Please SOUND OFF if you think FCPS is in decline!

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This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

Were you ever in doubt that this thread had little to do with FCPS and everything to do with cranky people like the Langley poster complaining about “sanctuary cities”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

It's true, though. Look it up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

It's true, though. Look it up.

https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/fertility-and-birth-rates


There is nothing racist about the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

You sound quite racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

You sound quite racist.

Are you saying you don't think that having kids with parents who speak very little English impacts the kids' performance in school? And that that in turn impacts the overall performance of the school as a whole? If people cry racism when important facts are put forth, the problem will never the solved. Let's just pretend there's no elephant in the room. I'm sure you would call me racist for pointing out that the truancy rates some of those High Schools is extremely high. You probably think it's better to ignore that than trying to find real solutions. Keep calling people racist, I'm sure that will make the schools better and fix all the problems that aren't being addressed.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

You sound quite racist.

Are you saying you don't think that having kids with parents who speak very little English impacts the kids' performance in school? And that that in turn impacts the overall performance of the school as a whole? If people cry racism when important facts are put forth, the problem will never the solved. Let's just pretend there's no elephant in the room. I'm sure you would call me racist for pointing out that the truancy rates some of those High Schools is extremely high. You probably think it's better to ignore that than trying to find real solutions. Keep calling people racist, I'm sure that will make the schools better and fix all the problems that aren't being addressed.

Substitute "Western Fairfax" or "Northern Fairfax" for "Eastern Fairfax, and "Asian" for "Hispanic," and see how that works for you.

Or shall we just pretend there's no racist in the room?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

Sounds good. Let's take North Arlington kids and redistrict them into South Arlington schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Many parents don’t want maintstreaming
But mainstreaming is cheaper for the system.

Some parents are in denial and think their kids belong in the regular classroom. Especially, those whose kids are disruptive.

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Yes! This! And those parents will try to pin it on anyone. It is so obvious, I feel bad for their child, really. The school admin are not stupid, those parents may wish they were.

Let's be clear about this thread.

FCPS is a s**t show.

They need to redraw boundaries to "spread the wealth".

They are not transparent regarding indiscretions, and negligence.

They treat those that are not LD and AAP like animals.

WHO can we vote for to change this???

You’re out of luck. No one will run on such a platform, which is self-pitying to a fault. That’s not the mindset in the county, or at least among those who vote in School Board elections.

That PP. Crazy. Let's look at redrawing boundaries to spread the wealth. That destroys property values - homes in Dranesville currently slated for Langley are moved to Herndon, for instance, would see a substantial hit in property values, which in turn leads to lower tax assessments, which in turn leads to less money for the County. And think of the optics: Fairfax County decides they want to be a sanctuary county and then hurts their citizens - legal immigrants and Americans - by redistricting to meet their utopian goals.

Transparency should be expected. If a kid is sexually assaulted, for instance, I would expect there to be notification, starting with all the kids in that school. Hiding the sexual molestation tells the molester it's ok and the one molested that no one cares. I was molested outside the schools as a kid and the reason I was able to deal with it is because the person I told did something on my behalf.

I've never seen those that aren't LD and AAP treated like animals and would like some examples. I admit that they are the 'forgotten' though.

You need to vote in more people who believe in individual rights and that all people are created equal. One also has to understand that money is a finite commodity and if the Feds are threatening to withhold funds to push some sort of agenda, that needs to be stated outright to the public by the school board.

Herndon is in Dranesville just like Langley.

When the neighborhoods in western Great Falls are moved back to Herndon, any negative impact on homes in those neighborhoods should be accompanied by a positive impact on the values of other homes in the Herndon district.

If county residents felt that FCPS was engaged in a wholesale revision of boundaries to produce schools with comparable ESOL/FARMS rates, that would have an overall negative effect, because people would perceive that the general assumption that their kids get to attend a school near their homes no longer applies in Fairfax County. However, people would not perceive a shift in the Langley boundaries that way, because the neighborhoods that will move back to Herndon within the next decade are closer to Herndon (and South Lakes) than Langley.

You have NO idea what the problem with your statements are? You are using one set of people to not only fix the issues with another, but have no problem taking wealth from one person to give to another. The city of Herndon decided they were going to become a sanctuary city. The county of Fairfax, similar. Now the city of Herndon is seeing poverty, gang violence, and the decline of their community and want to take the hard-earned wealth of others to solve their problems.

You underestimate that people will not 'perceive a shift' that way, because you are literally stealing from them.

First - the Langley boundaries are ridiculous. No way people at the Loudoun border should be attending that school.

Second - nobody every promised boundaries would not change.

Third - boundary changes go both ways. Lee HS has only had wealthier students removed via boundary changes - making it poorer. How does that work out for the property values of those left behind? By your logic wealth was taken from those people while those moved to West Springfield were given wealth.

