For those who think the IDF does no wrong

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Anonymous wrote:According to the UN, terrorizing and torturing Palestinians is the de facto policy of the IDF. To the surprise of no one of course and likely the behavior of the IDF since it's creation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/29/israel-has-de-facto-state-policy-of-organised-torture-says-un-report


Don't like the IDF addressing your social, political, and military deficiencies? Think of that before inviting them across your border by attacking them.


“Preemptive self-defense” 😭😭😭


Yeah, that's been the Palestinian argument all along. It hasn't worked out too well for them when they have been faced in reply with genuine self-defense. They may eventually figure out that attacking their neighbor is never going to result in anything but increases in their own misery and more loss of territory, but given their track record I wouldn't count on it.
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Anonymous wrote:The Myth of Israeli Innovation
Israel has long relied on Western patrons for arms and backing—even as it has cast itself as a security “innovator” the West can’t afford to do without.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-myth-of-israeli-innovation



So what?

The Palestinians have accomplished what in comparison, exactly? Zilch, apart from sporadic terror attacks. We can afford to do without that, and them.


Israel committed terror attacks on Palestinians and others on a almost daily
Basis for Decades long before 10/7 and long before anyone cared. Even the people who should care (their Arab brethren/neighbor states, Arab league) stopped Caring about Palestinians and wanted to enter a honeymoon period with Israel via Trump/Kushner. I understand why the Palestinians
for desperate. Without 10/7, nobody would be paying attention to
Palestine at all. Extreme
Measures for extreme
Situations


Arguing that Palestinian terror is ok necessarily makes retaliation for it ok. Violence begets only more violence. Without a cultural about face by the Palestinians nothing will change - they keep trying to massacre innocents, and get massacred in return. The cycle won't stop until the terror does. Then there might be some chance of nonviolent progress, but until then all that happens is that the Palestinians cement their reputation as a death cult committed to self-destruction.


Terror seems to pay the bills pretty good for Zionists - that’s true of both the founding fathers and mothers of Israel from the Soviet Bloc and America, and the modern day leadership.


Babble is not an argument, you know.


I’m Ashkenazi, so by default, I’m at least as brilliant as you purport to be. lol


And another non sequitur...
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Anonymous wrote:The Myth of Israeli Innovation
Israel has long relied on Western patrons for arms and backing—even as it has cast itself as a security “innovator” the West can’t afford to do without.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-myth-of-israeli-innovation



So what?

The Palestinians have accomplished what in comparison, exactly? Zilch, apart from sporadic terror attacks. We can afford to do without that, and them.


Israel committed terror attacks on Palestinians and others on a almost daily
Basis for Decades long before 10/7 and long before anyone cared. Even the people who should care (their Arab brethren/neighbor states, Arab league) stopped Caring about Palestinians and wanted to enter a honeymoon period with Israel via Trump/Kushner. I understand why the Palestinians
for desperate. Without 10/7, nobody would be paying attention to
Palestine at all. Extreme
Measures for extreme
Situations


Arguing that Palestinian terror is ok necessarily makes retaliation for it ok. Violence begets only more violence. Without a cultural about face by the Palestinians nothing will change - they keep trying to massacre innocents, and get massacred in return. The cycle won't stop until the terror does. Then there might be some chance of nonviolent progress, but until then all that happens is that the Palestinians cement their reputation as a death cult committed to self-destruction.


Terror seems to pay the bills pretty good for Zionists - that’s true of both the founding fathers and mothers of Israel from the Soviet Bloc and America, and the modern day leadership.


Babble is not an argument, you know.


I’m Ashkenazi, so by default, I’m at least as brilliant as you purport to be. lol


And another non sequitur...


Where’s the babbling in the PP?
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https://novaramedia.com/2025/11/25/israeli-prison-guards-are-using-dogs-to-rape-palestinians-former-detainees-say/

Israeli Prison Guards Are Using Dogs to Rape Palestinians. Sexual torture is systemic inside Israel’s detention camps.
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Anonymous wrote:https://novaramedia.com/2025/11/25/israeli-prison-guards-are-using-dogs-to-rape-palestinians-former-detainees-say/

Israeli Prison Guards Are Using Dogs to Rape Palestinians. Sexual torture is systemic inside Israel’s detention camps.


I’d choose death rather than life too if this was my fate or the fate of my loved ones.

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Israel doesn’t care and they don’t have a conscience for others
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Including us not just Palestinians
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Anonymous wrote:Here is proof they are as bad if not worse.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/11/03/the-torture-video-shaking-israel-to-its-core/


Who the heck thinks IDF does no wrong?


When the discussion hangs on “who is worse, these ‘sub-human animals’ we’re relentlessly browbeaten into being told are terrorists or this foreign nation that has received over $300 billion (with a ‘b’) in direct aid from our U.S. government over the past few decades, primarily hit the purpose of bombing those terrorists back to the 9th century?”, you’ve already lost the debate …


Bombing them back to the 9th century won't help; that's their current level of civilization, as amply demonstrated by their behavior. The Palestinians need systemic cultural reform if they are to evolve from their persistent inability to help themselves.


