Good schools EoTP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SH (and likely Jefferson) will gentrify like Hardy and become a more accepted neighborhood option eventually. Its rather hard to convince ppl to opt in and try it (flaws and all) when there continues to be a very strong, rather embedded neighborhood culture against doing so.

This is not going to happen anytime in the next 10-15 years. People said the same thing 10 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SH (and likely Jefferson) will gentrify like Hardy and become a more accepted neighborhood option eventually. Its rather hard to convince ppl to opt in and try it (flaws and all) when there continues to be a very strong, rather embedded neighborhood culture against doing so.

Got it, the strong embedded neighborhood culture hostile to UMC families enrolling is the crux of the problem at SH and Jefferson.

The problem can't possibly be the dearth of definite at-grade level humanities and science classes, or a transparent system for placing students in advanced classes.

Signed
Difficult Asian parents who, for some strange reason, won't enroll our children in middle schools that are 0% Asian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, not only is this thread dominated by CH families but also many which have no empathy for current families, particularly the families on their high horse who bought a while ago posting condescendingly.

Those who are staying and think money is going to solve the problem with a good private school are naive. There is a very high probability your child will not get in. Limited spots, highly competitive. Each year it gets even more so. You might be moving to the burbs too or driving a very long distance to go to some subpar middle and high school. You need to have plan B and C.

The families who bought a while ago make a fair point in chiming in to remind us of of the challenges they faced on CH before the neighborhood was half as upscale as it now is. They took risks buying in-boundary for Brent, Maury, Ludlow etc. Worth remembering that their Plan A was to avoid getting mugged or having their homes burgled, and to organize like mad to improve their children's struggling Title 1 elementary schools.

I'm not buying that there's a shortage of seats in DC private schools that run you 35K+ a year. Over the years, every Hill family we know who wanted a tony private found one willing to enroll their kid, if not a Top 5 school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SH (and likely Jefferson) will gentrify like Hardy and become a more accepted neighborhood option eventually. Its rather hard to convince ppl to opt in and try it (flaws and all) when there continues to be a very strong, rather embedded neighborhood culture against doing so.

Got it, the strong embedded neighborhood culture hostile to UMC families enrolling is the crux of the problem at SH and Jefferson.

The problem can't possibly be the dearth of definite at-grade level humanities and science classes, or a transparent system for placing students in advanced classes.

Signed
Difficult Asian parents who, for some strange reason, won't enroll our children in middle schools that are 0% Asian

Asian families don't exist in the good-schools-EoTP-game, outside of a handful of elementary schools where they're a tiny minority. They aren't even an afterthought at middle schools EotP yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, not only is this thread dominated by CH families but also many which have no empathy for current families, particularly the families on their high horse who bought a while ago posting condescendingly.

Those who are staying and think money is going to solve the problem with a good private school are naive. There is a very high probability your child will not get in. Limited spots, highly competitive. Each year it gets even more so. You might be moving to the burbs too or driving a very long distance to go to some subpar middle and high school. You need to have plan B and C.

The families who bought a while ago make a fair point in chiming in to remind us of of the challenges they faced on CH before the neighborhood was half as upscale as it now is. They took risks buying in-boundary for Brent, Maury, Ludlow etc. Worth remembering that their Plan A was to avoid getting mugged or having their homes burgled, and to organize like mad to improve their children's struggling Title 1 elementary schools.

I'm not buying that there's a shortage of seats in DC private schools that run you 35K+ a year. Over the years, every Hill family we know who wanted a tony private found one willing to enroll their kid, if not a Top 5 school.

Things have changed a lot over the years. Go post on the private school forum getting into middle or high school at top privates (6th and 9th). Reality is going to be harsh for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SH (and likely Jefferson) will gentrify like Hardy and become a more accepted neighborhood option eventually. Its rather hard to convince ppl to opt in and try it (flaws and all) when there continues to be a very strong, rather embedded neighborhood culture against doing so.

Got it, the strong embedded neighborhood culture hostile to UMC families enrolling is the crux of the problem at SH and Jefferson.

The problem can't possibly be the dearth of definite at-grade level humanities and science classes, or a transparent system for placing students in advanced classes.

Signed
Difficult Asian parents who, for some strange reason, won't enroll our children in middle schools that are 0% Asian

Asian families don't exist in the good-schools-EoTP-game, outside of a handful of elementary schools where they're a tiny minority. They aren't even an afterthought at middle schools EotP yet.

DP. So it doesn’t change the cold hard truth above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SH (and likely Jefferson) will gentrify like Hardy and become a more accepted neighborhood option eventually. Its rather hard to convince ppl to opt in and try it (flaws and all) when there continues to be a very strong, rather embedded neighborhood culture against doing so.

Got it, the strong embedded neighborhood culture hostile to UMC families enrolling is the crux of the problem at SH and Jefferson.

The problem can't possibly be the dearth of definite at-grade level humanities and science classes, or a transparent system for placing students in advanced classes.

Signed
Difficult Asian parents who, for some strange reason, won't enroll our children in middle schools that are 0% Asian

Asian families don't exist in the good-schools-EoTP-game, outside of a handful of elementary schools where they're a tiny minority. They aren't even an afterthought at middle schools EotP yet.

Seaton. Thomson. Or are those the wrong kind of Asians?

[Anonymous]

Hardly any Asians at either school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hardly any Asians at either school.

11-12 percent. Where is it higher in DC?

[Anonymous]

Thomson used to attract a good cohort of low SES Chinese immigrant families. That hasn't been true for years. That group has left for MoCo. The remaining Asians, mostly little kids, are a mash. Indian, Nepali, Afghan, Vietnamese etc. It's true that East Asian immigrant families, and high SES Asian families of all stripes, essentially avoid every DCPS middle school but Deal, and there aren't many there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardly any Asians at either school.

11-12 percent. Where is it higher in DC?

Not that high any longer and almost all ECE and lower ES kids. The highest percentages of Asians in MS and HS students are found at BASIS, Deal and Latin I in that order. All percentages in the single digits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SH (and likely Jefferson) will gentrify like Hardy and become a more accepted neighborhood option eventually. Its rather hard to convince ppl to opt in and try it (flaws and all) when there continues to be a very strong, rather embedded neighborhood culture against doing so.

Got it, the strong embedded neighborhood culture hostile to UMC families enrolling is the crux of the problem at SH and Jefferson.

The problem can't possibly be the dearth of definite at-grade level humanities and science classes, or a transparent system for placing students in advanced classes.

Signed
Difficult Asian parents who, for some strange reason, won't enroll our children in middle schools that are 0% Asian

Asian families don't exist in the good-schools-EoTP-game, outside of a handful of elementary schools where they're a tiny minority. They aren't even an afterthought at middle schools EotP yet.

Asian % SY 2020-2021
Jefferson Academy: 1%
Stuart Hobson: 0%
Eliot Hine 0%
Brookland: 0%

[Anonymous]

Why do people only mention Stuart Hobson? Isn’t Elliot Hines pretty good as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are you smoking? Where is the middle school bridge to Eastern for high SES families in Ward 6? Even a rock star principal can't stem the exodus after 4th grade.

You are not wrong but I still think the new principal, if DCPS doesn’t drive him out in a couple years, will be good for Eastern.
And that in turn will be good for the neighborhood. More people will be willing to take a chance with SH and EH if the high school is good. And that will improve these two middle schools. It will be a 5 year scenario though at the minimum. I feel bad that JR got stuck with the Eastern principal as he is meh.
And yes, I met him several times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do people only mention Stuart Hobson? Isn’t Elliot Hines pretty good as well?

No, it's not as good.