"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.chicagonow.com/little-kids-big-city/2011/08/is-your-child-ready-for-first-grade-1979-edition/

Great list about what incoming 1st graders USED to be expected to do....much less academic, more more competent at life:

...

"This book was first published in 1979, so I have to say it comes across as quite dated at times. So let's take a look, shall we? The idea here is that about 10 yesses out of this list of 12 would indicate readiness for 1st grade.

1. Will your child be six years, six months or older when he begins first grade and starts receiving reading instruction?

2. Does your child have two to five permanent or second teeth?

3. Can you child tell, in such a way that his speech is understood by a school crossing guard or policeman, where he lives?

4. Can he draw and color and stay within the lines of the design being colored?

5. Can he stand on one foot with eyes closed for five to ten seconds?

6. Can he ride a small two-wheeled bicycle without helper wheels?

7. Can he tell left hand from right?

8. Can he travel alone in the neighborhood (four to eight blocks) to store, school, playground, or to a friend's home?

9. Can he be away from you all day without being upset?

10. Can he repeat an eight- to ten-word sentence, if you say it once, as "The boy ran all the way home from the store"?

11. Can he count eight to ten pennies correctly?

12. Does your child try to write or copy letters or numbers?

Heavens to Betsy. And Common Core is so massively developmentally inappropriate and light years ahead of that. Let's see...

Count 8 to 10 pennies vs. Count to 20 in Common Core. Ummm.... nope, not really a leap

Try to write or copy letters or numbers vs. print many upper and lower case letters in Common Core. Umm.... nope, not really a leap there either

The stuff in Common Core is mostly what was expected of kids growing up in the 1960s and 1970s.

Total leap. But you understand little about childhood development, which you make clearer with every post.

The difference between 10 and 20 is huge. And they want kids reading out of Kindergarten.

The requirements have been shoved down more than a year -- anyone with half a brain can see that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you people even read the article? The teacher was trying to get the kids to discuss the book--but she had so trained them with Common Core, that they were afraid to answer because they thought they would have to cite a particular passage.

Where specifically does Common Core say one specific passage needs to be cited? I can't seem to find that. Where does one obtain the "Official Bridge to Terabithia Common Core Edition" where the One and Only One Acceptable Magic Passage To Be Cited As Evidence is marked? If that's what's going on I'd say there's a problem with how that particular teacher is teaching.

Again, HEAVY EYEROLLING HERE....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.chicagonow.com/little-kids-big-city/2011/08/is-your-child-ready-for-first-grade-1979-edition/

Great list about what incoming 1st graders USED to be expected to do....much less academic, more more competent at life:

...

"This book was first published in 1979, so I have to say it comes across as quite dated at times. So let's take a look, shall we? The idea here is that about 10 yesses out of this list of 12 would indicate readiness for 1st grade.

1. Will your child be six years, six months or older when he begins first grade and starts receiving reading instruction?

2. Does your child have two to five permanent or second teeth?

3. Can you child tell, in such a way that his speech is understood by a school crossing guard or policeman, where he lives?

4. Can he draw and color and stay within the lines of the design being colored?

5. Can he stand on one foot with eyes closed for five to ten seconds?

6. Can he ride a small two-wheeled bicycle without helper wheels?

7. Can he tell left hand from right?

8. Can he travel alone in the neighborhood (four to eight blocks) to store, school, playground, or to a friend's home?

9. Can he be away from you all day without being upset?

10. Can he repeat an eight- to ten-word sentence, if you say it once, as "The boy ran all the way home from the store"?

11. Can he count eight to ten pennies correctly?

12. Does your child try to write or copy letters or numbers?

Heavens to Betsy. And Common Core is so massively developmentally inappropriate and light years ahead of that. Let's see...

Count 8 to 10 pennies vs. Count to 20 in Common Core. Ummm.... nope, not really a leap

Try to write or copy letters or numbers vs. print many upper and lower case letters in Common Core. Umm.... nope, not really a leap there either

The stuff in Common Core is mostly what was expected of kids growing up in the 1960s and 1970s.

