The Death of Private School As We Know It

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Husband and I graduated from our state flagship and the private and Catholic school kids ran circles around everyone in the classroom and socially. I went to "one of the best" public schools in the state and could not keep up. They were on a different level. Anyone pinching pennies when it comes to kindergarten through 12th education for an alleged better roll of the dice with Ivies is frankly an idiot.


They're an idiot because there is no better roll at a DMV public. If you ever review the admits from Whitman, Wilson, Mclean, etc. something like 98% of the Ivy admits are legacy, athletes or URM. THE SAME FREAKING demographics as the private school admits. THERE IS NO MAGIC IVY-BOUND HIGH SCHOOL FOR WHITE OR ASIAN KIDS. Except many some of the NE boarding schools?
But actually I'm sure it's the same story there. More admits but they're probably also legacies, URM, athletes plus some Ivy faculty kids thrown in.


At least in the DC area, there aren't a lot of Asians in private high schools. Mainly public. Same for families from India
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the 2021 admissions from a Big3 (does not included multiple admits at many of the schools). Is there one college on this list that you wouldn't be happy that your kid is attending?
Personally I think it's awesome and guarantee that my kid will attend a decent college---never mind that they are also learning to to write well and think critically.

Boston College
Boston University
Brown
Bucknell
Colby
Colgate
William and Mary
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
NYU
Northwestern
Oberlin
Princeton
SMU
Stanford
Syracuse
Tufts
Tulane
UCLA
Chicago
Michigan
Penn
Richmond
Sewanee
USC
St. Andrews
UVA
Wisconsin
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington and Lee
Wash U
Yale


Not one bad school on this list. Impressive!


Yes, but no better than publics! I’d be willing to bet this year, the publics did better!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Husband and I graduated from our state flagship and the private and Catholic school kids ran circles around everyone in the classroom and socially. I went to "one of the best" public schools in the state and could not keep up. They were on a different level. Anyone pinching pennies when it comes to kindergarten through 12th education for an alleged better roll of the dice with Ivies is frankly an idiot.


They're an idiot because there is no better roll at a DMV public. If you ever review the admits from Whitman, Wilson, Mclean, etc. something like 98% of the Ivy admits are legacy, athletes or URM. THE SAME FREAKING demographics as the private school admits. THERE IS NO MAGIC IVY-BOUND HIGH SCHOOL FOR WHITE OR ASIAN KIDS. Except many some of the NE boarding schools?
But actually I'm sure it's the same story there. More admits but they're probably also legacies, URM, athletes plus some Ivy faculty kids thrown in.


At least in the DC area, there aren't a lot of Asians in private high schools. Mainly public. Same for families from India


And so much for diversity and inclusion at privates…exactly why AOs are pulling from publics
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the 2021 admissions from a Big3 (does not included multiple admits at many of the schools). Is there one college on this list that you wouldn't be happy that your kid is attending?
Personally I think it's awesome and guarantee that my kid will attend a decent college---never mind that they are also learning to to write well and think critically.

Boston College
Boston University
Brown
Bucknell
Colby
Colgate
William and Mary
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
NYU
Northwestern
Oberlin
Princeton
SMU
Stanford
Syracuse
Tufts
Tulane
UCLA
Chicago
Michigan
Penn
Richmond
Sewanee
USC
St. Andrews
UVA
Wisconsin
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington and Lee
Wash U
Yale


Not one bad school on this list. Impressive!


It if you placed the same kids in the public, why wouldn’t they be accepted into the same schools? It’s not attending the Big 3 that helped with admittance, it’s the attributes of the kid! So why spend the money again??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the 2021 admissions from a Big3 (does not included multiple admits at many of the schools). Is there one college on this list that you wouldn't be happy that your kid is attending?
Personally I think it's awesome and guarantee that my kid will attend a decent college---never mind that they are also learning to to write well and think critically.

