FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

[Anonymous]

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

And, this is an example of "do gooders" who think they know better than the people living the experience. A true example of elitism.

It's nice to have a sparkling new building, but the community is far more important. I've taught in both. The building is nice, but if the parents don't get there, it does not work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question for the BRAC: On the slides posted for yesterday's meeting it shows how capacity changes if transfers out return to their zoned school. Specifically, Lewis goes to 97%. Why didn't they show the reduced capacity for schools impacted by transfers in (e.g. WSHS)? Presumably returning transfers fixes a lot of the capacity problems at the HS level.

If you looked at transfer numbers, you’d see fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Lewis transfers aren’t highly concentrated like Herndon to South Lakes or Mount Vernon to Hayfield. Lake Braddock, South County, and Edison take the most Lewis students, but that’s less than half of the overall transfers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the BRAC: On the slides posted for yesterday's meeting it shows how capacity changes if transfers out return to their zoned school. Specifically, Lewis goes to 97%. Why didn't they show the reduced capacity for schools impacted by transfers in (e.g. WSHS)? Presumably returning transfers fixes a lot of the capacity problems at the HS level.

If you looked at transfer numbers, you’d see fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Lewis transfers aren’t highly concentrated like Herndon to South Lakes or Mount Vernon to Hayfield. Lake Braddock, South County, and Edison take the most Lewis students, but that’s less than half of the overall transfers.

That would have been informative as well, since it would suggest a change in the base boundaries is the only practical way to reduce WSHS’s enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Lewis sends less than 10 to WSHS. 3 schools get the bulk of the transfers plus 9 get <10 [includes even Langley - Russian?]. Includes IB: Robinson, South Lakes, Annandale. Big transfer in site is IB Edison- hello FCPS sticking in the tech!

Lewis 251 out 23 in net -228. Adjust for TJ out 212 net - 189

AP South County 11
AP Lake Braddock 32
IB=tech? Edison 54 97

Moving Edison tech to Lewis would solve this issue?

[Anonymous]

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

And, this is an example of "do gooders" who think they know better than the people living the experience. A true example of elitism.

It's nice to have a sparkling new building, but the community is far more important. I've taught in both. The building is nice, but if the parents don't get there, it does not work.

It’s been burried in the noise, but the school board has specifically called out examples where low income housing was zoned to more affluent elementary schools by busing them past multiple closer schools. They acknowledged this has had bad outcomes on attendance because if kids miss the bus, they’re missing school. These were the attendance islands they emphasized as needing to be fixed.

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

And, this is an example of "do gooders" who think they know better than the people living the experience. A true example of elitism.

It's nice to have a sparkling new building, but the community is far more important. I've taught in both. The building is nice, but if the parents don't get there, it does not work.

It’s been burried in the noise, but the school board has specifically called out examples where low income housing was zoned to more affluent elementary schools by busing them past multiple closer schools. They acknowledged this has had bad outcomes on attendance because if kids miss the bus, they’re missing school. These were the attendance islands they emphasized as needing to be fixed.

The one that gets the most attention is the area off Route 1 bused to Fort Hunt ES. Are there other ES where this happens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AAP falls under special education and FCPS is required to make it available. AAP teachers are specifically trained to teach AAP material, work with AAP kids, and have stricter continuing education requirements. For this they get a bit of a bump in salary too. Getting rid of AAP center and moving kids back to their base school may be too expensive and not feasible. Elementary school will be required to have atleast one AAP classroom because again it falls under special education. To accomplish this they will need to hire, train, and pay more teachers which will be expensive. Some schools may not have enough AAP eligible kids to build a class so they'll have to bring in other kids which will slow down the teachers ability to move at a faster pace and piss off parents who will complain the program is diluted. Removing Middle School AAP centers will be a whole different headache since everything is subject based.

It's my understanding that all of the middle schools have LLIV. There's no need for AAP Centers in middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

And, this is an example of "do gooders" who think they know better than the people living the experience. A true example of elitism.

It's nice to have a sparkling new building, but the community is far more important. I've taught in both. The building is nice, but if the parents don't get there, it does not work.

It’s been burried in the noise, but the school board has specifically called out examples where low income housing was zoned to more affluent elementary schools by busing them past multiple closer schools. They acknowledged this has had bad outcomes on attendance because if kids miss the bus, they’re missing school. These were the attendance islands they emphasized as needing to be fixed.

The one that gets the most attention is the area off Route 1 bused to Fort Hunt ES. Are there other ES where this happens?

Hagel Cir to Halley instead of Lorton Station. The island near the Fort Hunt one that goes to Groverton. The Willow Springs island that should go to Eagle View.

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Anonymous wrote:So the two scenarios confirmed the ridiculously obvious fact that moving 6th to middle schools not designed for three grades would lead to somewhere between serious and massive overcrowding and eliminating transfers would cause utilization to go up at the underperforming schools from which students are fleeing?