Total leap. But you understand little about childhood development, which you make clearer with every post.

The difference between 10 and 20 is huge. And they want kids reading out of Kindergarten.

The requirements have been shoved down more than a year -- anyone with half a brain can see that.

Um, EXCUSE ME?

Shoved more than a year? So you are saying kids shouldn't be able to count to 20 until 2nd grade????

That all they accomplish throughout 1st grade is getting from counting from 8-10 to counting to 20?

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???

Oh, thank you yet again for demonstrating ALL THAT IS WRONG WITH EDUCATION THESE DAYS.

You just keep proving how fucked up the anti-CCers are, again and again, and again. You are single-handedly doing even more harm to the anti-CCers than even the pro-CCers could do.

So I thank you for that.

[Anonymous]

That's PRECISELY what the anti-CC folks have done. They have decided they are right about everything and that everyone else's experience is invalid.

LOL. Everyone else???

[Anonymous]

^ LMAO... no, wait, read closer the "childhood development expert" PP said "shoved MORE than a year" which means kids shouldn't be expected to be able to count to 20 until well INTO 2nd grade!

This is just too damned funny! So funny, one wonders if the PP isn't just trolling with all this! Because it sure can't be for real!

[Anonymous]

Where specifically does Common Core say one specific passage needs to be cited? I can't seem to find that. Where does one obtain the "Official Bridge to Terabithia Common Core Edition" where the One and Only One Acceptable Magic Passage To Be Cited As Evidence is marked? If that's what's going on I'd say there's a problem with how that particular teacher is teaching.

Again, HEAVY EYEROLLING HERE....

That is how the standardized tests are set up. Students need to be able to do that on the standardized test. They won't be able to do that if they don't learn how to do it. This is how testing drives teaching. Just one example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.chicagonow.com/little-kids-big-city/2011/08/is-your-child-ready-for-first-grade-1979-edition/

Great list about what incoming 1st graders USED to be expected to do....much less academic, more more competent at life:

...

"This book was first published in 1979, so I have to say it comes across as quite dated at times. So let's take a look, shall we? The idea here is that about 10 yesses out of this list of 12 would indicate readiness for 1st grade.

1. Will your child be six years, six months or older when he begins first grade and starts receiving reading instruction?

2. Does your child have two to five permanent or second teeth?

3. Can you child tell, in such a way that his speech is understood by a school crossing guard or policeman, where he lives?

4. Can he draw and color and stay within the lines of the design being colored?

5. Can he stand on one foot with eyes closed for five to ten seconds?

6. Can he ride a small two-wheeled bicycle without helper wheels?

7. Can he tell left hand from right?

8. Can he travel alone in the neighborhood (four to eight blocks) to store, school, playground, or to a friend's home?

9. Can he be away from you all day without being upset?

10. Can he repeat an eight- to ten-word sentence, if you say it once, as "The boy ran all the way home from the store"?

11. Can he count eight to ten pennies correctly?

12. Does your child try to write or copy letters or numbers?

Heavens to Betsy. And Common Core is so massively developmentally inappropriate and light years ahead of that. Let's see...

Count 8 to 10 pennies vs. Count to 20 in Common Core. Ummm.... nope, not really a leap

Try to write or copy letters or numbers vs. print many upper and lower case letters in Common Core. Umm.... nope, not really a leap there either

The stuff in Common Core is mostly what was expected of kids growing up in the 1960s and 1970s.

Total leap. But you understand little about childhood development, which you make clearer with every post.

The difference between 10 and 20 is huge. And they want kids reading out of Kindergarten.

The requirements have been shoved down more than a year -- anyone with half a brain can see that.

Um, EXCUSE ME?

Shoved more than a year? So you are saying kids shouldn't be able to count to 20 until 2nd grade????

That all they accomplish throughout 1st grade is getting from counting from 8-10 to counting to 20?