Last - perhaps this will wake up this blue county into seeing that you can't continuously import poverty and not eventually see consequences (and not just isolated in Herndon, Springfield, and the Route 1 corridor). Stop electing democrats at all levels of government if you want any of this to change. Imported poverty is the cause of the rise in FCPS F/R lunch rates - that is just a simple fact. Hilary Clinton won Fairfax County with over 64% of the vote. It is a blue county and it is getting what it voted for. Not saying you vote that way, but a good percentage of your neighbors do.

Truth.

Those who have a GF zip code should indeed be zoned for Langley. It's under-enrolled and McLean is over-enrolled. The solution is to redistrict students closer to Langley than McLean, into Langley. That will essentially be a net positive. The school board specifically has said that they are re-zoning for socioeconomic reasons, meaning that Langley is 'too rich' and Herndon is 'too poor'. So pulling people with GF zip codes into Herndon is a social experiment, end of. The town of Herndon and the County of Fairfax already experimented by making themselves defacto sanctuary cities, and now they want to fix that by punishing individuals who are better off financially.

Furthermore, their push to diversify TJ because it's 70% Asian is also ridiculous. It seems the school board in Fairfax County is more interested in social justice than hard work.

This will not happen. Apartments zoned for McLean and Marshall will be moved to Langley neighborhoods n the early 2020s. Then, in the late 2020s or early 2030s, when the new western high school is opened, part of Herndon will move to the new school and western Great Falls will move from Langley to Herndon. And most of the people moved to Herndon will complain about it, just like you, and then get over it.

But thanks for demonstrating that there are, indeed, some Langley parents who moan about “sanctuary cities” and will do everything they can to keep Langley as economically segregated as possible for as long as possible. We always knew this didn’t happen by accident.

You are correct. It happened through education and hard work.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

"When you bring there here, here becomes there" - Andrew Wilkow

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

You sound quite racist.

Are you saying you don't think that having kids with parents who speak very little English impacts the kids' performance in school? And that that in turn impacts the overall performance of the school as a whole? If people cry racism when important facts are put forth, the problem will never the solved. Let's just pretend there's no elephant in the room. I'm sure you would call me racist for pointing out that the truancy rates some of those High Schools is extremely high. You probably think it's better to ignore that than trying to find real solutions. Keep calling people racist, I'm sure that will make the schools better and fix all the problems that aren't being addressed.

Substitute "Western Fairfax" or "Northern Fairfax" for "Eastern Fairfax, and "Asian" for "Hispanic," and see how that works for you.

Or shall we just pretend there's no racist in the room?

As I said, keep calling people racist as you seem to think that will magically mean there are no issues in those schools. I doubt you've ever had a child attend an Eastern Fairfax school and so likey have zero experience with the issues the schools face.

[Anonymous]

Justice HS is the poorest, most heavily Hispanic high school in FCPS and has almost 40 more freshmen now than in had when school started last September.

If you don't think the constant influx of non-English speaking ESOL/FARMS kids doesn't disrupt the school and impact school quality, I don't know what to tell you. And I hope you don't think these "freshmen" are all 13 or 14, either.

Stuart HS used to be a very good high school. Justice HS is a social services center that also hands out diplomas.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

You sound quite racist.

NO, you're just name calling to try to silence inconvenient truths that are being stated neutrally, or as a justification for spending even more money on disadvantaged kids. Sorry if the truth makes you feel icky or unclean talking about it, but facts often do that.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole school boundary discussion is a sh*tshow of not so thinly veiled nativism and "immigrant invasion" paranoia. Bravo to all of you.

"Hispanics generally have more children" as someone said.. you really should hear how racist that sounds when you say it out loud.

DP. I'm not the poster who said that and I am not a racist. I'm a realist. Some of the schools in Easter Fairfax are over 50 percent Hispanic kids from families where many parents speak very little English. Of course this is going to impact the quality of the schools. Why is it racist to say that that has contributed to some of the academic decline of FCPS? I think FCPS needs to figure out how to better support these kids to help reverse some of the decline. That's a heavy lift, though. The achievement gap for economically disadvantaged kids has been an age old problem, and the ESOL issue compounds it.

You sound quite racist.

Are you saying you don't think that having kids with parents who speak very little English impacts the kids' performance in school? And that that in turn impacts the overall performance of the school as a whole? If people cry racism when important facts are put forth, the problem will never the solved. Let's just pretend there's no elephant in the room. I'm sure you would call me racist for pointing out that the truancy rates some of those High Schools is extremely high. You probably think it's better to ignore that than trying to find real solutions. Keep calling people racist, I'm sure that will make the schools better and fix all the problems that aren't being addressed.

Substitute "Western Fairfax" or "Northern Fairfax" for "Eastern Fairfax, and "Asian" for "Hispanic," and see how that works for you.

Or shall we just pretend there's no racist in the room?

As I said, keep calling people racist as you seem to think that will magically mean there are no issues in those schools. I doubt you've ever had a child attend an Eastern Fairfax school and so likey have zero experience with the issues the schools face.

Here we go again with the racist accusations. No wonder people just buy/flee to wealthier parts of the county if they are able. They're not happy with what's going on at some schools and know nothing will be done about it.