Okay I will try to answer some of it now but more later when I have more time....Apostasy needs to be considered in Islam in two different ways: Scholarly opinion and what the Quran says. As you know I reject many scholarly opinions, especially from scholars in Muslim countries. In the Quran it clearly says there is to be no compulsion in religion. Thus, one can not be forced to convert to Islam nor can one remain a Muslim if one does not believe in it anymore. There is a punishment associated with apostasy among many, many scholars. Apostasy can be punishable by death but this was never mentioned in the Quran itself. The Quran does not describe death as punishment for apostasy in this life. Instead, if apostasy only involves leaving Islam, then the person incurs the wrath of God and God will not keep guiding him anymore. |
Ok, there's this, which doesn't seem to require death, although the afterlife will be bad: "Lo! those who disbelieve after their (profession of) belief, and afterward grow violent in disbelief: their repentance will not be accepted. And such are those who are astray. Lo! those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief, the (whole) earth full of gold would not be accepted from such an one if it were offered as a ransom (for his soul). Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers." (Qur'an 3:90-91)
But there's also this: "They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them" (Qur'an 4:89) And this: But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know. And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief-- surely their oaths are nothing-- so that they may desist. (Qur'an 9:11-12) I realize it's a bit unfair to ask you to interpret these. |
I’m the PP who asked the wedding question – I think it’s totally fine to have a single ceremony and reception without music/dancing. People watch the ceremony, eat dinner, mingle with others, take a 1000 pics and go home. But I see no reason to have a ceremony/reception thrown by the bride, followed by a outdoor bbq type of party the next day, following by a reception thrown by the groom’s family the next day, if all of them are going to be the exact same. I realize that really conservative families don’t dance, but is there a prohibition on music? Is there a prohibition on actually dancing or does it extend to watching dancing? I’ve been to middle eastern weddings, where there are hired performers who do a little show, which is lively; I’ve even been to conservative Christian weddings where there is little dancing but then they’ll have a section of a marching band from whatever school the bride/groom went to come through and play some live music. It’s just stuff to keep things fun And are conservative families really against all casual contact – I feel like a touch football/soccer game at an outdoor party is not so out of line. They did nothing like this and if they had, I am positive it would be a ‘brothers only’ type of event. Why do a wedding weekend if it’s just three days of talking? |
Maybe Aisha was a mature 9? Yes, 12/13 was the norm in those days, soon after their first period, but Aisha was 6 or 7 when actually married and then 9 when she moved in with her 53 year old husband (which was ANCIENT at that time). not only do I know that in the US it was normal for a 12/13yr old to marry, but I EVEN know that in other parts of the world it is still the norm, but I'm not so sure where marrying and haivng sex with 9yr olds is the norm. |
Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints don't have a problem with it. |
This made me laugh. I think this might just be a South Asian (or maybe South Asian, no alcohol) thing. I've been to multiple conservative Hindu weddings like this, but they've all been in India. I haven't seen one like that here. They just want everyone who attended to be captured on film. But the end result is, yeah, it's just a photography session, and it's boooring. |
Let me amend that. It's boring if you don't know too many people. If you know a lot of people or are part of the family, it's a blast. You take your pictures and then hang out with everyone. |
OP here: I'm not an Islamic historian or any expert at all on the Quran. My knowledge is very limited. So I hope that my interpretations are correct and I hope these answer your questions. If they don't, however, feel free to ask more questions! |
I've read that in warmer climates some girls reach puberty sooner. My own mother was 8 or 9 when she reached puberty. |
OP here: To the PP who stated that Mary was 12 or 13 when she gave birth to Jesus...I don't know if you're Muslim or not, but I suspect you are. I don't think it's wise to defend or justify Islam by pointing a finger at other people's religion. In my opinion it's not as good as other means of defense. Pointing fingers or comparing one person's religion to another immediately puts people on the defense and that's not our objective. Our objective is to explain our own faith using historical context or reasoning. In bedouin times it was not unusual at all to be married at age 9. Many think Aisha got engaged at age 7 or so but married at age 9 or 10. For climatic and geographical reasons, girls did mature faster than they do now. And even boys were married early too. If Muhammad was a pedophile, then he could have had not just one child bride, but several, up to four. But instead, he chose as his first wife, his most beloved wife, Khadija, who was much older than him. Khadija was a widow who was considered an old lady in her time. And as I mentioned in an earlier post, my own grandmother was married at 14 to an older man. |
yes |
spandex top and spandex leggings. |
it does make me feel uncomfortable. prophet muhammad is not returning. we believe that jesus was taken up to heaven (not resurrected) and that he will return as the messiah. |
namaste to you do, but that's actually a greeting for hindus. one can say, "assalamu alaikum" which means "peace be on to you." i don't live in your area, but friday noon is the day of congregational prayers in Islam. just like sunday mass for catholics. |
Most Muslims are Sunni and this is a Shitte (minority) practice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah |