do you let friends stay at your second home?

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Anonymous wrote:It is totally unreasonable for them to ask. If I regularly give a person a ride in my car then I have plans to go out of town for a couple of weeks , it isn’t reasonable the person asks to borrow my car. They can go get a rental car.

Your house is an asset and you can rent it for probably $1000 for a spring weekend. Friends wouldn’t ask for a $1000 so why do they think it is ok to use something worth $1000.

It is a slippery slope. Once you say yes these friends will continue to pester you. Just say it is being rented off the books 📚 n case they can see the online schedule of when it is rented through a booking agency.

this is really good advice, thank you.
I think some ppl just assume being someone has a second home, they can afford that 1000 hit. These ppl know us well enough to know we cannot. Although we enjoy it, often with them, it is a business, and someone must pay the utilities, cable, internet, etc.
I suppose that's why it feels funny to us.
It could also be booked at the last minute, and has before.

Actually, it's not good advice to lie to your friends...

DP here. If you were the one that owned the second home, you would feel differently. I completely agree that people see those who own a second home as "rich" or able to take the monatery hit - to "treat" others (at others discretion, of course!). Who doesn't like trying to spend other people's money? I distance myself from those types, because they are exactly as clueless as you would expect.

So true.

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Anonymous wrote:I would say no. It’s weird and entitled for them to ask, particularly if not accompanied by an offer to pay.

I agree! Extremely entitled. They had the gall to ask, and you can say no. “I’m sorry, it’s closed up for the season!”

You guys have to be the cheapest group of people I've ever seen. You have the house. You are paying for it. Will it kill you if your kindly say yes? I am so glad I have more generous friends than you. Sometimes we want to borrow things from our friends. I feel like it's the least I can do for good friends.

Great example here of a freeloader. 😀👍

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Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

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Anonymous wrote:I would say no. It’s weird and entitled for them to ask, particularly if not accompanied by an offer to pay.

I agree! Extremely entitled. They had the gall to ask, and you can say no. “I’m sorry, it’s closed up for the season!”

You guys have to be the cheapest group of people I've ever seen. You have the house. You are paying for it. Will it kill you if your kindly say yes? I am so glad I have more generous friends than you. Sometimes we want to borrow things from our friends. I feel like it's the least I can do for good friends.

Great example here of a freeloader. 😀👍

X10000 exactly - they choose not to get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Do you want to tour it?! I'll pay for your airfare; let me know when you can leave your 9-5 shift! I'm not from the US, so a ranch to you and me may be different. Our home has some acres ≤5 and a mini farm where guests can get cage-free eggs. It's big enough to shoot clay pigeons out in the open without disturbing neighbors, I'll tell you that.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a lake home that we rent out and ppl rent it year round but not so much in the winter.
We were scheduled to go a couple weeks ago but it was really bad weather so we didn't go. We had invited our friends to go with us. They do go with us several times in the summer.
We are not in town (or the state for that matter) this weekend and our friends want to go up and stay, without us.
We feel funny about it. We haven't received any rental inquiries for this weekend so I doubt it will be rented.
But, I would never ask someone this.
Is it odd?

I would just say that it doesn’t work for you because the cleaners aren’t available afterwards for the next renter, regardless of whether that’s true.

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Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Do you want to tour it?! I'll pay for your airfare; let me know when you can leave your 9-5 shift! I'm not from the US, so a ranch to you and me may be different. Our home has some acres ≤5 and a mini farm where guests can get cage-free eggs. It's big enough to shoot clay pigeons out in the open without disturbing neighbors, I'll tell you that.

Yes please. Ready to go, I can get my ski gear ready in a few minutes. I was there last April and was already considering a late trip in the next week or two. Would prefer to catch a ride on your private plane though. But it might be easier, since it's a part of your rental properties, to post the link.

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Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Who are you to determine what someone else has and reduce it to dreams, sounds like you are the one who wishes they had this lol. Born and bred in UT where my family has owned a resort in Park for some generations now. There are very few actual ranches left but really big estates with plenty of acres for farming.

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Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Who are you to determine what someone else has and reduce it to dreams, sounds like you are the one who wishes they had this lol. Born and bred in UT where my family has owned a resort in Park for some generations now. There are very few actual ranches left but really big estates with plenty of acres for farming.

