Giving up on North Arligton... Is South Arlington going to improve?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools, Schools, School, Location make a neighborhood family friendly and highly coveted.

No one is saying schools don't make a neighborhood highly coveted. BUT there are some peopel (like me) willing to get lower test score schools a chance. The more and more people like me willing to give the schools a chance and the schools will get the better test scores that people covet.

Every single parent I meet at the park is sending their kid to a neighborhood school, they are not low income minorities. Things change, even schools. BUt I admit it takes a while.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Schools, Schools, School, Location make a neighborhood family friendly and highly coveted.

No one is saying schools don't make a neighborhood highly coveted. BUT there are some peopel (like me) willing to get lower test score schools a chance. The more and more people like me willing to give the schools a chance and the schools will get the better test scores that people covet.

Every single parent I meet at the park is sending their kid to a neighborhood school, they are not low income minorities. Things change, even schools. BUt I admit it takes a while.

Demographics don't support your theory. It's cute to see people root for their up and coming area. Eventually you will be given a dose of reality and want to move to North Arlington or McLean.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's " people" I think there is one or two persons who troll these boards. If I had to guess, they are just being contrary for the sake of it. Most upper middle class homeowners that live in North Arlington seem to have no real thoughts about south Arlington, or if they do, would most likely enjoy more revenue from higher property taxes elsewhere in the county.
If you've spent any amount of time in the southern part of the county, especially around Shirlington and Penrose, the changes are undeniable.

Yeah, I hope this is the case. I was getting frustrated at that post about the 1.1 million dollar house in S. Arlington. People seem very intent that it is not changing and never will. Yet I actually live in S. Arlington (and live near Shirlington) and have seen house after house in my neighborhood snatched up by upper class families or builders with new builds at triple the price of the original house. Things are changing, I don't know why folks want to dispute that. But I have said on here before, apparently if the area isn't 100% white and 100% rich it isn't worth living in.

I think you all are mixing apples and oranges the other thread $1.1M went off topic about some poor guy's assessment ($1.35M, lol at calling it poor). Basically, S. Arlington is getting alot better and N. Arlington is out of hand with significant amount of home inventory b/w $1.3M-$1.7M. Bottom line the original $1.1M house that was referenced will not catch that amount due to the hoarder neighbor. I was considering making an offer but that neighbor was a huge turnoff.

But back on topic, yes South Arlington can only continue to improve while N. Arlington has somewhat peak until we got some more schools and stop with all the teardown activity. If S. Arlington like Shirlington/Penrose had metro walkability I would have bought their as opposed to Bluemont.

It seemed like the OP in the 1.1 million S. Arlington house post, just seemed shocked that a house could cost that much in S. Arlington, but maybe I am a big sensitive since it gets frustrating to have folks put down your area time and time again. I don't know how fast S. Arlington is going to change, but I also don't think it is currently as bad as a lot of posters make it seem. At least from the prospective of someone that lives there and is very happy (and never had a neighbor ask me for money )

The $1.1M house is solid just dumpy neighbor and really close to Randolph school which is a con for me.

I tell you this we have multiple panhandlers on Glebe Rd/Lee highway, Glebe Rd/Washington Blvd, etc. I cant recall many bums in S. Arlington.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's " people" I think there is one or two persons who troll these boards. If I had to guess, they are just being contrary for the sake of it. Most upper middle class homeowners that live in North Arlington seem to have no real thoughts about south Arlington, or if they do, would most likely enjoy more revenue from higher property taxes elsewhere in the county.
If you've spent any amount of time in the southern part of the county, especially around Shirlington and Penrose, the changes are undeniable.

Yeah, I hope this is the case. I was getting frustrated at that post about the 1.1 million dollar house in S. Arlington. People seem very intent that it is not changing and never will. Yet I actually live in S. Arlington (and live near Shirlington) and have seen house after house in my neighborhood snatched up by upper class families or builders with new builds at triple the price of the original house. Things are changing, I don't know why folks want to dispute that. But I have said on here before, apparently if the area isn't 100% white and 100% rich it isn't worth living in.

I think you all are mixing apples and oranges the other thread $1.1M went off topic about some poor guy's assessment ($1.35M, lol at calling it poor). Basically, S. Arlington is getting alot better and N. Arlington is out of hand with significant amount of home inventory b/w $1.3M-$1.7M. Bottom line the original $1.1M house that was referenced will not catch that amount due to the hoarder neighbor. I was considering making an offer but that neighbor was a huge turnoff.

