Trump found Guilty on all charges!

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent points and good questions by Massie.

I have no doubt that had Trump filed these payments as election expenses instead, he would have been prosecuted for that and told it should have been listed as a business expense or attorney fees.

To potentially be answered in an appeal in some future year down the road. Maybe move on in the meantime. It’s going to be a long wait.

And you just conceded the point - which was to convict him at any cost - regardless of whether reversible error occurred . . . or any violations of that pesky Constitution.

The problem is that it just isn't working out the way it was planned.

DP. You are delusional. Unclear why you believe Trump is above the law. Unclear why you don’t believe in the jury system. Unclear how you reconcile the reality of Trump losing hundreds of cases to date with this tale of “rigged”.

Trump is not likely to win on appeal but as an American he does have the right to appeal.

He also had the right to plea bargain which probably would not have led to a felony conviction. But Trump chose not to. He could have stipulated that he had extramarital relations with Ms Daniels and spared all Americans the shame of that testimony. But Trump chose not to. He could also have not called payments legal expenses and defrauded the NYS, and by extension the American, electorate. But Trump chose not to.

He’s a grownup and needs to take responsibility for his choices.

Where did say any of this? Nice strawmen you've built there.

Will you apologize if the conviction is reversed on appeal and say that justice was done? Or will you pull a Harry Reid....

Harry Reid, D-Nev. has no regrets about his 2012 claims that then presidential candidate Mitt Romney paid no taxes for 10 years. The outgoing Senate Minority Leader even bragged to CNN that the comments, which had been described as McCarthyism, helped keep Romney from winning the election. “They can call it whatever they want. Romney didn’t win did he?” Reid said

[Anonymous]

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that's... not true, though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Excellent points and good questions by Massie.

I have no doubt that had Trump filed these payments as election expenses instead, he would have been prosecuted for that and told it should have been listed as a business expense or attorney fees.

To potentially be answered in an appeal in some future year down the road. Maybe move on in the meantime. It’s going to be a long wait.

And you just conceded the point - which was to convict him at any cost - regardless of whether reversible error occurred . . . or any violations of that pesky Constitution.

The problem is that it just isn't working out the way it was planned.

DP. You are delusional. Unclear why you believe Trump is above the law. Unclear why you don’t believe in the jury system. Unclear how you reconcile the reality of Trump losing hundreds of cases to date with this tale of “rigged”.

Trump is not likely to win on appeal but as an American he does have the right to appeal.

He also had the right to plea bargain which probably would not have led to a felony conviction. But Trump chose not to. He could have stipulated that he had extramarital relations with Ms Daniels and spared all Americans the shame of that testimony. But Trump chose not to. He could also have not called payments legal expenses and defrauded the NYS, and by extension the American, electorate. But Trump chose not to.

He’s a grownup and needs to take responsibility for his choices.

Where did say any of this? Nice strawmen you've built there.

Will you apologize if the conviction is reversed on appeal and say that justice was done? Or will you pull a Harry Reid....

Harry Reid, D-Nev. has no regrets about his 2012 claims that then presidential candidate Mitt Romney paid no taxes for 10 years. The outgoing Senate Minority Leader even bragged to CNN that the comments, which had been described as McCarthyism, helped keep Romney from winning the election. “They can call it whatever they want. Romney didn’t win did he?” Reid said

Why would PP have to apologize? Did MAGA and Trump enablers apologize when he was convicted? No, it was immediate whining and excuse making.

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Will you apologize if the conviction is reversed on appeal and say that justice was done? […]

Trump happily admitted to the crime, right outside the court room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Excellent points and good questions by Massie.

I have no doubt that had Trump filed these payments as election expenses instead, he would have been prosecuted for that and told it should have been listed as a business expense or attorney fees.

To potentially be answered in an appeal in some future year down the road. Maybe move on in the meantime. It’s going to be a long wait.

And you just conceded the point - which was to convict him at any cost - regardless of whether reversible error occurred . . . or any violations of that pesky Constitution.

The problem is that it just isn't working out the way it was planned.

DP. You are delusional. Unclear why you believe Trump is above the law. Unclear why you don’t believe in the jury system. Unclear how you reconcile the reality of Trump losing hundreds of cases to date with this tale of “rigged”.

Trump is not likely to win on appeal but as an American he does have the right to appeal.

He also had the right to plea bargain which probably would not have led to a felony conviction. But Trump chose not to. He could have stipulated that he had extramarital relations with Ms Daniels and spared all Americans the shame of that testimony. But Trump chose not to. He could also have not called payments legal expenses and defrauded the NYS, and by extension the American, electorate. But Trump chose not to.

