Thoughts on moving to Arlington?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reason it is expensive is density which brings walkability.

Density -- and regulations. The (liberal) voters in Arlington have elected County Boards over the past decade that are all in favor of walkability. New building? Pay for the nicer sidewalks and bike paths.

Yes and proximity to DC and Metro, bike share, schools, so few SFHs for demand.

Three is a glut of new SFH in north arlington,

Most jobs aren't in DC and the schools are medicore

#getoverit

Can't afford Arlington? There are plenty of 3/2 split foyers in McLean for 600

WHERE please tell me, I will buy 4 right now.

Cheapest SFH on the market in McLean now is $695K. Cheapest SFH in 22207 is $479K.

Nah, you're being selective and deceitful again.

Here's an example of a recently sold single family home in McLeantucky for $350K...and it is 50% larger than the Halls Hill 22207 example that was condemned, and still costs way more.

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916

But I understand your insecurity that the cheapest home you could find this week in 22207 is a 900 sq ft condemned home in Hall's Hill. Because Arlington 22207 also has Townhouses that sell for $4.4 Million http://www.redfin.com/VA/Arlington/2927-N-Glebe-Rd-22207/home/23385524 , or approximately 15 times the average of a SFH south of 123 in McLean.

But using one example or another to skew a sample is called "Confirmation Bias".

In the end, Arlington 22207 and McLean 22101 both have family HHIs between $200K and $205K. In fact, the biggest homes in McLean are not even in 22101 - they are in McLean 22102. And according to the Census for 2010, the average HHI in 22207 far exceeds that of 22102.

Deal with the facts - they are your friend. If you want to talk exceptions, I'll see your 900 Square foot house for half a million in Hall's Hill, and see you a $150,000 condo in McLean Village with more square footage.

Or the average SFH in McLean: http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042

You're awesome, whomever you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason it is expensive is density which brings walkability.

Density -- and regulations. The (liberal) voters in Arlington have elected County Boards over the past decade that are all in favor of walkability. New building? Pay for the nicer sidewalks and bike paths.

Yes and proximity to DC and Metro, bike share, schools, so few SFHs for demand.

Three is a glut of new SFH in north arlington,

Most jobs aren't in DC and the schools are medicore

#getoverit

Can't afford Arlington? There are plenty of 3/2 split foyers in McLean for 600

WHERE please tell me, I will buy 4 right now.

Cheapest SFH on the market in McLean now is $695K. Cheapest SFH in 22207 is $479K.

Nah, you're being selective and deceitful again.

Here's an example of a recently sold single family home in McLeantucky for $350K...and it is 50% larger than the Halls Hill 22207 example that was condemned, and still costs way more.

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916

But I understand your insecurity that the cheapest home you could find this week in 22207 is a 900 sq ft condemned home in Hall's Hill. Because Arlington 22207 also has Townhouses that sell for $4.4 Million http://www.redfin.com/VA/Arlington/2927-N-Glebe-Rd-22207/home/23385524 , or approximately 15 times the average of a SFH south of 123 in McLean.

But using one example or another to skew a sample is called "Confirmation Bias".

In the end, Arlington 22207 and McLean 22101 both have family HHIs between $200K and $205K. In fact, the biggest homes in McLean are not even in 22101 - they are in McLean 22102. And according to the Census for 2010, the average HHI in 22207 far exceeds that of 22102.

Deal with the facts - they are your friend. If you want to talk exceptions, I'll see your 900 Square foot house for half a million in Hall's Hill, and see you a $150,000 condo in McLean Village with more square footage.

Or the average SFH in McLean: http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042

It was an observation about a market fact. Please take your meds, dear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason it is expensive is density which brings walkability.

Density -- and regulations. The (liberal) voters in Arlington have elected County Boards over the past decade that are all in favor of walkability. New building? Pay for the nicer sidewalks and bike paths.

Yes and proximity to DC and Metro, bike share, schools, so few SFHs for demand.

Three is a glut of new SFH in north arlington,

Most jobs aren't in DC and the schools are medicore

#getoverit

Can't afford Arlington? There are plenty of 3/2 split foyers in McLean for 600

WHERE please tell me, I will buy 4 right now.

Sorry you missed out. Here's four sold in the last few weeks (one for well under $400K) that you could have bought if you spent less time making up lies, and spent more time searching:

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/1168-Kensington-Rd-22101/home/9392869
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6811-Rosemont-Dr-22101/home/9404338

Have a nice day.

[Anonymous]

People know of the prestige and honor that comes with the name McLean, politicians, wealthy people who made it, royalty.

Arlington is just the place sandwiched between McLean and DC without any notable people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason it is expensive is density which brings walkability.

Density -- and regulations. The (liberal) voters in Arlington have elected County Boards over the past decade that are all in favor of walkability. New building? Pay for the nicer sidewalks and bike paths.

Yes and proximity to DC and Metro, bike share, schools, so few SFHs for demand.

Three is a glut of new SFH in north arlington,

Most jobs aren't in DC and the schools are medicore

#getoverit

Nice made up facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People know of the prestige and honor that comes with the name McLean, politicians, wealthy people who made it, royalty.

Arlington is just the place sandwiched between McLean and DC without any notable people.

Yes, royalty. More facts I see:

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/1168-Kensington-Rd-22101/home/9392869
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6811-Rosemont-Dr-22101/home/9404338

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There have been 194 sales over $1M since 1/1/13 in 22101 compared to 141 in 22207. It's not just the occasional $15M property sale, but a higher-end housing stock in general.

How many SFHs are there in 22101 vs. 22207? You'd need a denominator to have a meaningful statistic and apply a percentage. Try again....