I’m glad you said this because such misconceptions about “unsophisticated” Palestinians are why Israel let 10/7 happen in the first place and probably it’s why 9/11 happened to. They really think they are less intelligent subhuman animals and laughed off all the memos and all the warnings they received about Hamas wanting to take 200 hostages and takeover the country yet they did just that in less than 48 hours.

Arrogance is Israel and the United States biggest problem. What they did in sandals and parachutes Is something Israel could’ve never dreamed would ever happen and her it did.

Being the richer country or the one with the most tech means nothing at the end of the day. Hamas studied the Vietcong in depth and copied the tunnels/trench warfare strategy and its one the Israelis know they can’t win at or defeat.

They are going to leave Gaza once again with their tail between their legs unable to finally rid the strip of Hamas or Hezbollah for that matter.

Israel lives in a Bubble of delusion


Yet, somehow, apparently against all odds given Hamas' strategic and tactical genius, Gaza was reduced to rubble, 60K or so Palestinians are dead, and what is left for the Palestinians is about half the size of what they occupied previously.


This, for sure. Hamas rose to power on promises of exterminating Jews and Israel, but succeeded only in provoking a notable degree of self-destruction.

All the whining about IDF activity conveniently avoids any recognition for why IDF activity occurs at all. Had Hamas stayed in Gaza, there'd be no IDF activity to complain about. There is plenty of apologist wailing about how staying in Gaza wasn't tolerable, acceptable, reasonable, a insufficient base for beginning to build a working society, etc., but it all boils down to a replay of Dec. 7 1941 but with different actors: a sneak attack predicated on a belief that the status quo wasn't going to satisfy the attackers' expansionist and nationalist dreams. Apparently the Palestinians are who Santayana and Churchill had in mind when they said that those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. From 1948 to now, the Palestinians have lost every conflict they provoked, but do they ever contemplate a path forward which doesn't involve violence, terror, or co-existence with Israel? It seems that's too complex a concept for them.


Hilarious. Moronic, but hilarious.

So IDF war crimes in Gaza are merely in response, huh? Explain their war crimes in the West Bank then?


What "war crimes"? Losers attaching labels doesn't imbue them with legitimacy. The West Bank was lost by Jordan in a war it started. It belongs now to the victor. If the inhabitatns prefer to live in Gaza with their brethren Palestinians, bon voyage.

Don't like losing territory? Don't start conflicts.


International law views Gaza and the West Bank as one-and-the-same, occupied territories. International law also prohibits displacement of people following any war. You’re dead wrong on the facts, and the law. Shocker.

Let’s try this again …

With that giant Ashkenazi brain of yours, how are you so incapable of explaining why the West Bank natives are forced to endure the same Israeli evil despite sitting on their hands and doing nothing of what you claim the Gazans did to “deserve” their dose of Israeli evil?

Losers? Bro, you’ve been kicked out of dozens of countries for bad behavior, exploiting vulnerable populations, and your general inability to coexist with others; you think a book about burning bushes and vengeful smiting of non-Jews anointed you “chosen” above all others; you got your ass kicked to and fro for centuries; and now you only exist as a den of apartheid, war crimes, genetic defects, and pedophilia due to Western welfare brought about by corruption of the American political system.

Who is the loser again … ?


Looks like Gaza and its population certainly aren't winners by any conceivable application of that word. No word salad changes the reality of what happened - Palestinian terrorists attacked, and got wiped out. Their bases have been destroyed. Their people crushed. their ally Iran emasculated. Which side won? You tell us.


Iran wasn’t emasculated at all. Israel was the drunk little guy in the bar throwing the first punch and then cowering away once slammed. That’s literally what happened with the war and Iron dome that flopped. Trump and Netanyahu backed down. The 85 year old ayatollah is still tweeting away and Iran if they weren’t before are probably even more determined to get nuke capability now in order to serve as a deterrent to Israel/the US. Also, thousands more young Israelis fled to Greece during that weeklong Showdown only Further reducing Israel’s fledgling population


Many of them are also fleeing to Cyprus, Portugal and back to Brooklyn as they become pariahs for they Nazi-like behavior

https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-israelis-line-up-for-appointment-to-obtain-portuguese-citizenship/


Can't wait for these newcomers to start screaming antisemitism after these countries have graciously allowed them to come in. Let the new wave of grift commence.


I notice that no countries are willing to admit Palestinians. Why would that be, since they such productive, self-supporting, and peaceable people who always seek to coexist with those around them?


Are Israelis welcome in the Middle East or Europe over. Palestinians? Greece didn’t seem too happy about the Israeli refugees coming over. Bibi is trying to push Anti Turkish sentiment again from
The Greek but it turns out the Greeks aren’t fans of Israel and see the tricks a mile away.