Boston College
Boston University
Brown
Bucknell
Colby
Colgate
William and Mary
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
NYU
Northwestern
Oberlin
Princeton
SMU
Stanford
Syracuse
Tufts
Tulane
UCLA
Chicago
Michigan
Penn
Richmond
Sewanee
USC
St. Andrews
UVA
Wisconsin
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington and Lee
Wash U
Yale


Not one bad school on this list. Impressive!


It if you placed the same kids in the public, why wouldn’t they be accepted into the same schools? It’s not attending the Big 3 that helped with admittance, it’s the attributes of the kid! So why spend the money again??


The same kids who decline the Big 3 and went public also got into these schools. And saved $200k…who looks silly now. Maybe to continue the trend, you can ask these schools on the list that you want to pay $200k more in tuition than the kids who graduated from publics! That way you will feel better
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the 2021 admissions from a Big3 (does not included multiple admits at many of the schools). Is there one college on this list that you wouldn't be happy that your kid is attending?
Personally I think it's awesome and guarantee that my kid will attend a decent college---never mind that they are also learning to to write well and think critically.

Boston College
Boston University
Brown
Bucknell
Colby
Colgate
William and Mary
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
NYU
Northwestern
Oberlin
Princeton
SMU
Stanford
Syracuse
Tufts
Tulane
UCLA
Chicago
Michigan
Penn
Richmond
Sewanee
USC
St. Andrews
UVA
Wisconsin
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington and Lee
Wash U
Yale


Not one bad school on this list. Impressive!


It if you placed the same kids in the public, why wouldn’t they be accepted into the same schools? It’s not attending the Big 3 that helped with admittance, it’s the attributes of the kid! So why spend the money again??


The same kids who decline the Big 3 and went public also got into these schools. And saved $200k…who looks silly now. Maybe to continue the trend, you can ask these schools on the list that you want to pay $200k more in tuition than the kids who graduated from publics! That way you will feel better


I bet if all things equal and the twins split between private and public, the schools would take the public every time. The public would stand out even more against their peers. Fact. Why would you pay $200k to be in that position?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the 2021 admissions from a Big3 (does not included multiple admits at many of the schools). Is there one college on this list that you wouldn't be happy that your kid is attending?
Personally I think it's awesome and guarantee that my kid will attend a decent college---never mind that they are also learning to to write well and think critically.

Boston College
Boston University
Brown
Bucknell
Colby
Colgate
William and Mary
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
NYU
Northwestern
Oberlin
Princeton
SMU
Stanford
Syracuse
Tufts
Tulane
UCLA
Chicago
Michigan
Penn
Richmond
Sewanee
USC
St. Andrews
UVA
Wisconsin
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington and Lee
Wash U
Yale


Not one bad school on this list. Impressive!


Actually if you had the same stats and attended public, you would have received a scholarship of at least $200k at each school. Can’t say that about privates as you paid a $200k premium.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the 2021 admissions from a Big3 (does not included multiple admits at many of the schools). Is there one college on this list that you wouldn't be happy that your kid is attending?
Personally I think it's awesome and guarantee that my kid will attend a decent college---never mind that they are also learning to to write well and think critically.

Boston College
Boston University
Brown
Bucknell
Colby
Colgate
William and Mary
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
NYU
Northwestern
Oberlin
Princeton
SMU
Stanford
Syracuse
Tufts
Tulane
UCLA
Chicago
Michigan
Penn
Richmond
Sewanee
USC
St. Andrews
UVA
Wisconsin
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington and Lee
Wash U
Yale


Not one bad school on this list. Impressive!


Actually if you had the same stats and attended public, you would have received a scholarship of at least $200k at each school. Can’t say that about privates as you paid a $200k premium.


But your kid couldn’t handle the public (or at least the stress of the AP program) 😂
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the 2021 admissions from a Big3 (does not included multiple admits at many of the schools). Is there one college on this list that you wouldn't be happy that your kid is attending?
Personally I think it's awesome and guarantee that my kid will attend a decent college---never mind that they are also learning to to write well and think critically.

