Georgetown Prep vs. Sidwell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you 14:23. Obviously, 11:09 doesn't understand that my words in parentheses are just a reference to a previous post - not to mention the basis of my post about good values and being against bigotry. No one would pay $10,000 a year for tuition if it was just about the cost. It's about the education, the small class sizes, the extras (art, music, PE, foreign language, etc), the values, the community, safe environment, - oh, and yes, it is a great value at 75% less than other privates. That is a nice bonus, but not the end all be all. Obviously, if we didn't like the school we wouldn't send our children and waste $10,000. So sorry to everyone else on this board that I had to go into such a long explanation for the PP - but I guess some people just need more time.

Not a single mention of the school's greatest differentiator --- the very reason for its existence --- the Catholic faith?

I guess this is just another family hitch-hiking along on Catholic education.

[Anonymous]

News flash people, not everyone goes to Catholic school solely for the religion. Lots of people go for reasons the PP mentioned - it's a good school, teaches good values, kids get a good education, nice community, in the neighborhood, etc. The fact that it is catholic is one (albeit large) aspect of the school, but it does not completely define the entire school. Thankfully schools are well-rounded and people choose to attend them for various reasons. Even some non-catholics attend catholic schools (oh, the horror). This may come as a shocker to you, but Catholic school kids don't have religion all day (or even every day), they take other classes too, and they don't carry bibles everywhere they go either. With your ignorant theory, all Sidwell kids must all be Quakers, and Cathedral/STA kids must all be Episcopal (light Catholics) - if not then they must be "hitch-hiking along". Give me a break!

[Anonymous]

F THE POOR!

[Anonymous]

I have friends with boys at STA who study the Bible and have it as a textbook, my Catholic educated children haven't done that yet. They may discuss biblical stories and the meaning of things in religion class, but they don't read the Bible for homework and carry it around in their backpacks. My children also go to mass at school a similar amount of times, if not less than Cathedral kids. The anti-Catholics who look down on Catholic schools and the people who attend them need to get over themselves and have a bit of a reality check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:News flash people, not everyone goes to Catholic school solely for the religion. Lots of people go for reasons the PP mentioned - it's a good school, teaches good values, kids get a good education, nice community, in the neighborhood, etc. The fact that it is catholic is one (albeit large) aspect of the school, but it does not completely define the entire school. Thankfully schools are well-rounded and people choose to attend them for various reasons. Even some non-catholics attend catholic schools (oh, the horror). This may come as a shocker to you, but Catholic school kids don't have religion all day (or even every day), they take other classes too, and they don't carry bibles everywhere they go either. With your ignorant theory, all Sidwell kids must all be Quakers, and Cathedral/STA kids must all be Episcopal (light Catholics) - if not then they must be "hitch-hiking along". Give me a break!

The Catholic religion is not just one aspect of Catholic schools. It is THE central reason they were founded and why they exist. Sine qua non.

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

Sidwell and Cathedral/STA are not comparable situations.

And please, the idea that the Episcopal religion is "Catholic Light" is offensive to most Catholics. There aren't variants of the Catholic religion. There is just one and its the only Church we believe in. Just listen to the Nicene Creed at Mass or Google it.

[Anonymous]

The poster insisting on Catholic schools for Catholic students puzzles me. There is a long tradition of Catholic schools educating mostly non-Catholics here in DC, where many non-Catholic blacks attended Catholic schools.

I have lived in the Middle East and it is quite common for Muslim families to send their children to single sex Catholic or Orthodox schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash people, not everyone goes to Catholic school solely for the religion. Lots of people go for reasons the PP mentioned - it's a good school, teaches good values, kids get a good education, nice community, in the neighborhood, etc. The fact that it is catholic is one (albeit large) aspect of the school, but it does not completely define the entire school. Thankfully schools are well-rounded and people choose to attend them for various reasons. Even some non-catholics attend catholic schools (oh, the horror). This may come as a shocker to you, but Catholic school kids don't have religion all day (or even every day), they take other classes too, and they don't carry bibles everywhere they go either. With your ignorant theory, all Sidwell kids must all be Quakers, and Cathedral/STA kids must all be Episcopal (light Catholics) - if not then they must be "hitch-hiking along". Give me a break!