[Anonymous]

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Sorry you missed out. Here's four sold in the last few weeks (one for well under $400K) that you could have bought if you spent less time making up lies, and spent more time searching:

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/1168-Kensington-Rd-22101/home/9392869
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6811-Rosemont-Dr-22101/home/9404338

Have a nice day.

These weren't in the last few weeks and the one you identify as under $400K wasn't an arm's-length transaction. You really are totally off your rocker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There have been 194 sales over $1M since 1/1/13 in 22101 compared to 141 in 22207. It's not just the occasional $15M property sale, but a higher-end housing stock in general.

How many SFHs are there in 22101 vs. 22207? You'd need a denominator to have a meaningful statistic and apply a percentage. Try again....

There are more households in 22207 than 22101, so the disparity would be even greater on a normalized basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People know of the prestige and honor that comes with the name McLean, politicians, wealthy people who made it, royalty.

Arlington is just the place sandwiched between McLean and DC without any notable people.

Well, there is this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Malik_Hasan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason it is expensive is density which brings walkability.

Density -- and regulations. The (liberal) voters in Arlington have elected County Boards over the past decade that are all in favor of walkability. New building? Pay for the nicer sidewalks and bike paths.

Yes and proximity to DC and Metro, bike share, schools, so few SFHs for demand.

Three is a glut of new SFH in north arlington,

Most jobs aren't in DC and the schools are medicore

#getoverit

Can't afford Arlington? There are plenty of 3/2 split foyers in McLean for 600

WHERE please tell me, I will buy 4 right now.

Cheapest SFH on the market in McLean now is $695K. Cheapest SFH in 22207 is $479K.

Nah, you're being selective and deceitful again.

Here's an example of a recently sold single family home in McLeantucky for $350K...and it is 50% larger than the Halls Hill 22207 example that was condemned, and still costs way more.

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916

But I understand your insecurity that the cheapest home you could find this week in 22207 is a 900 sq ft condemned home in Hall's Hill. Because Arlington 22207 also has Townhouses that sell for $4.4 Million http://www.redfin.com/VA/Arlington/2927-N-Glebe-Rd-22207/home/23385524 , or approximately 15 times the average of a SFH south of 123 in McLean.

But using one example or another to skew a sample is called "Confirmation Bias".

In the end, Arlington 22207 and McLean 22101 both have family HHIs between $200K and $205K. In fact, the biggest homes in McLean are not even in 22101 - they are in McLean 22102. And according to the Census for 2010, the average HHI in 22207 far exceeds that of 22102.

Deal with the facts - they are your friend. If you want to talk exceptions, I'll see your 900 Square foot house for half a million in Hall's Hill, and see you a $150,000 condo in McLean Village with more square footage.

Or the average SFH in McLean: http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042

I have no dog in this fight but I am a realtor in both areas. Factually speaking, and hyperbole aside:

Yes, particularly in the past -- 22101 has had some famous people residing there; but then so does 22207. (Neither compares to 20007 in this regard by the way over history)

McLean 22101 today is really a tale of two cities: an area north of 123 and an area south. There is a noticeable disparity of home sale values.

Arlington 22207 is a tale of two cities as well: an area of the zip code north of Lee Hwy and an area south but in general the homes are of course on average much smaller and command a high $ per Sq Ft

Arlington 22207 has more low income (by these area's stds of course) SFH neighborhoods such as Halls Hill; McLean 22101 has more low income Condos near its village center. At the other end, McLean has at least upwards of 5 to 10 Estates above $5 Million that sell each year; and yes Arlington has a couple $5 Million Townhouses that don't even have yards

But in the end one fact remains: Average Household incomes for families in the two zip codes across all of these neighborhoods are virtually identical even if the actual homes, ages of the households, etc are very different.

In other words - residents are - on average - equally affluent.

Arlingtonians in general, not just 22207 like living there. The same is true for average McLeaners.

The rest of this thread sounds like 12 years olds readying to steal the other team's mascot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People know of the prestige and honor that comes with the name McLean, politicians, wealthy people who made it, royalty.

Arlington is just the place sandwiched between McLean and DC without any notable people.

Well, there is this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Malik_Hasan

Except, doofus, that he lived in McLean and was only born in a hospital on George Mason Drive.

God you're stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been 194 sales over $1M since 1/1/13 in 22101 compared to 141 in 22207. It's not just the occasional $15M property sale, but a higher-end housing stock in general.

How many SFHs are there in 22101 vs. 22207? You'd need a denominator to have a meaningful statistic and apply a percentage. Try again....

There are more households in 22207 than 22101, so the disparity would be even greater on a normalized basis.

There are more households...but not more SFHs.

Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sorry you missed out. Here's four sold in the last few weeks (one for well under $400K) that you could have bought if you spent less time making up lies, and spent more time searching:

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/1168-Kensington-Rd-22101/home/9392869
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6811-Rosemont-Dr-22101/home/9404338

Have a nice day.

These weren't in the last few weeks and the one you identify as under $400K wasn't an arm's-length transaction. You really are totally off your rocker.

Apples for apples, my dear. Try again. Look closely at the homes in Hall's Hill that are for sale under 500K....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People know of the prestige and honor that comes with the name McLean, politicians, wealthy people who made it, royalty.

Arlington is just the place sandwiched between McLean and DC without any notable people.

Yes, royalty. More facts I see:

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6534-Tucker-Ave-22101/home/9475042
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/1168-Kensington-Rd-22101/home/9392869
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mclean/6200-Adeline-Ct-22101/home/9412916
http://www.redfin.com/VA/Mc-Lean/6811-Rosemont-Dr-22101/home/9404338

I bought a house on Tucker for $575K. I couldn't be happier - I don't care if my part of McLean is for average working stiffs - I love it here.