Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

Well, if the bar is that low and you think you could do a better job of representing "the will of the community" then you should step up.

Otherwise, your whining about it is a waste of time.

People don't want to do it because it isn't supposed to do anything besides liquor permits, deck approval, helping people use 311 and keeping neighbors informed of what's happening. Nobody expected this crop to go completely off the reservation because they didn't like what the job entailed and couldn't be bothered to engage the community.

Now we have current ANCs saying their neighbors are irrelevent, the needs and desires of the community are irrelevent and it's too hard to get everyone's email.

The ANC’s scope is in the statute is literally to comment on any issue that impacts their commission area. You’re really missing the mark and I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. That the statute should change? That DDOT improperly consulted the ANC (despite the fact that the law says DDOT had to give notice to ANC and great weight to its views?)

I get it, you dislike the ANC views. That does not change the law.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

How do you feel about abolishing ANCs, then?

DP: I'm all for it. I used to appreciate them for the thankless tasks but after what they did with Connecticut Avenue, and the express statements from some of them here, it needs to be put out to pasture.

It is DDOT’s plan. DDOT. An agency under mayoral control.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

yes, I agree with you. it’s not direct democracy. but ANC commissioners do represent their neighborhood, not the city as a whole.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

Well, if the bar is that low and you think you could do a better job of representing "the will of the community" then you should step up.

Otherwise, your whining about it is a waste of time.

People don't want to do it because it isn't supposed to do anything besides liquor permits, deck approval, helping people use 311 and keeping neighbors informed of what's happening. Nobody expected this crop to go completely off the reservation because they didn't like what the job entailed and couldn't be bothered to engage the community.

Now we have current ANCs saying their neighbors are irrelevent, the needs and desires of the community are irrelevent and it's too hard to get everyone's email.

But people in this thread are acting like the ANCs devised this whole plan, which isn't true at all. They held a bunch of meetings where it was open for public comment, but it was the Bowser administration's plan, not the ANCs'.

The Mayor says she is just going along with what the community wants. She is putting it on the ANCs.

While it appears that the meetings and presentations were heavily stage managed the public facing stage management was done by the ANCs. The rest of us don't know what was happening behind the scenes. You all do. Let us know! Don't be patsies. They made you all the fall guys. The record traces back to you all. Right now the ANCs are the knes responsible. There's even one of you tacitly acknowledging that the community does not support this but he doesn't care. If that's not true then speak up.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

Well, if the bar is that low and you think you could do a better job of representing "the will of the community" then you should step up.

Otherwise, your whining about it is a waste of time.

People don't want to do it because it isn't supposed to do anything besides liquor permits, deck approval, helping people use 311 and keeping neighbors informed of what's happening. Nobody expected this crop to go completely off the reservation because they didn't like what the job entailed and couldn't be bothered to engage the community.

Now we have current ANCs saying their neighbors are irrelevent, the needs and desires of the community are irrelevent and it's too hard to get everyone's email.

But people in this thread are acting like the ANCs devised this whole plan, which isn't true at all. They held a bunch of meetings where it was open for public comment, but it was the Bowser administration's plan, not the ANCs'.

The Mayor says she is just going along with what the community wants. She is putting it on the ANCs.

While it appears that the meetings and presentations were heavily stage managed the public facing stage management was done by the ANCs. The rest of us don't know what was happening behind the scenes. You all do. Let us know! Don't be patsies. They made you all the fall guys. The record traces back to you all. Right now the ANCs are the knes responsible. There's even one of you tacitly acknowledging that the community does not support this but he doesn't care. If that's not true then speak up.

I'm the PP you're responding to, just wanted to clarify two things: One, I'm not on an ANC and have attended a grand total of two ANC meetings in my 20+ years living in the District. So I don't know if I'm meant to be the "you" you're addressing there, but if so, it's misplaced. Two, I support this bike lane proposal, and so I'm also not particularly upset with the result of the process here.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

Well, if the bar is that low and you think you could do a better job of representing "the will of the community" then you should step up.

Otherwise, your whining about it is a waste of time.

People don't want to do it because it isn't supposed to do anything besides liquor permits, deck approval, helping people use 311 and keeping neighbors informed of what's happening. Nobody expected this crop to go completely off the reservation because they didn't like what the job entailed and couldn't be bothered to engage the community.

Now we have current ANCs saying their neighbors are irrelevent, the needs and desires of the community are irrelevent and it's too hard to get everyone's email.

But people in this thread are acting like the ANCs devised this whole plan, which isn't true at all. They held a bunch of meetings where it was open for public comment, but it was the Bowser administration's plan, not the ANCs'.

The Mayor says she is just going along with what the community wants. She is putting it on the ANCs.

While it appears that the meetings and presentations were heavily stage managed the public facing stage management was done by the ANCs. The rest of us don't know what was happening behind the scenes. You all do. Let us know! Don't be patsies. They made you all the fall guys. The record traces back to you all. Right now the ANCs are the knes responsible. There's even one of you tacitly acknowledging that the community does not support this but he doesn't care. If that's not true then speak up.