Honestly, I’m glad it was so publicly presented, then analyzed, then reported. The stats on 6th to middle school are actually insane to even be considered a possibly.

The rest of the U.S. does 6-8th for middle school. There are benefits to it, but it may not work in our area. The test scenario shows that. Give it up.
It takes like third grade math to see if you increase enrollment from two grades to three grades then utilization will increase by 50%, and schools near 100% now would go to 150%. Didn’t need a study for that.

It never was a possibility. 6-8th was just a test scenario. Not a plan. How many times must this be repeated?

Thanks pal. Why was your girl Reid pushing for it relentlessly at every meeting if it was never a possibility? Just spouting nonsense?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Slides from the most recent BRAC meeting: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/3-26-2025SuperintendentBoundaryReviewAdvisoryCommitteePresentation.pdf

At this rate they’re never meeting their June deadline.

At least they are talking about things that have been discussed on this board over the years. The 6th grade to MS thing seems like a non-starter.

Their summary slide is still pretty delusional. They claim some middle schools would only be “moderately” overcrowded when only one middle school that isn’t already a 6-8 middle school would be below 120%. Then they say it will relieve elementary school crowding when only one elementary school is listed as being over 125% capacity.

The presentation already shows a startling lack of knowledge about FCPS. Like Falls Church capacity not reflecting the expansion.

They are looking at information as of now, not when the expansion is done. They need a time cutoff to look at test scenarios.

LOL. It just underscores the scenarios are primarily for show and otherwise useless.

You will never be happy. Just admit that and move on

When you spend so much time defending these inane pony shows, you really do deserve the “School Board shill” label.

If you think everyone is either a "school board shill" or a gatehouse employee, then it is your problem to work through. The rest of us are just trying to discuss without some weirdo making silly accusations all the time.
It sounds like he was right: you will NEVER be happy. Accept and move on.

[Anonymous]

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

And, this is an example of "do gooders" who think they know better than the people living the experience. A true example of elitism.

It's nice to have a sparkling new building, but the community is far more important. I've taught in both. The building is nice, but if the parents don't get there, it does not work.

It’s been burried in the noise, but the school board has specifically called out examples where low income housing was zoned to more affluent elementary schools by busing them past multiple closer schools. They acknowledged this has had bad outcomes on attendance because if kids miss the bus, they’re missing school. These were the attendance islands they emphasized as needing to be fixed.

The one that gets the most attention is the area off Route 1 bused to Fort Hunt ES. Are there other ES where this happens?

The Hagel Circle neighborhood in Lorton is closer to both Lorton Station and Gunston than to Halley, which is where they go. This is likely an artifact of when South County MS/HS’s boundaries were carved out of mostly Hayfield’s when SC was opened. The troubled neighborhoods were split up - Halley and SC got Hagel Cir., Lorton Station and Hayfield kept the low income apartments by Lorton Station elementary as well as Woods of Fairfax apartments. Lorton Station ES got to be an AAP center for BOTH pyramids in order to keep them afloat.

Unfortunately at this point if you moved Hagel Cir out of Halley to either Lorton Station or Gunston, you leave Halley quite under enrolled and then probably need to adjust boundaries within the South County pyramid elementaries to compensate. Unfortunately again, that area of the county is more spread out, so you might give some kids an even longer bus commute than the Hagel kids have to Halley right now!

[Anonymous]

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

And, this is an example of "do gooders" who think they know better than the people living the experience. A true example of elitism.

It's nice to have a sparkling new building, but the community is far more important. I've taught in both. The building is nice, but if the parents don't get there, it does not work.

It’s been burried in the noise, but the school board has specifically called out examples where low income housing was zoned to more affluent elementary schools by busing them past multiple closer schools. They acknowledged this has had bad outcomes on attendance because if kids miss the bus, they’re missing school. These were the attendance islands they emphasized as needing to be fixed.

The one that gets the most attention is the area off Route 1 bused to Fort Hunt ES. Are there other ES where this happens?

The Hagel Circle neighborhood in Lorton is closer to both Lorton Station and Gunston than to Halley, which is where they go. This is likely an artifact of when South County MS/HS’s boundaries were carved out of mostly Hayfield’s when SC was opened. The troubled neighborhoods were split up - Halley and SC got Hagel Cir., Lorton Station and Hayfield kept the low income apartments by Lorton Station elementary as well as Woods of Fairfax apartments. Lorton Station ES got to be an AAP center for BOTH pyramids in order to keep them afloat.

Unfortunately at this point if you moved Hagel Cir out of Halley to either Lorton Station or Gunston, you leave Halley quite under enrolled and then probably need to adjust boundaries within the South County pyramid elementaries to compensate. Unfortunately again, that area of the county is more spread out, so you might give some kids an even longer bus commute than the Hagel kids have to Halley right now!

