ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
[e-mail] (mailto:[e-mail])


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.

Are you stupid? you can't just merge one side and not the other...thats not how it works.

NP, but I guess I'm stupid too. Girls and boys ECNL are both called Mid Atlantic, but they consist of different teams. They could have 100% combined the boys and kept the girls separate if both were doing so great.

How does that keep the conference in balance for scheduling? It doesn't.

Boys and girls teams don't travel together. Show me the boys NC Courage. Show me the girls Skyline in ECNL.

It would still have an uneven balance for the boys side if they did that, and from what I've seen, when the boys are home, girls are away and vice versa.

You haven't been paying attention then. Boys and girls don't play the same teams the same weekends. Look up their schedules. The girls currently have an odd number of teams, the boys an even. It doesn't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:The blue pennies seems to be the cream of the crop but not sure if its the same accross other ages.

my dd was green the whole time... she is one of the top players

You sure?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The blue pennies seems to be the cream of the crop but not sure if its the same accross other ages.

my dd was green the whole time... she is one of the top players

Green and blue seemed to be the core Brave/Union team. Orange were either bubble players or players that needed to be evaluated. Red were probably external if anyone can confirm?

Just a theory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The blue pennies seems to be the cream of the crop but not sure if its the same accross other ages.

my dd was green the whole time... she is one of the top players

You sure?

half of the green was strong & the other half was weak...

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Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.

All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.

Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU

Some Mclean 12s already accepted SYC offers.

People will really commute from McLean to Springfield for 12yo soccer?

Wow. Apparently I don't love my kids enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The blue pennies seems to be the cream of the crop but not sure if its the same accross other ages.

my dd was green the whole time... she is one of the top players

Green and blue seemed to be the core Brave/Union team. Orange were either bubble players or players that needed to be evaluated. Red were probably external if anyone can confirm?

Just a theory.

for 2008, there were no red... It was green, orange, blue
I think the blue was top girls from the start. There were more players wearing green

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.

All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.

Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU

Some Mclean 12s already accepted SYC offers.

People will really commute from McLean to Springfield for 12yo soccer?

Wow. Apparently I don't love my kids enough.

we have players from Fredericksburg to McLean... You also have players from Richmond to NVA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
[e-mail] (mailto:[e-mail])


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.

Are you stupid? you can't just merge one side and not the other...thats not how it works.

NP, but I guess I'm stupid too. Girls and boys ECNL are both called Mid Atlantic, but they consist of different teams. They could have 100% combined the boys and kept the girls separate if both were doing so great.

How does that keep the conference in balance for scheduling? It doesn't.

Boys and girls teams don't travel together. Show me the boys NC Courage. Show me the girls Skyline in ECNL.

It would still have an uneven balance for the boys side if they did that, and from what I've seen, when the boys are home, girls are away and vice versa.

You haven't been paying attention then. Boys and girls don't play the same teams the same weekends. Look up their schedules. The girls currently have an odd number of teams, the boys an even. It doesn't matter.

Interesting. Doesn't help ECNL's case then.

[Anonymous]

Considering there’s a separate app for boys and girls ECNL, it seems like it’s not all or none: https://theecnl.com/sports/2023/11/27/ECNL%20Application.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.

All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.

Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU

Some Mclean 12s already accepted SYC offers.

People will really commute from McLean to Springfield for 12yo soccer?

Wow. Apparently I don't love my kids enough.

we have players from Fredericksburg to McLean... You also have players from Richmond to NVA

Very unlikely the Richmond player is training with the team multiple days a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The blue pennies seems to be the cream of the crop but not sure if its the same accross other ages.

my dd was green the whole time... she is one of the top players

You sure?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.

All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.

Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU

Some Mclean 12s already accepted SYC offers.

People will really commute from McLean to Springfield for 12yo soccer?

Wow. Apparently I don't love my kids enough.

we have players from Fredericksburg to McLean... You also have players from Richmond to NVA

Very unlikely the Richmond player is training with the team multiple days a week.

Not sure they will continue for next season

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The blue pennies seems to be the cream of the crop but not sure if its the same accross other ages.

my dd was green the whole time... she is one of the top players

Green and blue seemed to be the core Brave/Union team. Orange were either bubble players or players that needed to be evaluated. Red were probably external if anyone can confirm?

Just a theory.

for 2008, there were no red... It was green, orange, blue
I think the blue was top girls from the start. There were more players wearing green

Green might be McLean players??

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

This is what really happened:
1- JW accepts an offer from Arlington mid-January
2 - McLean BOD panics and tries desperately to poach top coaches from neighboring clubs. It fails.
3 - Braves and McLean gets a warning from ECNL.
4 - Given their inability to recruit a solid coaching slate for the boy side, McLean BOD figures it is their way out. They negotiate to keep control of the girl side while they surrender the boy side.