The Catholic religion is not just one aspect of Catholic schools. It is THE central reason they were founded and why they exist. Sine qua non.

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

Sidwell and Cathedral/STA are not comparable situations.

Open seats?? Not in the school my son attends. There were many Catholics turned away, and non-Catholics who took their spots. Oh the horror!!

And please, the idea that the Episcopal religion is "Catholic Light" is offensive to most Catholics. There aren't variants of the Catholic religion. There is just one and its the only Church we believe in. Just listen to the Nicene Creed at Mass or Google it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash people, not everyone goes to Catholic school solely for the religion. Lots of people go for reasons the PP mentioned - it's a good school, teaches good values, kids get a good education, nice community, in the neighborhood, etc. The fact that it is catholic is one (albeit large) aspect of the school, but it does not completely define the entire school. Thankfully schools are well-rounded and people choose to attend them for various reasons. Even some non-catholics attend catholic schools (oh, the horror). This may come as a shocker to you, but Catholic school kids don't have religion all day (or even every day), they take other classes too, and they don't carry bibles everywhere they go either. With your ignorant theory, all Sidwell kids must all be Quakers, and Cathedral/STA kids must all be Episcopal (light Catholics) - if not then they must be "hitch-hiking along". Give me a break!

The Catholic religion is not just one aspect of Catholic schools. It is THE central reason they were founded and why they exist. Sine qua non.

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

Sidwell and Cathedral/STA are not comparable situations.

And please, the idea that the Episcopal religion is "Catholic Light" is offensive to most Catholics. There aren't variants of the Catholic religion. There is just one and its the only Church we believe in. Just listen to the Nicene Creed at Mass or Google it.

Open seats?? Not in the school my son attends. There were many Catholics turned away, and non-Catholics who took their spots. Oh the horror!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash people, not everyone goes to Catholic school solely for the religion. Lots of people go for reasons the PP mentioned - it's a good school, teaches good values, kids get a good education, nice community, in the neighborhood, etc. The fact that it is catholic is one (albeit large) aspect of the school, but it does not completely define the entire school. Thankfully schools are well-rounded and people choose to attend them for various reasons. Even some non-catholics attend catholic schools (oh, the horror). This may come as a shocker to you, but Catholic school kids don't have religion all day (or even every day), they take other classes too, and they don't carry bibles everywhere they go either. With your ignorant theory, all Sidwell kids must all be Quakers, and Cathedral/STA kids must all be Episcopal (light Catholics) - if not then they must be "hitch-hiking along". Give me a break!

The Catholic religion is not just one aspect of Catholic schools. It is THE central reason they were founded and why they exist. Sine qua non.

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

Sidwell and Cathedral/STA are not comparable situations.

And please, the idea that the Episcopal religion is "Catholic Light" is offensive to most Catholics. There aren't variants of the Catholic religion. There is just one and its the only Church we believe in. Just listen to the Nicene Creed at Mass or Google it.

Open seats?? Not in the school my son attends. There were many Catholics turned away, and non-Catholics who took their spots. Oh the horror!!

f there were academically -qualified Catholics and they could afford the tuition, your son would almost certainly not be there. Unless he plays football or something the school needs people with special talents for.

The schools are a little nervous about bringing kids in from middle schools they are not familiar with. Very frequently there are problems that prevent the child from going to school where they normally would.

The purpose of the school is to educate Catholics, to propagate the Faith and to build the Catholic community. Without the Catholic religion, there is no reason for the school to exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash people, not everyone goes to Catholic school solely for the religion. Lots of people go for reasons the PP mentioned - it's a good school, teaches good values, kids get a good education, nice community, in the neighborhood, etc. The fact that it is catholic is one (albeit large) aspect of the school, but it does not completely define the entire school. Thankfully schools are well-rounded and people choose to attend them for various reasons. Even some non-catholics attend catholic schools (oh, the horror). This may come as a shocker to you, but Catholic school kids don't have religion all day (or even every day), they take other classes too, and they don't carry bibles everywhere they go either. With your ignorant theory, all Sidwell kids must all be Quakers, and Cathedral/STA kids must all be Episcopal (light Catholics) - if not then they must be "hitch-hiking along". Give me a break!