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It’s quite amusing how quickly the Israeli right wingers moved on from Gaza to Lebanon to Yemen to Iran and now Turkey accomplishing almost nothing in all locations. Syria’s regime change (to an ISIS fighter who fought Christians and Americans by the way-pay attention) was Israel’s only win and that’s because the country was already weakened by a decade long war
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The ISIS fighter turned president of Syria is also liked by Trump. He called him a good looking guy and good leader.
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Anonymous wrote:The Myth of Israeli Innovation
Israel has long relied on Western patrons for arms and backing—even as it has cast itself as a security “innovator” the West can’t afford to do without.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-myth-of-israeli-innovation



So what?

The Palestinians have accomplished what in comparison, exactly? Zilch, apart from sporadic terror attacks. We can afford to do without that, and them.


You can afford to do without Netanyahu who was open about wanting another war right before 10/7. He was under hot water for corruption charges and facing mass demonstrations, social media, and army pressure to resign literally eight before 10/7 and suddenly all of that conveniently vanished when men in motorbikes, trucks, and parachutes were able to somehow zoom past the most fortified and securest border on Earth- a border that blares an alarm if even a bird from Gaza lands on its fence somehow was unable to alert the military about a barrage of hundreds of trucks coming in for Hours?

Yeah, feed that fable to someone who believes it. Israelis are covering up for Netanyahu not wanting to face that he is the one who punished and brutalised Israelis on that day on purpose punishing them just like any Middle Eastern dictator would for standing up and demonstrating for his dismissal
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://novaramedia.com/2025/11/25/israeli-prison-guards-are-using-dogs-to-rape-palestinians-former-detainees-say/

Israeli Prison Guards Are Using Dogs to Rape Palestinians. Sexual torture is systemic inside Israel’s detention camps.


At this point, I'm not even surprised anymore about headlines like these regarding the "World's most moral army" We're hearing only a very miniscule percentage of the atrocities they commit and even then, the similarities to the Nazis is unmistakable.
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That fact there are over 400 children being held as hostages in Israeli concentration camps is enough to tell you about how evil the IDF is

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-holds-11-100-palestinian-detainees-in-its-prisons-rights-groups/3677419
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Anonymous wrote:That fact there are over 400 children being held as hostages in Israeli concentration camps is enough to tell you about how evil the IDF is

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-holds-11-100-palestinian-detainees-in-its-prisons-rights-groups/3677419


And not a single MSM report on the AMERICAN Palestinian teen who was held hostage by f***ing isr, who was finally released. Held w/o trial for 9 months. Beaten, starved, covered in scabies and not allowed any contact w/ his family. His family is in Florida and they're business owners, so basically, American citizens who are Palestinian have taxation and no representation....but we had to hear about that "poor little innocent" monstrous scum Edan Alexander every 5 seconds who went to join that baby death squad (instead of serving in the US military). And after he was released in good faith w/ nothing in return (and not starving or abused), the demon wants to go back there to do more killing. How is he any different from scum who leave to join ISIS? He ISN'T. Frankly, ISIS and isr are aligned. Same evil....right down to r*ping their hostages. His ilk only knew to accuse Hamas of everything Zionists have done from the literal foundation of that s-hole...but Sarah Hurwitz wants to make sure you never get educated about that wall of carnage over 75 years.

Let's also not forget that Ms. Rachel has now been nominated as "Antisemite of the year" because she deigned to say no children should starve, which says everything about the ideology. Weird how they think they look like anything but irredeemable, repugnant monsters.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The Myth of Israeli Innovation
Israel has long relied on Western patrons for arms and backing—even as it has cast itself as a security “innovator” the West can’t afford to do without.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-myth-of-israeli-innovation



So what?

The Palestinians have accomplished what in comparison, exactly? Zilch, apart from sporadic terror attacks. We can afford to do without that, and them.


You can afford to do without Netanyahu who was open about wanting another war right before 10/7. He was under hot water for corruption charges and facing mass demonstrations, social media, and army pressure to resign literally eight before 10/7 and suddenly all of that conveniently vanished when men in motorbikes, trucks, and parachutes were able to somehow zoom past the most fortified and securest border on Earth- a border that blares an alarm if even a bird from Gaza lands on its fence somehow was unable to alert the military about a barrage of hundreds of trucks coming in for Hours?

Yeah, feed that fable to someone who believes it. Israelis are covering up for Netanyahu not wanting to face that he is the one who punished and brutalised Israelis on that day on purpose punishing them just like any Middle Eastern dictator would for standing up and demonstrating for his dismissal


Let's be real - you're just jealous of Israel's success, embarrassed at decades of Palestinian stagnation and failures, and mortified by their rejection by every other Arab society, including those who signed the Abraham Accords and have moved on from fantasies of regional domination to a commendable goal of peaceful co-existence.
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