DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

Who cares. DCU sucks. Aren’t they disbanding the U14 for the 2025-2026 season? Already no U13 and now no U14. Yikes. Plus your kid has to be subjected to DCU academics…hard pass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

Who cares. DCU sucks. Aren’t they disbanding the U14 for the 2025-2026 season? Already no U13 and now no U14. Yikes. Plus your kid has to be subjected to DCU academics…hard pass.

Yes to all of those questions and agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

Is there a list that shows all the players developed (5 or more years) at MLS academies that are today players on First Division clubs in Europe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

Is there a list that shows all the players developed (5 or more years) at MLS academies that are today players on First Division clubs in Europe?

Verifiable facts lady, do your own research if you'd like to make a point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

You copy and paste your own comments and respond to them every day multiple times a day

What are you trying to achieve this time that the first hundred times didn't achieve?
You're obviously not feeling better about yourself or your kid's situation

You're not going to stop anyone who's kid is good enough from going to the DC Academy

What's your end goal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

You copy and paste your own comments and respond to them every day multiple times a day

What are you trying to achieve this time that the first hundred times didn't achieve?
You're obviously not feeling better about yourself or your kid's situation

You're not going to stop anyone who's kid is good enough from going to the DC Academy

What's your end goal?

You're so funny with your attack the messenger strategy. A simple way to actually engage in the conversation would be to point out the things DC United Academy does well. If you're familiar with the program (I don't actually think you are), surely there are positives to point out. Prior posters have pointed to, at the very least, the opportunity to practice with and compete against the best players in the region. There's that. What else?

[Anonymous]

DCU lost to Philly Union across the board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

Is there a list that shows all the players developed (5 or more years) at MLS academies that are today players on First Division clubs in Europe?

Verifiable facts lady, do your own research if you'd like to make a point.

Call whoever whatever you want

Is there data showing multiple MLS academies have been and are developing players from U-littles and are selling them to Division 1 level clubs in Europe for healthy revenue?

If you're calling out dcu for not doing so, I'm assuming you can show how everyone else is, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCU lost to Philly Union across the board.

When DC team beat Philly few weeks ago in DC, the haters say the W or L doesn't matter.
Philly win, it means everything 😂🤣🤣

Pathetic hypocrites lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

You copy and paste your own comments and respond to them every day multiple times a day

What are you trying to achieve this time that the first hundred times didn't achieve?
You're obviously not feeling better about yourself or your kid's situation

You're not going to stop anyone who's kid is good enough from going to the DC Academy

What's your end goal?

You're so funny with your attack the messenger strategy. A simple way to actually engage in the conversation would be to point out the things DC United Academy does well. If you're familiar with the program (I don't actually think you are), surely there are positives to point out. Prior posters have pointed to, at the very least, the opportunity to practice with and compete against the best players in the region. There's that. What else?

No one with a kid in the DMV good enough for MLS Club Academy selection gives a rats behind what's said in dcum or any other mommy blog.
They're going to DC Academy if offered unless they have personal family reasons.

You using the platform to spit your toxic hate and trying to put down people's kids because of your own insecurities and failures isn't changing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

Is there a list that shows all the players developed (5 or more years) at MLS academies that are today players on First Division clubs in Europe?

Verifiable facts lady, do your own research if you'd like to make a point.

Call whoever whatever you want

Is there data showing multiple MLS academies have been and are developing players from U-littles and are selling them to Division 1 level clubs in Europe for healthy revenue?

If you're calling out dcu for not doing so, I'm assuming you can show how everyone else is, no?

Lots of people have provided plenty of facts to show DCU Academy is lagging behind. The thread is replete with them. It's on you to show something positive. Otherwise you're conceding the argument. I'm sorry you're so frustrated. if you feel the need to stick up for the academy, you should do so with facts. As it stands, you're just inspiring people to drag it more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

You copy and paste your own comments and respond to them every day multiple times a day

What are you trying to achieve this time that the first hundred times didn't achieve?
You're obviously not feeling better about yourself or your kid's situation

You're not going to stop anyone who's kid is good enough from going to the DC Academy

What's your end goal?

You're so funny with your attack the messenger strategy. A simple way to actually engage in the conversation would be to point out the things DC United Academy does well. If you're familiar with the program (I don't actually think you are), surely there are positives to point out. Prior posters have pointed to, at the very least, the opportunity to practice with and compete against the best players in the region. There's that. What else?

No one with a kid in the DMV good enough for MLS Club Academy selection gives a rats behind what's said in dcum or any other mommy blog.
They're going to DC Academy if offered unless they have personal family reasons.