But back on topic, yes South Arlington can only continue to improve while N. Arlington has somewhat peak until we got some more schools and stop with all the teardown activity. If S. Arlington like Shirlington/Penrose had metro walkability I would have bought their as opposed to Bluemont.

It seemed like the OP in the 1.1 million S. Arlington house post, just seemed shocked that a house could cost that much in S. Arlington, but maybe I am a big sensitive since it gets frustrating to have folks put down your area time and time again. I don't know how fast S. Arlington is going to change, but I also don't think it is currently as bad as a lot of posters make it seem. At least from the prospective of someone that lives there and is very happy (and never had a neighbor ask me for money )

The $1.1M house is solid just dumpy neighbor and really close to Randolph school which is a con for me.

I tell you this we have multiple panhandlers on Glebe Rd/Lee highway, Glebe Rd/Washington Blvd, etc. I cant recall many bums in S. Arlington.

Well according to this board, all the panhandlers would have to go to N. Arlington, because us S. Arlington folks are too poor to give them money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's " people" I think there is one or two persons who troll these boards. If I had to guess, they are just being contrary for the sake of it. Most upper middle class homeowners that live in North Arlington seem to have no real thoughts about south Arlington, or if they do, would most likely enjoy more revenue from higher property taxes elsewhere in the county.
If you've spent any amount of time in the southern part of the county, especially around Shirlington and Penrose, the changes are undeniable.

Yeah, I hope this is the case. I was getting frustrated at that post about the 1.1 million dollar house in S. Arlington. People seem very intent that it is not changing and never will. Yet I actually live in S. Arlington (and live near Shirlington) and have seen house after house in my neighborhood snatched up by upper class families or builders with new builds at triple the price of the original house. Things are changing, I don't know why folks want to dispute that. But I have said on here before, apparently if the area isn't 100% white and 100% rich it isn't worth living in.

I think you all are mixing apples and oranges the other thread $1.1M went off topic about some poor guy's assessment ($1.35M, lol at calling it poor). Basically, S. Arlington is getting alot better and N. Arlington is out of hand with significant amount of home inventory b/w $1.3M-$1.7M. Bottom line the original $1.1M house that was referenced will not catch that amount due to the hoarder neighbor. I was considering making an offer but that neighbor was a huge turnoff.

But back on topic, yes South Arlington can only continue to improve while N. Arlington has somewhat peak until we got some more schools and stop with all the teardown activity. If S. Arlington like Shirlington/Penrose had metro walkability I would have bought their as opposed to Bluemont.

It seemed like the OP in the 1.1 million S. Arlington house post, just seemed shocked that a house could cost that much in S. Arlington, but maybe I am a big sensitive since it gets frustrating to have folks put down your area time and time again. I don't know how fast S. Arlington is going to change, but I also don't think it is currently as bad as a lot of posters make it seem. At least from the prospective of someone that lives there and is very happy (and never had a neighbor ask me for money )

The $1.1M house is solid just dumpy neighbor and really close to Randolph school which is a con for me.

I tell you this we have multiple panhandlers on Glebe Rd/Lee highway, Glebe Rd/Washington Blvd, etc. I cant recall many bums in S. Arlington.

Well according to this board, all the panhandlers would have to go to N. Arlington, because us S. Arlington folks are too poor to give them money.

And they live in south arlington?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Schools, Schools, School, Location make a neighborhood family friendly and highly coveted.

No one is saying schools don't make a neighborhood highly coveted. BUT there are some peopel (like me) willing to get lower test score schools a chance. The more and more people like me willing to give the schools a chance and the schools will get the better test scores that people covet.

Every single parent I meet at the park is sending their kid to a neighborhood school, they are not low income minorities. Things change, even schools. BUt I admit it takes a while.

Demographics don't support your theory. It's cute to see people root for their up and coming area. Eventually you will be given a dose of reality and want to move to North Arlington or McLean.

Please leave North Arlington and McLean out of this, if what you're really trying to do is sell PP on another area entirely. Thank you for your consideration.

- McLean resident who would be happy to see a thousand flowers bloom along Columbia Pike or Walter Reed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools, Schools, School, Location make a neighborhood family friendly and highly coveted.

No one is saying schools don't make a neighborhood highly coveted. BUT there are some peopel (like me) willing to get lower test score schools a chance. The more and more people like me willing to give the schools a chance and the schools will get the better test scores that people covet.