The Catholic religion is not just one aspect of Catholic schools. It is THE central reason they were founded and why they exist. Sine qua non.

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

Sidwell and Cathedral/STA are not comparable situations.

And please, the idea that the Episcopal religion is "Catholic Light" is offensive to most Catholics. There aren't variants of the Catholic religion. There is just one and its the only Church we believe in. Just listen to the Nicene Creed at Mass or Google it.

Open seats?? Not in the school my son attends. There were many Catholics turned away, and non-Catholics who took their spots. Oh the horror!!

f there were academically -qualified Catholics and they could afford the tuition, your son would almost certainly not be there. Unless he plays football or something the school needs people with special talents for.

The schools are a little nervous about bringing kids in from middle schools they are not familiar with. Very frequently there are problems that prevent the child from going to school where they normally would.

The purpose of the school is to educate Catholics, to propagate the Faith and to build the Catholic community. Without the Catholic religion, there is no reason for the school to exist.

I remember you from another thread. And you are SO wrong. My son is smart, but not an athlete. Just a bright, well mannered nonCatholic who scored high on the entrance exam. Sorry, but we do bump some of those mediocre Catholic students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash people, not everyone goes to Catholic school solely for the religion. Lots of people go for reasons the PP mentioned - it's a good school, teaches good values, kids get a good education, nice community, in the neighborhood, etc. The fact that it is catholic is one (albeit large) aspect of the school, but it does not completely define the entire school. Thankfully schools are well-rounded and people choose to attend them for various reasons. Even some non-catholics attend catholic schools (oh, the horror). This may come as a shocker to you, but Catholic school kids don't have religion all day (or even every day), they take other classes too, and they don't carry bibles everywhere they go either. With your ignorant theory, all Sidwell kids must all be Quakers, and Cathedral/STA kids must all be Episcopal (light Catholics) - if not then they must be "hitch-hiking along". Give me a break!

The Catholic religion is not just one aspect of Catholic schools. It is THE central reason they were founded and why they exist. Sine qua non.

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

Sidwell and Cathedral/STA are not comparable situations.

And please, the idea that the Episcopal religion is "Catholic Light" is offensive to most Catholics. There aren't variants of the Catholic religion. There is just one and its the only Church we believe in. Just listen to the Nicene Creed at Mass or Google it.

Open seats?? Not in the school my son attends. There were many Catholics turned away, and non-Catholics who took their spots. Oh the horror!!

f there were academically -qualified Catholics and they could afford the tuition, your son would almost certainly not be there. Unless he plays football or something the school needs people with special talents for.

The schools are a little nervous about bringing kids in from middle schools they are not familiar with. Very frequently there are problems that prevent the child from going to school where they normally would.

The purpose of the school is to educate Catholics, to propagate the Faith and to build the Catholic community. Without the Catholic religion, there is no reason for the school to exist.

I remember you from another thread. And you are SO wrong. My son is smart, but not an athlete. Just a bright, well mannered nonCatholic who scored high on the entrance exam. Sorry, but we do bump some of those mediocre Catholic students.

But you really don't "get" the place.

Almost everyone there is there because it's a Catholic school. They want their religion and culture re-inforced.

You are there in spite of it being a Catholic school.

Huge difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

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Open seats?? Not in the school my son attends. There were many Catholics turned away, and non-Catholics who took their spots. Oh the horror!!

f there were academically -qualified Catholics and they could afford the tuition, your son would almost certainly not be there. Unless he plays football or something the school needs people with special talents for.

The schools are a little nervous about bringing kids in from middle schools they are not familiar with. Very frequently there are problems that prevent the child from going to school where they normally would.

The purpose of the school is to educate Catholics, to propagate the Faith and to build the Catholic community. Without the Catholic religion, there is no reason for the school to exist.

