proposed next to the NRA building that is also zoned for Waples.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw the FCPS email about the budget shortfall. It takes a lot of chutzpah to ask for families to advocate for more money when the SB is about to significantly and detrimentally unnecessarily move kids as part of the boundary review.

If they go through with the boundary changes, I look forward to annually advocating for as little money to go to FCPS as possible.

If they drop the whole boundary change nonsense then I’d consider advocating for more money.

So here's the situation as you propose:

FCPS will no longer operate your schools as, effectively, tax-payer funded private-like schools? Your response is to stop funding FCPS.
And if FCPS will allow you to continue attending your private-like schools? Let's make the taxpayers pay even more for your continued self-interest!

DP. Seems like you’re ignoring the fact that Karl Frisch wants to gouge county taxpayers by trying to blackmail them into spending over $85 million on his Dunn Loring ES boondoggle (otherwise other school projects get held up).

Between that and potential boundary changes that are largely unnecessary, it’s entirely reasonable for people to decide they can’t support additional funding for FCPS until there’s a change in direction.

+1
And the more I think about the bolded, the madder I get. Think of what that $85 million could do for FCPS. This SB is absurd.
DP

The money could have gone to a new ES built at Blake Lane park, which might be very needed in the future if the ATT redevelopment attracts a lot of families. Oakton ES is already overcrowded, and these kids will need a place to go to school. This is part of the reason Waples ES families are worried about the boundary rezoning process. ATT bringing in lots of new kids seems like it could set up dominoes that would result in existing, established communities getting disrupted and shuffled around.

Blake Lane is not, and was not needed. Neither is Dunn Loring.

Blake Lane ES was absolutely needed. Waples Mill is overcrowded after shipping all their AAP students to Hunters Woods. Oakton ES is overcrowded as well. There is no path to local level 4 without the Blake Lane ES. The AT&T site is just one of many developments approved right in that same area, and another proposed next to the NRA building that is also zoned for Waples.

Frisch is burning that money at Dunn Loring. You can forget any new school in the Fairfax/Oakton for decades to come. But, hey, they will be shifting boundaries every five years, so what's old is new again (thinking about those Floris families in Herndon who got moved from Oakton to Westfield to South Lakes).

[Anonymous]

I’m super confused how the convo turned into an Oakton discussion again. As a Waples parent, definitely concerned!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m super confused how the convo turned into an Oakton discussion again. As a Waples parent, definitely concerned!

Karl Frisch took money that had been earmarked for a new school in Fairfax/Oakton and diverted it to an unnecessary site miles away in Dunn Loring.

Fairfax/Oakton can forget about any new school in the area for decades.

That bothers people who think there may be a need for a new school, especially with the development planned at the old AT&T site, and they wonder if it could end up affecting the Waples Mill boundary and the MS/HS assignments eventually as well.

[Anonymous]

Thank you, I missed the Dunn loring/Oakton connection. Makes more sense!

[Anonymous]

The Waples community will end up going to Fairfax from what I’ve heard.

[Anonymous]

Wow 156 pages and true nature of adults in Fairfax County shows through brightly. SB is more interested in saving dog parks (Frisch) than putting new schools where they are needed and the rest of the SB is focused on moving enough good test takers to lower performing schools so that no FCPS schools show up on Virginia’s failed school list.

Reid is focused on her pet project of 6-8 middle school to make room in elementary schools for universal Pre-K and parents want to make sure its not their kid(s) that are sacrificed to improve test scores at otherwise failing schools.

Everyone in it for themselves, barely anyone trying to solve the root problems and make FCPS a better educational platform for all kids in Fairfax County.

So very sad to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Waples community will end up going to Fairfax from what I’ve heard.

Can we stop spreading this based off a rumor? I hope it isn’t true, but pretending it is certainly isn’t doing any favors.

There has been nothing to definitely say or show this is the plan.

[Anonymous]

There is a plan.

[Anonymous]

Then where is the plan? Speculating doesn’t help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw the FCPS email about the budget shortfall. It takes a lot of chutzpah to ask for families to advocate for more money when the SB is about to significantly and detrimentally unnecessarily move kids as part of the boundary review.

If they go through with the boundary changes, I look forward to annually advocating for as little money to go to FCPS as possible.

If they drop the whole boundary change nonsense then I’d consider advocating for more money.

So here's the situation as you propose:

FCPS will no longer operate your schools as, effectively, tax-payer funded private-like schools? Your response is to stop funding FCPS.
And if FCPS will allow you to continue attending your private-like schools? Let's make the taxpayers pay even more for your continued self-interest!

DP. Seems like you’re ignoring the fact that Karl Frisch wants to gouge county taxpayers by trying to blackmail them into spending over $85 million on his Dunn Loring ES boondoggle (otherwise other school projects get held up).

Between that and potential boundary changes that are largely unnecessary, it’s entirely reasonable for people to decide they can’t support additional funding for FCPS until there’s a change in direction.

+1
And the more I think about the bolded, the madder I get. Think of what that $85 million could do for FCPS. This SB is absurd.
DP

The money could have gone to a new ES built at Blake Lane park, which might be very needed in the future if the ATT redevelopment attracts a lot of families. Oakton ES is already overcrowded, and these kids will need a place to go to school. This is part of the reason Waples ES families are worried about the boundary rezoning process. ATT bringing in lots of new kids seems like it could set up dominoes that would result in existing, established communities getting disrupted and shuffled around.

Blake Lane is not, and was not needed. Neither is Dunn Loring.

Blake Lane ES was absolutely needed. Waples Mill is overcrowded after shipping all their AAP students to Hunters Woods. Oakton ES is overcrowded as well. There is no path to local level 4 without the Blake Lane ES. The AT&T site is just one of many developments approved right in that same area, and another proposed next to the NRA building that is also zoned for Waples.

Frisch is burning that money at Dunn Loring. You can forget any new school in the Fairfax/Oakton for decades to come. But, hey, they will be shifting boundaries every five years, so what's old is new again (thinking about those Floris families in Herndon who got moved from Oakton to Westfield to South Lakes).

And Fox Mill. The entire ES was shifted from Oakton to South Lakes. And stuck with IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a plan.

The SB doesn’t hire consultants until they know the desired outcome. We all have a good sense of what that is. When they finally put it on paper and stop doing things behind closed doors and NDAs, the $&@# will hit the fan.