Lorton Station and Gunston both have capacity. The challenge is that Lorton Station is already a Title I school and Gunston is teetering on the edge of becoming one.

[Anonymous]

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Let's start putting affordable multi family housing in SFH neighborhoods. That's the answer I say. And enough with the silly arguments about oh the transportation, they won't be able to get to school if they miss their buses, or to work if there is no public transportation. Many of these people journeyed thousands of miles on foot, with babies on their backs, through dense and dangerous jungles, or swam through rivers full of excrement to get to a better life. They are resourceful and strong and they will no doubt figure it out.

Written by someone who has never taught kids with great poverty. A person who has no idea what life is like for these people. Please tell me why truancy is already a great problem with this population, and, yet, magically they are going to be resourceful enough to get their kids to a public bus if they miss the school bus.

Tell me how, when it is already difficult to get parents in poverty into the schools, you are magically going to get them to visit the school that is extra miles away.

I have been there and done that as a teacher. You have no clue.

Graham Road ES is an interesting example. It used to be an older building on a small lot adjacent to a bunch of low-income apartments. It was a community hub and, for a while, the academic performance of kids there was exceptional.

Then the school came up for renovation and they decided to build a new school at a different location that was actually outside the school’s catchment area. Some parents said they’d prefer if the existing location was renovated but their SB member wanted to give them a new school instead.

So now the kids get bused to a newer school a few miles away and the academic performance is lower than it was before.

I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder. This was an egregious decision by the School Board. They broke up a community that was improving and put it in a "better" environment. As I recall, the community begged for them to leave it there.

And, this is an example of "do gooders" who think they know better than the people living the experience. A true example of elitism.

It's nice to have a sparkling new building, but the community is far more important. I've taught in both. The building is nice, but if the parents don't get there, it does not work.

It’s been burried in the noise, but the school board has specifically called out examples where low income housing was zoned to more affluent elementary schools by busing them past multiple closer schools. They acknowledged this has had bad outcomes on attendance because if kids miss the bus, they’re missing school. These were the attendance islands they emphasized as needing to be fixed.

The one that gets the most attention is the area off Route 1 bused to Fort Hunt ES. Are there other ES where this happens?

The Hagel Circle neighborhood in Lorton is closer to both Lorton Station and Gunston than to Halley, which is where they go. This is likely an artifact of when South County MS/HS’s boundaries were carved out of mostly Hayfield’s when SC was opened. The troubled neighborhoods were split up - Halley and SC got Hagel Cir., Lorton Station and Hayfield kept the low income apartments by Lorton Station elementary as well as Woods of Fairfax apartments. Lorton Station ES got to be an AAP center for BOTH pyramids in order to keep them afloat.

Unfortunately at this point if you moved Hagel Cir out of Halley to either Lorton Station or Gunston, you leave Halley quite under enrolled and then probably need to adjust boundaries within the South County pyramid elementaries to compensate. Unfortunately again, that area of the county is more spread out, so you might give some kids an even longer bus commute than the Hagel kids have to Halley right now!

Lorton Station and Gunston both have capacity. The challenge is that Lorton Station is already a Title I school and Gunston is teetering on the edge of becoming one.

They’d probably want to send them to Gunston - that way they could stay at South County since Gunston is already a split feeder. That’s one of the split feeders I don’t know if they can fix because it covers such a large geographic area.

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Anonymous wrote:Slides from the most recent BRAC meeting: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/3-26-2025SuperintendentBoundaryReviewAdvisoryCommitteePresentation.pdf

At this rate they’re never meeting their June deadline.

At least they are talking about things that have been discussed on this board over the years. The 6th grade to MS thing seems like a non-starter.

Their summary slide is still pretty delusional. They claim some middle schools would only be “moderately” overcrowded when only one middle school that isn’t already a 6-8 middle school would be below 120%. Then they say it will relieve elementary school crowding when only one elementary school is listed as being over 125% capacity.

The presentation already shows a startling lack of knowledge about FCPS. Like Falls Church capacity not reflecting the expansion.

They are looking at information as of now, not when the expansion is done. They need a time cutoff to look at test scenarios.

LOL. It just underscores the scenarios are primarily for show and otherwise useless.

You will never be happy. Just admit that and move on

When you spend so much time defending these inane pony shows, you really do deserve the “School Board shill” label.

If you think everyone is either a "school board shill" or a gatehouse employee, then it is your problem to work through. The rest of us are just trying to discuss without some weirdo making silly accusations all the time.
It sounds like he was right: you will NEVER be happy. Accept and move on.

I dunno. Sounds like you are a BRAC member who feels flattered that you're among the first to see a presentation that illustrates one scenario that isn't feasible at all and another one that's still half-baked.

Meanwhile most of us are wondering why they are doing this and when they'll actually engage on the real issues.