Every single parent I meet at the park is sending their kid to a neighborhood school, they are not low income minorities. Things change, even schools. BUt I admit it takes a while.

Demographics don't support your theory. It's cute to see people root for their up and coming area. Eventually you will be given a dose of reality and want to move to North Arlington or McLean.

Please leave North Arlington and McLean out of this, if what you're really trying to do is sell PP on another area entirely. Thank you for your consideration.

- McLean resident who would be happy to see a thousand flowers bloom along Columbia Pike or Walter Reed

Why, cause you don't want more people in your area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's " people" I think there is one or two persons who troll these boards. If I had to guess, they are just being contrary for the sake of it. Most upper middle class homeowners that live in North Arlington seem to have no real thoughts about south Arlington, or if they do, would most likely enjoy more revenue from higher property taxes elsewhere in the county.
If you've spent any amount of time in the southern part of the county, especially around Shirlington and Penrose, the changes are undeniable.

Yeah, I hope this is the case. I was getting frustrated at that post about the 1.1 million dollar house in S. Arlington. People seem very intent that it is not changing and never will. Yet I actually live in S. Arlington (and live near Shirlington) and have seen house after house in my neighborhood snatched up by upper class families or builders with new builds at triple the price of the original house. Things are changing, I don't know why folks want to dispute that. But I have said on here before, apparently if the area isn't 100% white and 100% rich it isn't worth living in.

I think you all are mixing apples and oranges the other thread $1.1M went off topic about some poor guy's assessment ($1.35M, lol at calling it poor). Basically, S. Arlington is getting alot better and N. Arlington is out of hand with significant amount of home inventory b/w $1.3M-$1.7M. Bottom line the original $1.1M house that was referenced will not catch that amount due to the hoarder neighbor. I was considering making an offer but that neighbor was a huge turnoff.

But back on topic, yes South Arlington can only continue to improve while N. Arlington has somewhat peak until we got some more schools and stop with all the teardown activity. If S. Arlington like Shirlington/Penrose had metro walkability I would have bought their as opposed to Bluemont.

It seemed like the OP in the 1.1 million S. Arlington house post, just seemed shocked that a house could cost that much in S. Arlington, but maybe I am a big sensitive since it gets frustrating to have folks put down your area time and time again. I don't know how fast S. Arlington is going to change, but I also don't think it is currently as bad as a lot of posters make it seem. At least from the prospective of someone that lives there and is very happy (and never had a neighbor ask me for money )

The $1.1M house is solid just dumpy neighbor and really close to Randolph school which is a con for me.

I tell you this we have multiple panhandlers on Glebe Rd/Lee highway, Glebe Rd/Washington Blvd, etc. I cant recall many bums in S. Arlington.

I live in the neighborhood with the 1.1+ home. In fact I walked my dog over there yesterday, because I wanted to see the neighbor's house... Yeah... It's pretty dumpy. We have more than our fair share of those in this neighborhood. I will say this, and it's something to consider as a perspective buyer- this neighborhood has had a high rate of turn over in the last 6 years I've lived here. I wish I had taken a panoramic pic of my street when we first moved in. I wish I could show you a split screen! I have new neighbors on both sides. Both sides have renovated/fixed up and relandscaped. I would also say that it encouraged a general spruce up along the street.
Of course , the elementary school isn't going anywhere. I'm guessing you are worried about traffic? I sort of like being near a school, but that's just me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools, Schools, School, Location make a neighborhood family friendly and highly coveted.

No one is saying schools don't make a neighborhood highly coveted. BUT there are some peopel (like me) willing to get lower test score schools a chance. The more and more people like me willing to give the schools a chance and the schools will get the better test scores that people covet.

Every single parent I meet at the park is sending their kid to a neighborhood school, they are not low income minorities. Things change, even schools. BUt I admit it takes a while.

Demographics don't support your theory. It's cute to see people root for their up and coming area. Eventually you will be given a dose of reality and want to move to North Arlington or McLean.

Please leave North Arlington and McLean out of this, if what you're really trying to do is sell PP on another area entirely. Thank you for your consideration.

- McLean resident who would be happy to see a thousand flowers bloom along Columbia Pike or Walter Reed

That's kind of the point I was making before. I would bet whoever constantly trolls these threads with uniformed south Arlington put downs, isn't actually a resident of n. Arl / McLean etc... Seems like homeowners in the tonier neighborhoods enjoy seeing beauty in lots of different zip codes. That or disgruntled renters. Often bitter renters. Lots of people didn't/ couldn't pull the trigger before being priced out. Maybe it's hard seeing history repeat itself.