What do you mean by "stage managed"?

The Conn Ave ANCs began this years ago. DDOT publicly responded to the three ANCs' calls for a study and options with five options - do nothing, Concepts A-D. (A CP group presented a separate option back to DDOT that was rejected as outside the scope of Cheh's instructions to DDOT (which in turn was based on ANC 3C, 3F, and 3/4G resolutions).

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

yes, I agree with you. it’s not direct democracy. but ANC commissioners do represent their neighborhood, not the city as a whole.

Read the oath they take. They serve the community but their oath is to the city.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

Well, if the bar is that low and you think you could do a better job of representing "the will of the community" then you should step up.

Otherwise, your whining about it is a waste of time.

People don't want to do it because it isn't supposed to do anything besides liquor permits, deck approval, helping people use 311 and keeping neighbors informed of what's happening. Nobody expected this crop to go completely off the reservation because they didn't like what the job entailed and couldn't be bothered to engage the community.

Now we have current ANCs saying their neighbors are irrelevent, the needs and desires of the community are irrelevent and it's too hard to get everyone's email.

But people in this thread are acting like the ANCs devised this whole plan, which isn't true at all. They held a bunch of meetings where it was open for public comment, but it was the Bowser administration's plan, not the ANCs'.

The Mayor says she is just going along with what the community wants. She is putting it on the ANCs.

While it appears that the meetings and presentations were heavily stage managed the public facing stage management was done by the ANCs. The rest of us don't know what was happening behind the scenes. You all do. Let us know! Don't be patsies. They made you all the fall guys. The record traces back to you all. Right now the ANCs are the knes responsible. There's even one of you tacitly acknowledging that the community does not support this but he doesn't care. If that's not true then speak up.

So the 45,000 people the 24 ANC commissioner represent who support the bike lanes stage managed the process.

Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

Well, if the bar is that low and you think you could do a better job of representing "the will of the community" then you should step up.

Otherwise, your whining about it is a waste of time.

People don't want to do it because it isn't supposed to do anything besides liquor permits, deck approval, helping people use 311 and keeping neighbors informed of what's happening. Nobody expected this crop to go completely off the reservation because they didn't like what the job entailed and couldn't be bothered to engage the community.

Now we have current ANCs saying their neighbors are irrelevent, the needs and desires of the community are irrelevent and it's too hard to get everyone's email.

But people in this thread are acting like the ANCs devised this whole plan, which isn't true at all. They held a bunch of meetings where it was open for public comment, but it was the Bowser administration's plan, not the ANCs'.

The Mayor says she is just going along with what the community wants. She is putting it on the ANCs.

While it appears that the meetings and presentations were heavily stage managed the public facing stage management was done by the ANCs. The rest of us don't know what was happening behind the scenes. You all do. Let us know! Don't be patsies. They made you all the fall guys. The record traces back to you all. Right now the ANCs are the knes responsible. There's even one of you tacitly acknowledging that the community does not support this but he doesn't care. If that's not true then speak up.

1) this process started ith the 2003 Conn Ave Corridor Study
2) Over the last three years, there were over 50 public meetings, all announced very publicly on listservs, social media, emails, newsletters etc.

Nothing was done "behind the scenes"

If you aren't engaged in the community you purport to love, done blame others.

Somehow, DDOT gathered hundreds or thousands of participants in these meetings and thousands of public comments. Overhwelmingly in favor of bike lanes. The Mayor, the ANCs and Cheh all support the bike lanes.

Maybe you don't like it, but the overwhelming majority do. If you aren't seeing that in your sphere of people around you, then you need to get out of your bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe not infinite, but you can see how a lot of people don't have cars either by finances or choice. On the other hand, there is a lot of room to grow in terms of housing.

Doesn't it make sense as housing options are expanded, to ensure people who live here can get what they need without a car?

Also, doesn't Amazon and the various food delivery services make that easier as well?

There are more cars registered with the city than there are households.

Yes, but 35 percent of households don't have any cars.

My single neighbor has at least 5.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe not infinite, but you can see how a lot of people don't have cars either by finances or choice. On the other hand, there is a lot of room to grow in terms of housing.

Doesn't it make sense as housing options are expanded, to ensure people who live here can get what they need without a car?

Also, doesn't Amazon and the various food delivery services make that easier as well?

There are more cars registered with the city than there are households.

Yes, but 35 percent of households don't have any cars.

My single neighbor has at least 5.

Ha, I think you are talking about me. Divorced woman with 4 cars , 2 short blocks from Conn Ave.

What can I say, I love classic cars ....


And for the record, I predict that the bottleneck bike lanes get removed within 2 years when the area between the Circle and the Zoo becomes an unmitigated clusterfuk.

