What elementary school on The Hill?

[Anonymous]

The Jefferson isn't a neighborhood school canard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Red herring. If Jefferson was approaching anything close to being on par with Deal, you wouldn't hear Hill parents bitching about it being in a different meighborhood.

But how do you get it on par with Deal? Note in the case of Hardy, IB parents are being sold to try it (rather than try to get to Deal OOB, or to charters) based on it being the neighborhood school. If Jefferson got to be on par with say, where Hardy was a year or two ago, it would still have geography against it.

Forget the geography excuse. Children used to commute from across the city to attend Jefferson when it was one of the top schools. I had friends who lived in Shepherd Park that went to Jefferson. If you build it, they will come.

How long ago was that??

[Anonymous]

10-20 years ago. There's a link earlier in this thread to an article from 1997 about how Jefferson was drawing kids from all over the city. This was before computerized, centralized, lotteries, so the principal had a lot of discretion in who she accepted from OOB.

I only have 2 data points from that time frame: a young colleague of mine who attended Jefferson at the very start of the 21st century and wound up doing very well in high school, college, law school, and career-wise...and a retired teacher from there I met recently and who was spectacularly bad at the subject she used to teach (imagine a math teacher who could not interpret statistics or make change...that's not the subject, but you get the idea).

[Anonymous]

Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Red herring. If Jefferson was approaching anything close to being on par with Deal, you wouldn't hear Hill parents bitching about it being in a different meighborhood.

But how do you get it on par with Deal? Note in the case of Hardy, IB parents are being sold to try it (rather than try to get to Deal OOB, or to charters) based on it being the neighborhood school. If Jefferson got to be on par with say, where Hardy was a year or two ago, it would still have geography against it.

Forget the geography excuse. Children used to commute from across the city to attend Jefferson when it was one of the top schools. I had friends who lived in Shepherd Park that went to Jefferson. If you build it, they will come.

How long ago was that??

This was in the early 90s. I went to private school, but I can think of at least 3 of my high school friends that went to Jefferson for middle. I have a younger colleague who attended Jefferson in the early 00s so it was still a school of choice as late then. He said the IB kids were kept in one wing of the school while the application kids had the rest of the school. Jefferson was almost entirely black students then so that's why I imagine such segregation did not make any waves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

Irrefutable logic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

Irrefutable logic?

Dated by a few years but I bet it's still applicable. Total students at Jefferson from the Hill? "Few students". Total students at Jefferson from "Near Southeast/Navy Yard"? "Few students"

http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/433

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

Irrefutable logic?

Dated by a few years but I bet it's still applicable. Total students at Jefferson from the Hill? "Few students". Total students at Jefferson from "Near Southeast/Navy Yard"? "Few students"

http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/433

Respectfully, no. Nothing about schools on the Hill is the same as it was a few years ago. Brent is now waitlisting siblings. LT is IB only. Premise summarily rejected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

Irrefutable logic?

Dated by a few years but I bet it's still applicable. Total students at Jefferson from the Hill? "Few students". Total students at Jefferson from "Near Southeast/Navy Yard"? "Few students"

http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/433

Respectfully, no. Nothing about schools on the Hill is the same as it was a few years ago. Brent is now waitlisting siblings. LT is IB only. Premise summarily rejected.

Sorry -- you're living in a fantasy world if you think Jefferson is currently attracting Hill students, irrespective of assigned feeder. IF any students enroll through existing feeder it's not the IB kids. Sorry -- you're just wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

Irrefutable logic?

Dated by a few years but I bet it's still applicable. Total students at Jefferson from the Hill? "Few students". Total students at Jefferson from "Near Southeast/Navy Yard"? "Few students"

http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/433

Respectfully, no. Nothing about schools on the Hill is the same as it was a few years ago. Brent is now waitlisting siblings. LT is IB only. Premise summarily rejected.

Sorry -- you're living in a fantasy world if you think Jefferson is currently attracting Hill students, irrespective of assigned feeder. IF any students enroll through existing feeder it's not the IB kids. Sorry -- you're just wrong.

No one is going to Jefferson from Tyler traditional? I find that hard to believe, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

Irrefutable logic?

Dated by a few years but I bet it's still applicable. Total students at Jefferson from the Hill? "Few students". Total students at Jefferson from "Near Southeast/Navy Yard"? "Few students"

http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/433

Respectfully, no. Nothing about schools on the Hill is the same as it was a few years ago. Brent is now waitlisting siblings. LT is IB only. Premise summarily rejected.

Please tell us, Allmighty Oracle of the Hill, the number of kids living IB for Brent who have enrolled at the mew and improved "Jefferson Academy" over the past three years. Then do the same for Maury, Watkins, Tyler and Ludlow-Taylor. It would also be helpful to know the number of SWS kids who have gone onto Jefferson during this same three-year period. You can earn bonus points for data from JO Wilson, Payne and Miner even though so,e may not consoder those to be Hill schools. Looking forward to your response. (BTW you can mine some fairly recent data from the DME website).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is neither a) an elementary school or b) on the Hill. Maybe this belongs in another thread

But isn't it germane because the articulation of feeder patterns directly effects elementary schools?

If Hill elementary schools feed into it then by definition it is a Hill school. If you disagree with the logic then take it up with the geniuses at DCPS who designed the feeder patttern.

Irrefutable logic?

Dated by a few years but I bet it's still applicable. Total students at Jefferson from the Hill? "Few students". Total students at Jefferson from "Near Southeast/Navy Yard"? "Few students"

http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/433

Respectfully, no. Nothing about schools on the Hill is the same as it was a few years ago. Brent is now waitlisting siblings. LT is IB only. Premise summarily rejected.

Sorry -- you're living in a fantasy world if you think Jefferson is currently attracting Hill students, irrespective of assigned feeder. IF any students enroll through existing feeder it's not the IB kids. Sorry -- you're just wrong.

No one is going to Jefferson from Tyler traditional? I find that hard to believe, PP.

My guess is PP doesn't think Potomac Gardens is part of the Hill, even though it's next to the old Frager's building -- which is about as "Hill" as you can get.

[Anonymous]

Jefferson won't become a "desirable" school for parents on the hill until there are more white kids going there.