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???

Oh, thank you yet again for demonstrating ALL THAT IS WRONG WITH EDUCATION THESE DAYS.

You just keep proving how fucked up the anti-CCers are, again and again, and again. You are single-handedly doing even more harm to the anti-CCers than even the pro-CCers could do.

So I thank you for that.

So that book is from 1979. Those were indeed the norms for ENTERING 1st grade.

I started school in 1966. Kindergarten was a half day. We learned the alphabet, the sounds they made. We learned our numbers up to 10 and the one to one correlation. We listened to story books, played games, went to the library, had music, recess.

In first grade we started Dick and Jane books, started working with adding and subtracting numbers up to 10.

Second grade we started adding and subtracting two digit numbers.

So yes, Common Core has absolutely shoved everything down a year.

It's a change for the worse, and that is borne out every day across the country. I was just talking to a mom today who told me her child now hates school because of the way Common Core math is taught.

Those are the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ LMAO... no, wait, read closer the "childhood development expert" PP said "shoved MORE than a year" which means kids shouldn't be expected to be able to count to 20 until well INTO 2nd grade!

This is just too damned funny! So funny, one wonders if the PP isn't just trolling with all this! Because it sure can't be for real!

You can't read very well -- enough now. So sad.

Those were the standards for ENTERING 1st grade.

[Anonymous]

Do you know what's truly absurd about all of this?

We have over half of students in America getting free or reduced lunch. We have an enormous number of students living under the poverty line.

And what are we talking about and spending money on?

Standards and standardized testing.

We've got a huge problem and it's not standards and standardized testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LMAO... no, wait, read closer the "childhood development expert" PP said "shoved MORE than a year" which means kids shouldn't be expected to be able to count to 20 until well INTO 2nd grade!

This is just too damned funny! So funny, one wonders if the PP isn't just trolling with all this! Because it sure can't be for real!

You can't read very well -- enough now. So sad.

Those were the standards for ENTERING 1st grade.

Oh, I read just fine. And I did the math too. Did you?

The PP said it was "shoving things out more than a year" to expect kids to be able to count to 20.

What is "more than a year" after "ENTERING 1st grade?" Well, doing the math, it means entering 2nd grade is exactly one year past entering 1st grade. "More than one year" means well into 2nd grade.

So again, the PP said that kids shouldn't be expected to be able to count to 20 until well into 2nd grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Do you know what's truly absurd about all of this?

We have over half of students in America getting free or reduced lunch. We have an enormous number of students living under the poverty line.

And what are we talking about and spending money on?

Standards and standardized testing.

We've got a huge problem and it's not standards and standardized testing.

Entirely different topic and issue.

But as usual, when the argument starts to go south for the anti-CCers, they change the subject.

As though the money spent on standardized testing could solve the poverty issue anyhow. There was only around $6k in federal dollars spent per school on standardized testing. That isn't exactly going to feed much of anyone, much less solve the poverty issue.

And as always, there's the difference between giving a man a fish versus teaching a man to fish. Seems you'd prefer we just hand out fish rather than teaching anyone to fish.

[Anonymous]

BULLSHIT ALERT:

"Their kid hates school now because of the way Common Core math is taught" - as though that kid actually has any basis for comparison to how math was taught before Common Core. How does he know how math would have been taught before Common Core? HE WOULDN'T. HE NEVER HAD IT.

Please, spare us the "those are facts" nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BULLSHIT ALERT:

"Their kid hates school now because of the way Common Core math is taught" - as though that kid actually has any basis for comparison to how math was taught before Common Core. How does he know how math would have been taught before Common Core? HE WOULDN'T. HE NEVER HAD IT.

Please, spare us the "those are facts" nonsense.

This absolutely happened to my middle-schooler. They DO know the difference because one year they had the older curriculum and the next year a new "Common Core" aligned curriculum was brought in.

You are full of shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LMAO... no, wait, read closer the "childhood development expert" PP said "shoved MORE than a year" which means kids shouldn't be expected to be able to count to 20 until well INTO 2nd grade!

This is just too damned funny! So funny, one wonders if the PP isn't just trolling with all this! Because it sure can't be for real!

You can't read very well -- enough now. So sad.

Those were the standards for ENTERING 1st grade.

Oh, I read just fine. And I did the math too. Did you?

The PP said it was "shoving things out more than a year" to expect kids to be able to count to 20.

What is "more than a year" after "ENTERING 1st grade?" Well, doing the math, it means entering 2nd grade is exactly one year past entering 1st grade. "More than one year" means well into 2nd grade.

So again, the PP said that kids shouldn't be expected to be able to count to 20 until well into 2nd grade.

Academics are definitely shoved down a year with Common Core. In 1st grade in the 60s, we were adding and subtracting 10 and below. But we were counting much higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.chicagonow.com/little-kids-big-city/2011/08/is-your-child-ready-for-first-grade-1979-edition/

Great list about what incoming 1st graders USED to be expected to do....much less academic, more more competent at life:

...

"This book was first published in 1979, so I have to say it comes across as quite dated at times. So let's take a look, shall we? The idea here is that about 10 yesses out of this list of 12 would indicate readiness for 1st grade.

1. Will your child be six years, six months or older when he begins first grade and starts receiving reading instruction?

2. Does your child have two to five permanent or second teeth?

3. Can you child tell, in such a way that his speech is understood by a school crossing guard or policeman, where he lives?

4. Can he draw and color and stay within the lines of the design being colored?

5. Can he stand on one foot with eyes closed for five to ten seconds?

6. Can he ride a small two-wheeled bicycle without helper wheels?

7. Can he tell left hand from right?

8. Can he travel alone in the neighborhood (four to eight blocks) to store, school, playground, or to a friend's home?

9. Can he be away from you all day without being upset?

10. Can he repeat an eight- to ten-word sentence, if you say it once, as "The boy ran all the way home from the store"?

11. Can he count eight to ten pennies correctly?

12. Does your child try to write or copy letters or numbers?

Heavens to Betsy. And Common Core is so massively developmentally inappropriate and light years ahead of that. Let's see...

Count 8 to 10 pennies vs. Count to 20 in Common Core. Ummm.... nope, not really a leap

Try to write or copy letters or numbers vs. print many upper and lower case letters in Common Core. Umm.... nope, not really a leap there either

The stuff in Common Core is mostly what was expected of kids growing up in the 1960s and 1970s.

Total leap. But you understand little about childhood development, which you make clearer with every post.

The difference between 10 and 20 is huge. And they want kids reading out of Kindergarten.

The requirements have been shoved down more than a year -- anyone with half a brain can see that.

Um, EXCUSE ME?

Shoved more than a year? So you are saying kids shouldn't be able to count to 20 until 2nd grade????

That all they accomplish throughout 1st grade is getting from counting from 8-10 to counting to 20?

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???

Oh, thank you yet again for demonstrating ALL THAT IS WRONG WITH EDUCATION THESE DAYS.

You just keep proving how fucked up the anti-CCers are, again and again, and again. You are single-handedly doing even more harm to the anti-CCers than even the pro-CCers could do.

So I thank you for that.

So that book is from 1979. Those were indeed the norms for ENTERING 1st grade.

I started school in 1966. Kindergarten was a half day. We learned the alphabet, the sounds they made. We learned our numbers up to 10 and the one to one correlation. We listened to story books, played games, went to the library, had music, recess.

In first grade we started Dick and Jane books, started working with adding and subtracting numbers up to 10.

Second grade we started adding and subtracting two digit numbers.

So yes, Common Core has absolutely shoved everything down a year.

It's a change for the worse, and that is borne out every day across the country. I was just talking to a mom today who told me her child now hates school because of the way Common Core math is taught.

Those are the facts.

If you actually read the standards, there's not a year difference.