I'm the PP you responded to.. My point is that, we won't get the $10M through savings alone but only through a combination of savings and growth and it doesn't matter if takes a couple of years longer. Over the last decade, our net worth has doubled every 7 years. Going forward, it may not happen (different market I think) but will likely double at a slower pace, say 10 years. We should still be at $10 million in another 5 years. DW (53) makes about $250K and we save $80K of that. It may shave a year or two off the time it takes for us to reach the $10M mark, but to what end? It's not like we are waiting on that milestone to do something big. I've been asking her to slow down and maybe get a govt. gig so she can take it easy. |
52 NW $3M and in my case I work because millions of dollars ain’t what it used to be. I make $230K. |
PP here. I don't "imagine that people who have millions and quit their jobs just sit in their houses." I imagine that I would. Big difference. |
For all the talk of endless things to do in retirement, many find such activities boring and meaningless. After 6-12 months of “retirement,” such people need to find something to do.
If you enjoy what you do, people oftentimes still want to be involved, have a platform for their viewpoint, and a place where everyone knows their name (Cheers!). Academics, boards, the fine arts, lots of independent service businesses - consultancies, investment practices, attorney practices - and some federal agencies (senior advisor) have lots of people like this hanging around. Also, a little extra money never hurt anyone and living solely off one’s investments is expensive. |
As you get older, you get lazy and don’t want to learn new tricks. For all the people who say they’ll learn to play an instrument, learn a foreign language, write a novel, etc., most do not. Why? Because once they try these things, they realize that they’re terrible at it, that it’s going to take years to perfect, they don’t want another “job,” and no one wants their crappy output. The result? Keep doing what you’ve spent your adult life doing, but maybe with a twist and less vigorously. |
its not just that- we'd have to have over 10 million to generate the kind of income that the job brings in- that is why it is hard to stop at 7 mill and n top of that- you wouldn't have enough to help your kids and even Zillow and Redfin are openly admitting that people can't buy homes without downpayment help from family so 7 million seems like a lot saved up but it isn't enough when you are in your prime earning years. we moved to a LCOL city after one of us didnt make partner and bought right before covid but even here- well, I was raised UMC I have a certain level that I find normal, and I cant afford that on less then 12-15 million saved. |
Because op at that point they do it for pleasure. Imagine your job if you did not have to worry about job security, bills, health insurance…. |
+1 We need more quality people going into this area. The best way to help that kid is to do what he plans---provide funds for them for future, for a house, for kid's education, etc. |
Yeah, $3M is not enough at 52 to retire if you are living a lifestyle of $200K+. Unless you plan to downsize to a LCOL and not travel. Not to mention, if you retire before 65, you can expect to spend $20-25K for a couple to have health insurance. So working a job you like is about more than just the paycheck. |
You want more money to give to your kids. |
My husband could have retired at 52 but all of his friends were working and the only people not working were old guys. So he worked until he was an old guy of 61. He made a lot of money during those ten years plus ten more years of compounding in a period of high equity growth. So our base net worth more than doubled and we added more to it. |
Because our net worth is about $2 million and people on this forum told me it wasn't enough to retire in my 30s. |
Overwhelmingly, most people waste their unstructured time, so making and counting money becomes the default goal. The one with the most dollars when the music stops, wins. Stupid, I know, but true in many circles. |
Haven't read all 16 pgs but for me - bc IDK that my millions are enough to retire at 43 and last me forever. Sure they'd generate a return and keep growing but I have no control if the market is flat for the next 4 yrs or goes down for a few years.
So I guess - not enough millions yet. |
And yet your parents afforded it on far less, even adjusted for inflation. A house for your child is under $1M not $4M. |