Exactly like the idiotic project to narrow Wisconsin to a single travel lane a few years ago, in Glover Park

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe not infinite, but you can see how a lot of people don't have cars either by finances or choice. On the other hand, there is a lot of room to grow in terms of housing.

Doesn't it make sense as housing options are expanded, to ensure people who live here can get what they need without a car?

Also, doesn't Amazon and the various food delivery services make that easier as well?

There are more cars registered with the city than there are households.

Yes, but 35 percent of households don't have any cars.

My single neighbor has at least 5.

Ha, I think you are talking about me. Divorced woman with 4 cars , 2 short blocks from Conn Ave.

What can I say, I love classic cars ....


And for the record, I predict that the bottleneck bike lanes get removed within 2 years when the area between the Circle and the Zoo becomes an unmitigated clusterfuk.

Exactly like the idiotic project to narrow Wisconsin to a single travel lane a few years ago, in Glover Park

Thanks for painting a very vivid image of the kind of people who are opposing measures to improve the safety of cyclists in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe not infinite, but you can see how a lot of people don't have cars either by finances or choice. On the other hand, there is a lot of room to grow in terms of housing.

Doesn't it make sense as housing options are expanded, to ensure people who live here can get what they need without a car?

Also, doesn't Amazon and the various food delivery services make that easier as well?

There are more cars registered with the city than there are households.

Yes, but 35 percent of households don't have any cars.

My single neighbor has at least 5.

Ha, I think you are talking about me. Divorced woman with 4 cars , 2 short blocks from Conn Ave.

What can I say, I love classic cars ....


And for the record, I predict that the bottleneck bike lanes get removed within 2 years when the area between the Circle and the Zoo becomes an unmitigated clusterfuk.

Exactly like the idiotic project to narrow Wisconsin to a single travel lane a few years ago, in Glover Park

Thanks for painting a very vivid image of the kind of people who are opposing measures to improve the safety of cyclists in DC.

Cyclists would be wise to understand two realities:
1) You’re a small group of people in a much larger city.
2) The world doesn’t revolve around you.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the GGW, CPSG training, etc. I will say that Cleveland Park has suffered with some urbanist commissioners who do not listen to or respect the views of constituents, opting instead to promote their own views. In some cases, the commissioners have openly mocked their constituents. One commissioner is now desperately trying to show that he does respect constituents in a bid to get reelected, but people are on to him, as evidenced by a post last night. It's the job of an ANC commissioner to represent the neighborhood. If you don't want to do that, get another job.

Please read the ANC oath of office. It says nothing about representing constituents’ views and doing so could violate the oath of office if such views contradict the best interests of the District.

You're now arguing that an ANC is not supposed to represent their neighborhood's views? You've gone off the deep end

They swear an oath to the good of the city, not the neighborhood's views.

No, the oath is not the sum total of their duties. Their duties are spelled out in the statute and they clearly relate to the Commission area.

If you are an ANC commissioner and are unclear on this, consult your counsel. If your understanding is that the ANC has no particular duties to the ANC neighborhood area, you are very mistaken. That is a generic oath of office for DC, not a limitation or grant of authority. Of course that does not mean that the ANC cannot take into account the city as a whole - just, the whole purpose is to provide advice to city agencies on matters that impact the Commission area.

The goal of an ANC commissioner is not to simply tally up the views of their constitiuents and vote accordingly. If that were the case, then it should simply be done by computer. AND, if that were the case, then the views of the people who live in buildings would generally supersede the views of those who live in single family homes. Is that what you really want? I highly doubt it.

Go ahead and defy your constituents. Just don't expect to get reelected. People resent it when their elected representatives don't represent them.

And yet, these people get re-elected because YOUR opinion is the minority view.

Pfft. They win by default -- because no one bothers to run against them and because barely anyone votes. The race for president of my high school student council was more competitive. It's a joke.

There was a ANC "race" a few years ago where a grand total of 13 people voted.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe not infinite, but you can see how a lot of people don't have cars either by finances or choice. On the other hand, there is a lot of room to grow in terms of housing.

Doesn't it make sense as housing options are expanded, to ensure people who live here can get what they need without a car?

Also, doesn't Amazon and the various food delivery services make that easier as well?

There are more cars registered with the city than there are households.

Yes, but 35 percent of households don't have any cars.

My single neighbor has at least 5.

Ha, I think you are talking about me. Divorced woman with 4 cars , 2 short blocks from Conn Ave.

What can I say, I love classic cars ....


And for the record, I predict that the bottleneck bike lanes get removed within 2 years when the area between the Circle and the Zoo becomes an unmitigated clusterfuk.

Exactly like the idiotic project to narrow Wisconsin to a single travel lane a few years ago, in Glover Park

Thanks for painting a very vivid image of the kind of people who are opposing measures to improve the safety of cyclists in DC.

Cyclists would be wise to understand two realities:
1) You’re a small group of people in a much larger city.
2) The world doesn’t revolve around you.

Do you ever consider what a better city / world we would live in if it didn't revolve around cars? If not, you should.