Boston College
Boston University
Brown
Bucknell
Colby
Colgate
William and Mary
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Davidson
Duke
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
NYU
Northwestern
Oberlin
Princeton
SMU
Stanford
Syracuse
Tufts
Tulane
UCLA
Chicago
Michigan
Penn
Richmond
Sewanee
USC
St. Andrews
UVA
Wisconsin
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington and Lee
Wash U
Yale


Not one bad school on this list. Impressive!


Actually if you had the same stats and attended public, you would have received a scholarship of at least $200k at each school. Can’t say that about privates as you paid a $200k premium.


But your kid couldn’t handle the public (or at least the stress of the AP program) 😂


I don’t understand the hatred and meanness. Why put down other posters’ kids?

As for the point of this thread, I don’t send my children to a private school in order to get into a particular college or type of college. I send them for the academics, the small class sizes, and the close community. It works for us. Your school works for you and I’m sure it has great attributes, too. We should both be happy.
Anonymous
OP, have you looked up any actual statistics? 55-61% of kids at Ivies are from public school. I think about 13% tend to be international. Presumably the rest are from private schools (with some minuscule amount of homeschoolers). Only 7% of kids in the US attend private school and I’m sure a large number of those schools are religious and SN schools that likely do not give much of a boost. I went to Penn (from a private school btw) and know that they only give weight to legacy status for early admission applications. So private school does give you an advantage. Being a parent doesn’t mean that you can put in specific inputs and get specific outputs. It’s not that easy.

I also am super uncoordinated and think that if you can play at a D1 level you should get preferential admission status. No one in our society has a problem with people who are smart by virtue of innate ability getting outsized benefits. Why shouldn’t athletes? Both groups also work hard. I hear you on the legacy thing but the universities will never change that $$$
Anonymous
My kids are in private for the education and the experience. Not for college admissions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Husband and I graduated from our state flagship and the private and Catholic school kids ran circles around everyone in the classroom and socially. I went to "one of the best" public schools in the state and could not keep up. They were on a different level. Anyone pinching pennies when it comes to kindergarten through 12th education for an alleged better roll of the dice with Ivies is frankly an idiot.


They're an idiot because there is no better roll at a DMV public. If you ever review the admits from Whitman, Wilson, Mclean, etc. something like 98% of the Ivy admits are legacy, athletes or URM. THE SAME FREAKING demographics as the private school admits. THERE IS NO MAGIC IVY-BOUND HIGH SCHOOL FOR WHITE OR ASIAN KIDS. Except many some of the NE boarding schools?
But actually I'm sure it's the same story there. More admits but they're probably also legacies, URM, athletes plus some Ivy faculty kids thrown in.


At least in the DC area, there aren't a lot of Asians in private high schools. Mainly public. Same for families from India


Isn't it interesting how public schools are still working for asian and indian kids???

interesting how you never hear asian parents saying public schools are not a good fit for their children the way you hear it from white parents on this forum. LOL!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The bigger issue is that U.S. colleges have never been meritocracies and the trend is only increasing.


this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kids are in private for the education and the experience. Not for college admissions.

Yeah right
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The quality of education my child receives at his private so far exceeds that my public school nieces and nephews it is startling. We know that he is not likely to get into ivy but he wasn’t likely to get into ivy from public either. He is however so far advanced in his education I feel cheated having gone to public school. In 6th and 7th grades he was using the same textbooks that his high school cousins were using. It was sad.


Ditto. I went to a top public and it simply doesn’t compare to the education my kids are getting. My 8th grader is a solid B student at a Big 3 who won’t be going ivy. His friends and teammates in public school are straight A students who have bragged about their straight A since the pandemic despite being virtual for almost 2 years. My DC has been going to school since 9/21. No one can tell me these straight A students are smarter or better educated than my B student. DC stands out - he sounds intelligent. His friends all sound like idiots despite their straight A’s. It’s actually comical. And yea, those straight A students may get into a “better” college but they still sound like idiots.
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