Shocked: Our bare-bones monthly cost of living is 5K after taxes! What's yours?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To the pps with the large target bills[list], you might want to try amazon subscribe and save for those items. While I don't know how much the direct saving is on each product, the benefits are: predictable monthly cost, and no splurge spending at target (ie on the nonessentials)


Agree- we save actually a lot when you figure no 6% sales tax at target (MD resident here) on purpose face wash that is cheaper at Amazon anyways. We also subscribe to dog food.
Anonymous
Our gross combined annual income is $167,000.
We each contribute 4% to 401(k). I carry our med insurance for the fam (2 31 yr old adults, 2 kids). I also pay for supplemental disability insurance coverage.

Take home pay is right at $8,800 per month combined.

Mortgage plus pmi plus taxes = $1655 per month
House is 1400 sq ft in hyattsville/college park area (pg)
Purchased in 2003 with 0% down, had a grant for closing costs

Nanny = $1,400 per month (22 hours per week)

Groceries= $1,000 per month (organic, local when possible, all that jazz; we are vegetarian primarily but we eat some fish)

Cell= $110 per month

Internet plus cable = $60 per month

Travel budget = $500 per month

Clothes budget = $350 per month

And so on and so on....

Long story short, we ran all the numbers and scenarios. We know that our bare bones budget is less than a third of our normal operating budget. We could get by on $3,700 if we let our nanny go, switched to conventional produce, dropped all the extras like travel, new clothes, etc, but it would be painful.

We do not have student loan debts. Our cars are older (2003 and 2007) and they are paid off. We get metro subsidies from our employers. Spouse telecommutes 4 days out of five. I telecommute 2 days per week.
Anonymous
Pp here. Wanted to add that we consider life insurance part of our bare bones budget. We would not allow it to lapse no matter the compromise involved. My premium is $75 per month and spouse's is $40.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FP is full of shit.


I'll tell you why:
-no clothing costs & no shoes
-no transportation costs, so I suppose they can walk EVERYWHERE they need to be, so I'm not sure how they do that living in a "low rent" area. And wouldn't one go through a lot of shoes walking to work and every where else one needed to be?
-no internet (maybe she steals wifi from her neighbors, which is quite likely)
-no medical expenses, including asprin
-no feminine products
-no diapers
-no TV or entertainment
-fresh produce? YEA right on $35/wk because I AM a frugal from scratch shopper and spend $75/week on groceries for a family of 4. I serve up 74 meals for the 4 of us at just over a dollar each. On this alone, the poster is full of a load of shit, unless she is eating all empty carbs.
-no haircuts
-no toilet paper or other household supplies
-no emergencies


Not FP, and not excusing her but, if I may play devil's advocate...

Toilet paper, laundry detergent and other soaps don't have to be a monthly purchase. I buy $25 worth of TP at Costco and it last 6 months. $25 over six months becomes negligible in the big budget.

I dont recall how big FP's family is, but when I was living with my parents and in charge of all of the grocery shopping, I was able to get everything for $50 a week. Granted my parents would eat lunches out most days, but it isn't impossible.
Anonymous
THis is a 5 year old thread.
Anonymous
College student here!

My budget seems high to me, but I don't have a DH and kids so its actually manageable!

$1830


$600 rent
$300 groceries (couponing)
$300 school expenses (amount not covered by scholarships)
$50 credit card
$80 gas
$200 savings (for things like car issues, and other emergencies)
Misc $300 :drinks, dinners out, occasional lunch, impulse buys (25 dollar lamp at target) occasional starbucks drink

I make more than the budget, but I usually let the extra pile up in my checking acct or I move it over to savings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:THis is a 5 year old thread.


wow, you came here to say that....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: Hm let me see...

$1300 - rent
$400 - car payment
$90 - utilities
$300 - health insurance
$150 - groceries

That's all for us. Family of 3 with #2 on the way.

