2 days a week school in the fall?

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

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Anonymous wrote:Meant to say: If you are a bright kid, you are **NOT** slowed down by other if you have more kids.

I was a gifted kid and I just tuned out in large classes. It wasn't until I got into smaller classes and environments with more personalized, individual attention that I started to do much.

I was a gifted kid and concur with this. I was also a teacher for a decade, and i have NEVER heard anyone say that larger classes have advantages. The smaller the class, the more individual attention you can give to each student, so that EACH student can thrive. Maybe this poster is only focused on their child's experience, and maybe they have the kind of kid who would thrive anywhere. but smaller classes are better for ALL the kids. In larger classroom, I guarantee that kids will be left behind/ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:The one or two days per week scenario should’ve been shot down in the initial meetings. What a god awful idea. All the exposure with none of the learning. I would rather take over myself at home then send my kid in to school to get sick at regular intervals. Especially if I know my kid will be attending on the same days as kids of medical workers. If we’re not ready, we’re not ready. One week on two weeks off makes more sense because then if a kid gets it their week “on” they might show symptoms during down period and not go back to school. These poor teachers though, they’ll all get infected and spread it to all their kids. Why TF aren’t they spending this energy making complicated and idiotic schedules into actually fighting this virus? This is a pointless dog and pony show with the “extra cleaning” and “social distancing”.

The one or two day a week plan defies common sense.

Is being exposed to covid two days instead of five really that different?

Yes. It is and small class sizes are easier to manage. Class sizes are too big anyway, half the day is crowd management.

I don’t think classes are too big. I moved my kid from a private with small classes to DCPS with their typical class size. So much better! If you are a bright kid, you are slowed down by other if you have more kids. There are more kids for groups. I think many parents on this board are pretty naive about schools. It is bad parental FOMO or something.

Meant to say: If you are a bright kid, you are **NOT** slowed down by other if you have more kids.

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I can't stand teaching small classes.

Is that because you then have to acknowledge the kids who don’t understand or have disabilities? You can’t just keep teaching and pretend you don’t see them or that they get in the way?

Haha such a strange assumption. And patently untrue. Large classes have advantages for many students. But keep that chip on your shoulder and let that anger rage on! Oh and also keep thinking that teachers in small classes do t just “ pretend they don’t see them”. You clearly know nothing about what goes on in a school.

I clearly know about schools. 20 years experience here as a special education teacher. Nice try though!

I don’t think anything in your original post would clearly show you have experience in schools. That being said you clearly have disdain for the regular Ed teachers you work with since your original assumption was that a teacher is lazy and ignores students with disabilities. I’m sure your colleagues love working with you.

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This teacher has been nothing but a troll since the shut down occurred. They just want to rile parents up.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

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Anonymous wrote:there will be plenty of people to hire for childcare. there are a zillion out of work adults.

I am not hiring someone to babysit my tween daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

I think the onus is on you. In the midst of a highly infectious disease, it seems that closing as much as possible is good. It might turn out that closing schools isn't as important (I know that idea is out there and worth exploring), but the burden of proof falls on those asserting they should be open. The logic behind closing them is plain and sufficient.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

I think the onus is on you. In the midst of a highly infectious disease, it seems that closing as much as possible is good. It might turn out that closing schools isn't as important (I know that idea is out there and worth exploring), but the burden of proof falls on those asserting they should be open. The logic behind closing them is plain and sufficient.

Yours is the position of someone who doesn't think kids and school are important enough to take a certain amount of risk. If you consider school essential for kids' well-being and future, the calculus changes. It is all about priorities and trade-offs.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

I think the onus is on you. In the midst of a highly infectious disease, it seems that closing as much as possible is good. It might turn out that closing schools isn't as important (I know that idea is out there and worth exploring), but the burden of proof falls on those asserting they should be open. The logic behind closing them is plain and sufficient.

Yours is the position of someone who doesn't think kids and school are important enough to take a certain amount of risk. If you consider school essential for kids' well-being and future, the calculus changes. It is all about priorities and trade-offs.

NP here - also, the "it's safer to close the schools" reasoning relies on the faulty assumption that kids will stay home with their families if schools are not open. This is likely not going to be the case - working parents will need to work, and will utilize daycare/group nanny situations. Or even worse, kids will be left unsupervised at home, and injuries/accidents will go up. So it's just re-shifting the legal risk from schools to elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

I think the onus is on you. In the midst of a highly infectious disease, it seems that closing as much as possible is good. It might turn out that closing schools isn't as important (I know that idea is out there and worth exploring), but the burden of proof falls on those asserting they should be open. The logic behind closing them is plain and sufficient.

Yours is the position of someone who doesn't think kids and school are important enough to take a certain amount of risk. If you consider school essential for kids' well-being and future, the calculus changes. It is all about priorities and trade-offs.

NP here - also, the "it's safer to close the schools" reasoning relies on the faulty assumption that kids will stay home with their families if schools are not open. This is likely not going to be the case - working parents will need to work, and will utilize daycare/group nanny situations. Or even worse, kids will be left unsupervised at home, and injuries/accidents will go up. So it's just re-shifting the legal risk from schools to elsewhere.

PP you are responding to here and I agree. None of this is about protecting the kids (who are at lower risk from Covid than from the flu), or even truly about limiting the virus' spread through society. It is ALL about protecting the at-risk staff, and the administrators from liability. Kids come last in this calculation.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

I think the onus is on you. In the midst of a highly infectious disease, it seems that closing as much as possible is good. It might turn out that closing schools isn't as important (I know that idea is out there and worth exploring), but the burden of proof falls on those asserting they should be open. The logic behind closing them is plain and sufficient.