With all due respect, this is a very limited view of the values of our Church and our schools. Of course the mission is to propogate the Faith but it's not solely for the benefit of those of us already in the Church. By design, the Church and its schools are focused on the larger society and the world -- both in terms of evangelization and raising young people who will making the world a better place. Children who are already Catholic should receive an excellent foundation in their faith, so they can carry on the mission of the Church, but outreach and service to larger society are core values as well.

This should all go without saying, but to make it very clear, the U.S. Catholic bishops state that non-Catholics' attendance at Catholic schools is "a proud part of the history of Catholic schools in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. We must continue this outreach in the new millennium." Renewing Our Commitment to Catholic Elementary and Secondary Schools in the Third Millennium http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/how-we-teach/catholic-education/upload/renewing-our-commitment-2005.pdf

In addition, the U.S. Catholic Bishops' Committee on Catholic Education lists one of its six "Key Mission Responsibilities" as "bringing to Catholic education the perspectives and concerns of other cultures." http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/how-we-teach/catholic-education/

Here's an article that focuses on the positives for both Catholics and non-Catholics: http://catholicherald.com/stories/Focused-on-the-heartWhy-non-Catholics-select-Catholic-schools,28070

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Some are taking advantage of them for your own purposes. They are, in fact, hitch-hiking on an institution that was never really meant to serve them. The schools do this, not because they are at all interested in diversity, but rather they have some open seats and can use the tuition revenue. And as long as they represent a small minority of the student population, no one is going to notice a few non-Catholics.

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Open seats?? Not in the school my son attends. There were many Catholics turned away, and non-Catholics who took their spots. Oh the horror!!

f there were academically -qualified Catholics and they could afford the tuition, your son would almost certainly not be there. Unless he plays football or something the school needs people with special talents for.

The schools are a little nervous about bringing kids in from middle schools they are not familiar with. Very frequently there are problems that prevent the child from going to school where they normally would.

The purpose of the school is to educate Catholics, to propagate the Faith and to build the Catholic community. Without the Catholic religion, there is no reason for the school to exist.

With all due respect, this is a very limited view of the values of our Church and our schools. Of course the mission is to propogate the Faith but it's not solely for the benefit of those of us already in the Church. By design, the Church and its schools are focused on the larger society and the world -- both in terms of evangelization and raising young people who will making the world a better place. Children who are already Catholic should receive an excellent foundation in their faith, so they can carry on the mission of the Church, but outreach and service to larger society are core values as well.

This should all go without saying, but to make it very clear, the U.S. Catholic bishops state that non-Catholics' attendance at Catholic schools is "a proud part of the history of Catholic schools in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. We must continue this outreach in the new millennium." Renewing Our Commitment to Catholic Elementary and Secondary Schools in the Third Millennium http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/how-we-teach/catholic-education/upload/renewing-our-commitment-2005.pdf

In addition, the U.S. Catholic Bishops' Committee on Catholic Education lists one of its six "Key Mission Responsibilities" as "bringing to Catholic education the perspectives and concerns of other cultures." http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/how-we-teach/catholic-education/

Here's an article that focuses on the positives for both Catholics and non-Catholics: http://catholicherald.com/stories/Focused-on-the-heartWhy-non-Catholics-select-Catholic-schools,28070

These non-Catholics at these Catholic schools are hardly from a different "culture". As far as I can tell these are "shoppers" who have found a good deal and really don't expect to contribute to any cultural broadening of the majority Catholics.

I can see why the O'Connell people feel the way to do. They have a lot of seats to fill.

[Anonymous]

Most people making attending Catholic schools are not deal shopping. That is very unfair to ascribe that motive to all non-Catholics. They are making a big choice and commitment in terms of finances, family involvement, etc. They are paying a lot in spite of good public schools or in the case of independent Catholics, quite high tuition.

You should be ashamed of yourself if you are indeed Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Mission of the ADW schools: Our mission is to educate all students in a Christian environment, welcoming children of all faiths. We promote the value of the individual while encouraging mutual respect through our Catholic faith and traditions.

For some reason you are hell bent on sending an unwelcoming message from Catholic schools to those on this website, not sure why. But your view is yours alone.