You using the platform to spit your toxic hate and trying to put down people's kids because of your own insecurities and failures isn't changing that.

why are you so mad? I'm not a super frequent poster here, I mostly post because I find your positions so unsupported and arguments weak. Actually, since all you do is attack people and post inane questions asking for esoteric information, you don't really have an argument. No one is putting down anyone's kids. I think we all agree it would be better for DC United to invest more in the program and the players. They deserve that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

You copy and paste your own comments and respond to them every day multiple times a day

What are you trying to achieve this time that the first hundred times didn't achieve?
You're obviously not feeling better about yourself or your kid's situation

You're not going to stop anyone who's kid is good enough from going to the DC Academy

What's your end goal?

You're so funny with your attack the messenger strategy. A simple way to actually engage in the conversation would be to point out the things DC United Academy does well. If you're familiar with the program (I don't actually think you are), surely there are positives to point out. Prior posters have pointed to, at the very least, the opportunity to practice with and compete against the best players in the region. There's that. What else?

No one with a kid in the DMV good enough for MLS Club Academy selection gives a rats behind what's said in dcum or any other mommy blog.
They're going to DC Academy if offered unless they have personal family reasons.

You using the platform to spit your toxic hate and trying to put down people's kids because of your own insecurities and failures isn't changing that.

why are you so mad? I'm not a super frequent poster here, I mostly post because I find your positions so unsupported and arguments weak. Actually, since all you do is attack people and post inane questions asking for esoteric information, you don't really have an argument. No one is putting down anyone's kids. I think we all agree it would be better for DC United to invest more in the program and the players. They deserve that.

Aren't you the pos that just wrote all that negative crap about the young player from dcu now at Bournemouth?

You make the mistake thinking that only one person is responding to call out your crap

I haven't given any positions or arguments that need support, other than to point out the hypocrisy and biased emotions of your toxic narrative.
You are the one making the accusations and leveling charges without proof other than mainly circumstantial evidence, lies and your biased opinions

If you have a kid at dcu, then talk to them about what they're not doing for your kid.
If you don't have a kid at dcu, then go have a coke and a smile and focus on what actually involves you and your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

Is there a list that shows all the players developed (5 or more years) at MLS academies that are today players on First Division clubs in Europe?

Verifiable facts lady, do your own research if you'd like to make a point.

Call whoever whatever you want

Is there data showing multiple MLS academies have been and are developing players from U-littles and are selling them to Division 1 level clubs in Europe for healthy revenue?

If you're calling out dcu for not doing so, I'm assuming you can show how everyone else is, no?

Lots of people have provided plenty of facts to show DCU Academy is lagging behind. The thread is replete with them. It's on you to show something positive. Otherwise you're conceding the argument. I'm sorry you're so frustrated. if you feel the need to stick up for the academy, you should do so with facts. As it stands, you're just inspiring people to drag it more.

Yes, just say lots of facts exist.
That makes it true lol

Not actually an argument when one side is throwing manure and the other is just calling it BS

Now go back to trolling all things dcua 24/7

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:boys almost beat phila

Yes almost....

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJE73_zxCFg/?img_index=4&igsh=MWRlOW8zZ2V6MG1hZw==

One team kept it close. All others pretty much got dominated. DCU is just a local club with the MLS badge. Nothing more. It is widely known that DCU is not a strong developer of talent and inept as an organization.

And look at what is happening to the two players that are in England now from DCU. One is coming back from his loan because Nottingham Forest declined the option to sign him and the other at Bournemouth is off to a very shaky start with reports coming out of England saying that he is very raw (translation = great physical potential but not so good technically and decisionmaking). Don't see any IG status posts about that now do you?? Remember these are players that were on DCUs first team before they left and they aren't really cutting it with the ACADEMY teams in England (both are playing with the u21s). They are both young players and maybe they will get other opportunities. But, it's not a good look for DCU and whether they can prepare a player for that level. These two represent the pinnacle of the pathway at DCU. Loans to two premier league clubs. One is already being sent back and the other seems to be on the same trajectory but the jury is still out/he can still make good of his time at Bournemouth.

The bottom line is this...DCU is not a strong enough organization to consistently produce really top level footballers for Europe. Maybe for the level in the US DCU is ok. But even for the US is questionable. If you have pro ambition as a player, DCU cannot be a long term path for you. Maybe a stepping stone for a player, but if you're in the organization for a while your stock is inevitably and gradually diminishing.

You copy and paste your own comments and respond to them every day multiple times a day

What are you trying to achieve this time that the first hundred times didn't achieve?
You're obviously not feeling better about yourself or your kid's situation

You're not going to stop anyone who's kid is good enough from going to the DC Academy

What's your end goal?

But it's actually.mutliple people posting. You're wrong.