Yours is the position of someone who doesn't think kids and school are important enough to take a certain amount of risk. If you consider school essential for kids' well-being and future, the calculus changes. It is all about priorities and trade-offs.

NP here - also, the "it's safer to close the schools" reasoning relies on the faulty assumption that kids will stay home with their families if schools are not open. This is likely not going to be the case - working parents will need to work, and will utilize daycare/group nanny situations. Or even worse, kids will be left unsupervised at home, and injuries/accidents will go up. So it's just re-shifting the legal risk from schools to elsewhere.

PP you are responding to here and I agree. None of this is about protecting the kids (who are at lower risk from Covid than from the flu), or even truly about limiting the virus' spread through society. It is ALL about protecting the at-risk staff, and the administrators from liability. Kids come last in this calculation.

? When have we ever put kids first? If we did there would be more money allocated to public education in general.
I'm not sure what you think a poorly funded school system is to do?
Lose teachers and then have even less?? DC already has a sub shortage so that's not a solution. If given the option there will be plenty of teachers and likely families opting to only do DL if given the choice. What then?

There's many unanswered questions and honestly not only the students are a factor, they never have been. They are looking at the whole picture and I don't think that's wrong. The school system is not meant to solve poverty, homelessness, abuse, childcare, psychological issues, hunger, etc. (Yet they try really hard to because it's expected)

It's really odd that we think it should, if that's really the case shouldn't we actually be investing more into schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

I think the onus is on you. In the midst of a highly infectious disease, it seems that closing as much as possible is good. It might turn out that closing schools isn't as important (I know that idea is out there and worth exploring), but the burden of proof falls on those asserting they should be open. The logic behind closing them is plain and sufficient.

Yours is the position of someone who doesn't think kids and school are important enough to take a certain amount of risk. If you consider school essential for kids' well-being and future, the calculus changes. It is all about priorities and trade-offs.

NP here - also, the "it's safer to close the schools" reasoning relies on the faulty assumption that kids will stay home with their families if schools are not open. This is likely not going to be the case - working parents will need to work, and will utilize daycare/group nanny situations. Or even worse, kids will be left unsupervised at home, and injuries/accidents will go up. So it's just re-shifting the legal risk from schools to elsewhere.

PP you are responding to here and I agree. None of this is about protecting the kids (who are at lower risk from Covid than from the flu), or even truly about limiting the virus' spread through society. It is ALL about protecting the at-risk staff, and the administrators from liability. Kids come last in this calculation.

? When have we ever put kids first? If we did there would be more money allocated to public education in general.
I'm not sure what you think a poorly funded school system is to do?
Lose teachers and then have even less?? DC already has a sub shortage so that's not a solution. If given the option there will be plenty of teachers and likely families opting to only do DL if given the choice. What then?

There's many unanswered questions and honestly not only the students are a factor, they never have been. They are looking at the whole picture and I don't think that's wrong. The school system is not meant to solve poverty, homelessness, abuse, childcare, psychological issues, hunger, etc. (Yet they try really hard to because it's expected)

It's really odd that we think it should, if that's really the case shouldn't we actually be investing more into schools?

What an odd response. Of course we should be investing more in public education. But kids' best interests, with regard to their education, should absolutely come first when decisions about public education policies are made. That doesn't mean schools should solve all of society's child-related problems, but education should be the top priority.

I don't know, maybe I don't fully understand your rant because I did not grow up in this country.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

Of course opening schools will lead to more deaths during a global pandemic before a vaccine is available. The question isn't will more deaths occur, it's how many more should we tolerate as a society? It's a very tough call for politicians.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to move to Virginia. This is insane.

Is VA going to be better?

VA isn't going to be better. Fairfax and Loudon, etc are having the EXACT same conversations. As is the private school
that I'm spending $45k for.

All the schools in this area are dealing with the same issues. And they are going to coordinate, because the DMV is a pretty tightly interconnected region, so it's unlikely that one state is going to choose to be a huge outlier.

I just think people are getting pissy because they want everything back to normal and haven't really wrapped their head around the fact that that isn't happening any time soon. Also, it's clear that people posting like this haven't really been affected by the actual pandemic -- they don't know anyone who was seriously ill or died -- and so it's all just abstract to them, and all they feel is the personal inconvenience. Which is real, sure, but you'd see a different response if people had any kind of visceral sense of how bad this disease can be. Local governments aren't just responding to the well-off white people in NWDC and Cap Hill, they are responding to conditions in Wards 5 and 8, and a disease that is disproportionately injuring and killing POC.

Hey PP. Seven of my family members have had the virus. One is dead. Three family members are working as nurses or ER docs and have been treating Covid patients in Virginia and NY for months. Also, numerous friends, one of whose FIL died. Do I qualify?

Qualify for what?

You qualify for our sympathy. That is a lot of loss.

Do you qualify for a school model that will lead to more deaths? No.

NP. Do you have evidence that opening schools will lead to more deaths? No, because it doesn't exist.

Of course opening schools will lead to more deaths during a global pandemic before a vaccine is available. The question isn't will more deaths occur, it's how many more should we tolerate as a society? It's a very tough call for politicians.

Agreed, that is the question, and it is not a scientific one. I don't really see us having that discussion though. It seems that the approach is that anything that *might* lead to more deaths is to be avoided, no matter the other costs.

Because when it comes to schools, for all we know now, the impact is likely going to be minimal. That's what the study published this week in Nature also concludes, stating that there is no strong evidence that closing schools had an effect on the prevention of infections in any country. See this article, study linked within:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-08/lockdowns-may-have-helped-prevent-half-a-billion-covid-cases?sref=Of7mcH17

And this is a study that was based on the IC model, which is otherwise highly in favor of lockdowns.