Are you an Eccles?

Yes I would love a house in Deer Valley/Park City. We've looked at them in fact. Two good friends have bought houses there in the last 2 years, one of whom is now there full time.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Who are you to determine what someone else has and reduce it to dreams, sounds like you are the one who wishes they had this lol. Born and bred in UT where my family has owned a resort in Park for some generations now. There are very few actual ranches left but really big estates with plenty of acres for farming.

Are you an Eccles?

Yes I would love a house in Deer Valley/Park City. We've looked at them in fact. Two good friends have bought houses there in the last 2 years, one of whom is now there full time.

This thread is so tasteless. Don't forget looking≠buying, we all gaze and look at our dream homes on Zilllow. Both of you probably live in section 8 housing, give up the act.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Who are you to determine what someone else has and reduce it to dreams, sounds like you are the one who wishes they had this lol. Born and bred in UT where my family has owned a resort in Park for some generations now. There are very few actual ranches left but really big estates with plenty of acres for farming.

Are you an Eccles?

Yes I would love a house in Deer Valley/Park City. We've looked at them in fact. Two good friends have bought houses there in the last 2 years, one of whom is now there full time.

This thread is so tasteless. Don't forget looking≠buying, we all gaze and look at our dream homes on Zilllow. Both of you probably live in section 8 housing, give up the act.

This thread has two types of posters: those who own a second house, and those who are really, really, really bent out of shape that they do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Who are you to determine what someone else has and reduce it to dreams, sounds like you are the one who wishes they had this lol. Born and bred in UT where my family has owned a resort in Park for some generations now. There are very few actual ranches left but really big estates with plenty of acres for farming.

Are you an Eccles?

Yes I would love a house in Deer Valley/Park City. We've looked at them in fact. Two good friends have bought houses there in the last 2 years, one of whom is now there full time.

This thread is so tasteless. Don't forget looking≠buying, we all gaze and look at our dream homes on Zilllow. Both of you probably live in section 8 housing, give up the act.

This thread has two types of posters: those who own a second house, and those who are really, really, really bent out of shape that they do not.

I have 4 homes on Cape Cod and the "I own a second home" people are just a reminder to not be despicable.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a second home and a seasonal rental property are two separate things. We have properties in DC, LDN, Deer Valley, Hamptons, Gstaad, Marbella, FDM, and Mustique. We only rent out the Deer Valley ranch and Hamptons house, therefore no one besides paying renters are allowed to stay there. Depending upon how close we are with the family, we let them stay at the other properties free of charge, expecting they would treat our home as if it were theirs. Over the past ten years, four of DS's friends' families have stayed at our Marbella and FDM house. The staff took pics of the aftermath when they left; it was spotless! Two divorcee friends needed a break and stayed at the Gstaad and Mustique home, which was still very clean. However, a relative trashed our LDN home once... needless to say, they were obviously blacklisted. Go with your gut, OP.

In your dreams you have those houses. Where would a ranch be at Deer Valley? It's a resort adjacent to Park City. It's very built up there. There are large houses but there are not ranches in Deer Valley.

Who are you to determine what someone else has and reduce it to dreams, sounds like you are the one who wishes they had this lol. Born and bred in UT where my family has owned a resort in Park for some generations now. There are very few actual ranches left but really big estates with plenty of acres for farming.

Are you an Eccles?

Yes I would love a house in Deer Valley/Park City. We've looked at them in fact. Two good friends have bought houses there in the last 2 years, one of whom is now there full time.

This thread is so tasteless. Don't forget looking≠buying, we all gaze and look at our dream homes on Zilllow. Both of you probably live in section 8 housing, give up the act.

This thread has two types of posters: those who own a second house, and those who are really, really, really bent out of shape that they do not.

I have 4 homes on Cape Cod and the "I own a second home" people are just a reminder to not be despicable.

Sure ya do. Because the posters who own many homes are the ones who come here to complain. Uh huh. Whatever you say. /s.

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It’s truly amazing the number of old European aristocratic

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Anonymous wrote:It’s truly amazing the number of old European aristocratic

Families are posting on DCUM.