He’s a grownup and needs to take responsibility for his choices.

Where did say any of this? Nice strawmen you've built there.

Will you apologize if the conviction is reversed on appeal and say that justice was done? Or will you pull a Harry Reid....

Harry Reid, D-Nev. has no regrets about his 2012 claims that then presidential candidate Mitt Romney paid no taxes for 10 years. The outgoing Senate Minority Leader even bragged to CNN that the comments, which had been described as McCarthyism, helped keep Romney from winning the election. “They can call it whatever they want. Romney didn’t win did he?” Reid said

Pp here. Interesting but irrelevant deflection.

You haven’t said why you believe Trump should not be held accountable for his actions. He has dementia, but he has not been declared incompetent yet and remains responsible for his choices, which in this case were criminal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Former President Trump is preparing for a scenario where he will be unable to attend the Republican National Convention, a decision influenced in part by the possibility that he could be sentenced to home confinement after his historic conviction late last month.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republican-national-committee-convention-trump-may-not-attend-rcna156838

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Excellent points and good questions by Massie.

I have no doubt that had Trump filed these payments as election expenses instead, he would have been prosecuted for that and told it should have been listed as a business expense or attorney fees.

To potentially be answered in an appeal in some future year down the road. Maybe move on in the meantime. It’s going to be a long wait.

And you just conceded the point - which was to convict him at any cost - regardless of whether reversible error occurred . . . or any violations of that pesky Constitution.

The problem is that it just isn't working out the way it was planned.

DP. You are delusional. Unclear why you believe Trump is above the law. Unclear why you don’t believe in the jury system. Unclear how you reconcile the reality of Trump losing hundreds of cases to date with this tale of “rigged”.

Trump is not likely to win on appeal but as an American he does have the right to appeal.

He also had the right to plea bargain which probably would not have led to a felony conviction. But Trump chose not to. He could have stipulated that he had extramarital relations with Ms Daniels and spared all Americans the shame of that testimony. But Trump chose not to. He could also have not called payments legal expenses and defrauded the NYS, and by extension the American, electorate. But Trump chose not to.

He’s a grownup and needs to take responsibility for his choices.

Where did say any of this? Nice strawmen you've built there.

Will you apologize if the conviction is reversed on appeal and say that justice was done? Or will you pull a Harry Reid....

Harry Reid, D-Nev. has no regrets about his 2012 claims that then presidential candidate Mitt Romney paid no taxes for 10 years. The outgoing Senate Minority Leader even bragged to CNN that the comments, which had been described as McCarthyism, helped keep Romney from winning the election. “They can call it whatever they want. Romney didn’t win did he?” Reid said

Pp here. Interesting but irrelevant deflection.

You haven’t said why you believe Trump should not be held accountable for his actions. He has dementia, but he has not been declared incompetent yet and remains responsible for his choices, which in this case were criminal.

+1 I thought Harry Reid's comments in the 2012 election were despicable and helped lead to some of the scorched earth behavior seen in our current politics. But it is irrelevant to this discussion, which does not rely on any unverified claims but rather on the evidence presented in Trump's public trial.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Former President Trump is preparing for a scenario where he will be unable to attend the Republican National Convention, a decision influenced in part by the possibility that he could be sentenced to home confinement after his historic conviction late last month.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republican-national-committee-convention-trump-may-not-attend-rcna156838

And this could have been avoided had the GOP just nominated someone different. Then they wouldn’t have to be potentially considering a live link to Mar a Lago or Rikers.

[Anonymous]

Newsmax! Asking the right questions!

[Anonymous]

And Whatley has absolutely no contingency plan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Newsmax! Asking the right questions!

Yup we’re totally in the upside down.

[Anonymous]

Why would he be confined before his appeals? That doesn’t make sense. He is a rich, white man convicted of a white collar crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would he be confined before his appeals? That doesn’t make sense. He is a rich, white man convicted of a white collar crime.

And typical of Republicans. The implication here is, if he were a poor, black man that was convicted of a white collar crime, there would be no laxity of enforcement and he would be remanded to custody immediately from the courtroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would he be confined before his appeals? That doesn’t make sense. He is a rich, white man convicted of a white collar crime.

Because... that how the system works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would he be confined before his appeals? That doesn’t make sense. He is a rich, white man convicted of a white collar crime.

Eh. I mean he’s shown that he doesn’t respect the law and that he’s a menace to America. He leaves sexually assaulted women and unpaid bills and a million dead in his wake.