[Anonymous]

Ummm... What were you saying about Shirlington?

http://www.arlnow.com/2015/05/14/two-more-shirlington-restaurants-closing-businesses-blame-landlord/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ummm... What were you saying about Shirlington?

http://www.arlnow.com/2015/05/14/two-more-shirlington-restaurants-closing-businesses-blame-landlord/

eh, Curious Grape has been replaced already, and there is that new artsy place coming in where the other Italian place used to be. Whether the rent is too high, or the businesses were not well run, it is not like there are not many successful businesses in Shirlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ummm... What were you saying about Shirlington?

http://www.arlnow.com/2015/05/14/two-more-shirlington-restaurants-closing-businesses-blame-landlord/

And, this is the restaurant that replaced curious grape. http://www.yelp.com/biz/osteria-da-nino-arlington not too shabby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ummm... What were you saying about Shirlington?

http://www.arlnow.com/2015/05/14/two-more-shirlington-restaurants-closing-businesses-blame-landlord/

eh, Curious Grape has been replaced already, and there is that new artsy place coming in where the other Italian place used to be. Whether the rent is too high, or the businesses were not well run, it is not like there are not many successful businesses in Shirlington.

I do miss curious grape! It was always busy so I wonder why it closed. Bonsai grill was good too, so I am sad to see it closed, but it didn't do much business compared to the trendier Japanese restaurant a few stores down. Bloomers and periwinkle were speciality stores that sold not so awesome women's clothes and undergarmets. Not really the type of stores that cater to families or individuals on a date (which is what shirlington is full of). Cakelove noted they are closing to scale up production of their cakes in a jar, whatever that means. I assume it means they realized that cupcakes are no longer as trendy as they once were and now they need to make other stuff.

Anyway, small businesses come and go on a regular basis. I don't think it means much in this case. Stores seem to close in clarendon on the regular.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ummm... What were you saying about Shirlington?

http://www.arlnow.com/2015/05/14/two-more-shirlington-restaurants-closing-businesses-blame-landlord/

eh, Curious Grape has been replaced already, and there is that new artsy place coming in where the other Italian place used to be. Whether the rent is too high, or the businesses were not well run, it is not like there are not many successful businesses in Shirlington.

I do miss curious grape! It was always busy so I wonder why it closed. Bonsai grill was good too, so I am sad to see it closed, but it didn't do much business compared to the trendier Japanese restaurant a few stores down. Bloomers and periwinkle were speciality stores that sold not so awesome women's clothes and undergarmets. Not really the type of stores that cater to families or individuals on a date (which is what shirlington is full of). Cakelove noted they are closing to scale up production of their cakes in a jar, whatever that means. I assume it means they realized that cupcakes are no longer as trendy as they once were and now they need to make other stuff.

Anyway, small businesses come and go on a regular basis. I don't think it means much in this case. Stores seem to close in clarendon on the regular.

As much as people romanticize shirlington as some awesome south arlington place, I have friends who can't get rid of condos down there for less than they paid. It's a real problem and all the offices moved out causing terrible vacancies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ummm... What were you saying about Shirlington?

http://www.arlnow.com/2015/05/14/two-more-shirlington-restaurants-closing-businesses-blame-landlord/

eh, Curious Grape has been replaced already, and there is that new artsy place coming in where the other Italian place used to be. Whether the rent is too high, or the businesses were not well run, it is not like there are not many successful businesses in Shirlington.

I do miss curious grape! It was always busy so I wonder why it closed. Bonsai grill was good too, so I am sad to see it closed, but it didn't do much business compared to the trendier Japanese restaurant a few stores down. Bloomers and periwinkle were speciality stores that sold not so awesome women's clothes and undergarmets. Not really the type of stores that cater to families or individuals on a date (which is what shirlington is full of). Cakelove noted they are closing to scale up production of their cakes in a jar, whatever that means. I assume it means they realized that cupcakes are no longer as trendy as they once were and now they need to make other stuff.

Anyway, small businesses come and go on a regular basis. I don't think it means much in this case. Stores seem to close in clarendon on the regular.

As much as people romanticize shirlington as some awesome south arlington place, I have friends who can't get rid of condos down there for less than they paid. It's a real problem and all the offices moved out causing terrible vacancies.

Yeah... Condos ... Not always a great investment.