We visit my country every other year, DH's country every other year and we take vacation in the US every year. The US vacations are usually very cheap because DH travels for work so among nights free in hotels, rental car points and flying miles we spend almost nothing.


no gas? no phone? $150 a month in groceries for 2 adults? something is not adding up here
Anonymous
Interestingly, I had more financial freedom when I was making a bit under 60k a year and living on my own in DC and renting than now, when we make just about 250k but have children and bought a decent but not great house in decent school district.



Me in 2006:

rent 1200 (and no repairs)
transportation-- free (subsidized metro, no car)
health insurance 100/mo
groceries, cvs, etc 250 mo (just me)
gym 75/mo
utilities plus cell phone 150/mo
travel 75 mo (spread out, 2 trips a year at about 350/ticket, mostly to go see family)

TOTAL= about 1850/mo. My take home, after maxing retirement, was 2550/month, leaving 700 month for going out, saving, clothes, haircut, etc.

Me in 2016:
mortgage PITI 3800
health insurance 400
transportation 450 (gas and insurance and car payments
groceries 600 (easily!)
gym 150 (2 adults)
utilities 450
cell phone 120 (2 smart phones)
travel 500/mo (2 trips, family of 4)
childcare 2400/mo
college savings 1600/.month (not even projected to cover 4 years for 2 kids)

total: just about 10.5. take home after after retirement, 11.5k; 1k a month 'extra' for a family of four is less than 700$ for a single person (not including inflation adjustment)
Anonymous
I have more empathy/sympathy for Donald Trump! Do you not understsnd that many, many families make it on less the, $2k a month. You are such a jerk, OP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We need to lower the minimum wage so that low level workers like nannys, plumbers, repair men , lawn etc. cost less for the middle class. The tradesmen unions have been raping this area for years.


You are an idiot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have more empathy/sympathy for Donald Trump! Do you not understsnd that many, many families make it on less the, $2k a month. You are such a jerk, OP.


THe OP is long gone. THis thread is 5 years old.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just redid our budget, since we just refinanced. After $300/family health insurance premium, 5% retirement savings (matched), and $150/"buy-back" for years in military service retirement plan:

$3000 mortgage/ins./taxes/escrow
$740 car payment (first new car in 8 years)
$150 car insurance
$120 basic church donation
$400 NOVEC (average)
$175 Verizon (cable/internet/phone)
$70 cell phones
$30 trash
$30 life insurance
$200 braces for two kids
$30 media (Netflix, newspapers)
$300 kids' sports

$5400 for automatically withdrawn monthly bills

Food, diapers, household, clothes, schoolbooks (we homeschool)...I don't like to think about it.

Honestly, I think I am starting to get anxiety attacks about the cost of living.



Your verizon cable-internet-phone is high. Unless in an apt or condo building you usually have a choice of 2 providers. Why have a phone? Obviously you have cells. regular landline is only 25/month. Do you even need that? Check out new customer deals on comcast or cox. New customer internet/cable is usually cheap. Netflix prices are increasing. If you have amazon prime dump netflix.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: Hm let me see...

$1300 - rent
$400 - car payment
$90 - utilities
$300 - health insurance
$150 - groceries

That's all for us. Family of 3 with #2 on the way.

We visit my country every other year, DH's country every other year and we take vacation in the US every year. The US vacations are usually very cheap because DH travels for work so among nights free in hotels, rental car points and flying miles we spend almost nothing.


No Internet, no TV, no phone, no car insurance, no co-pays, no clothing, no toiletries, no medicine, no diapers, no wipes, no gas, no car repairs, and you are feeding everyone on $5/day? OK. Sure.
Anonymous
Well our family of four, which includes two teenagers, spends over $1,000 a month on groceries, not even counting eating out.

Real estate taxes on our house are $900 a month.

Then utilities, insurance (house, life, health, car).....

Even without a mortgage or childcare, we easily spend $6,000 a month.
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