FCPS Parents and AAP process: Talk to the AART

[Anonymous]

Parents, it is the crazy tim of year where many people are rushing to get the AAP process done. I am seeing a lot of people saying that people asking if there kids have a chance, based on grades and scores.

That is not the critical information, based on watching the process for several years. The process is the test scores and the schools evaluation of potential giftedness, based on the GBRS. While you can not see the GBRS now (they have not been generated), you can talk to the AART or second grade teacher. They should be familiar with your child.

When you post the scores, and only the scores, I can tell you what I think based on my algorithm, but that requires the GBRS.

Here is the algorithm: ( ( NNAT+CogAT Composite)/2 + GBRS*10)/2=AAP score
alternatively, AAP score is WISC FSIQ

if the AAP score is over 135, child seems safe
Is AAP score is below 120, be happy with gen ed.

As an example: DD had tests of 120. GBRS of 15; Based on the algorithm, AAP score was 135, and she is in.

Other kids I have read about: Tests of 140, GBRS of 7. The AAP score would be: 105, and he was not in.


From what I can tell (based on data posted here), the cutoff for the AAP score has been firm between 125 and 128. But, I only have what people post, and this is based on the past three years of data.

[Anonymous]

Agree - BUT - there are circumstances where combining NNAT and CogAT scores does not make sense (child was ill on day of test, was anxious, etc.) where additional testing (such as WISC) mirrors the higher test results.

Best advice is in the thread topic -- consult your school's AART for advice, as they are your child's best advocate at school.

[Anonymous]

According to your formula, my dd with an "AAP score" of 144.5 could get in with a GBRS as low as 10. Historically, high test scores when paired with a GBRS lower than 12 do not get in unless trumped by a WISC. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Anonymous]

I have seen high test scores with GBRS of 11 get in -- that would require test scores of 150 to offset the GBRS, based on a 130 baseline.

For your case: 144 + 10 (hypothetical)*10=244
244/2=122, which is below the cutoff. 11 would be near the cutoff, 12 would be safe.

[Anonymous]

Talk to your AART! Don't get your advice from this forum, or from this person promoting a formula that may or may not have any foundation in reality. Talk to your AART!

[Anonymous]

really?
we've started with the formula again?

This woman loves statistics and has way too much free time.
There is no way to predict who will get in and who won't, and I will never understand why a subjective rating can overrule 99th percentile scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Talk to your AART! Don't get your advice from this forum, or from this person promoting a formula that may or may not have any foundation in reality. Talk to your AART!

+1

[Anonymous]

As the creator of the formula, I have to agree, talk to the AART! I will offer my opinion, but it is mostly an experiment. I think I figured out the process.


As for how a "subjective" rating can overrule 99% scores, it has factually. For CogAT and NNAT. My guess is the county assumes test prep in that case (when it is out of line with school expectations). They seem to trust 100% the WISC.

[Anonymous]

I should add one comment, my "data" is one data point that I have validated, and the rest are postings on this anonymous forum. So perhaps the 99% rejected because of a 9 GBRS is false.